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To people complaining about SM Madara being in the same tier as BSM Naruto and BM Minato.
How on earth are BSM Naruto and BM Minato more deadlier thann RT Madara???
the same guy who foddered all the bijuu including BSM Naruto at the same time,
foddered Tobirama and Sasuke with absolute zero efforts.
took down hashirama without much efforts as well,

yeah, despite of what the OP said, they are never ever ever in the same tier, madara is atleast a tier above atleast
and can wreck either of the two

 

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There is some flaws in this list, but every tier list is subjective. I also think seperating Kaguya, Hagaromo and Madara was pointless. Same for Sasuke and Naruto, seperating them is pointless, both are equally dangerous, Sasuke actually is more dangerous in thesense that he's IC. Hes far more straightforward than Naruto.
 

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The most important thing is that Karin has been placed correctely.=D
 

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There is some flaws in this list, but every tier list is subjective. I also think seperating Kaguya, Hagaromo and Madara was pointless. Same for Sasuke and Naruto, seperating them is pointless, both are equally dangerous, Sasuke actually is more dangerous in thesense that he's IC. Hes far more straightforward than Naruto.

1. Hagromo confirmed that she was stronger than himself and at the very least was stronger than Rikudo Uchiha Madara [Juubi's Jinchuriki (Incomplete) - Single Rinnegan]. Who the Rikudo considered weaker than himself as well.

If anything, Shin Madara is the only one that could be in the same tier as her.

2. Sasuke couldn't really be considered more dangerous. He can barely fight Kaguya on his own, noting that nothing he does works. While Naruto was taking her on alone for a decent amount of time without losing ground, even go as far as to blitz her recently.​
 

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ET-less Orochimaru, Chiyo, Pakura and Mei each should be moved 1 tier up. Yamato and Kurenai should be put in tier 15. Shizune and Anko in like tier 16/17.
 

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As members have pointed out, there are flaws in your tier. Also, I wouldn't think there is a huge gap between Hagoromo, Shinju Madara and Kaguya. And also Madara's Jinchuuriki versions, either. Good effort.
 

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The worse list i've ever seen even coming from you sir DA. I don't even know where to start to explain how much wrong it is
 

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There's a decent amount of flaws in your list. The flaws have already been listed by other members.
 

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Everything from tier 4 - last is bad in my opinion.
 

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How on earth are BSM Naruto and BM Minato more deadlier thann RT Madara???
the same guy who foddered all the bijuu including BSM Naruto at the same time,
foddered Tobirama and Sasuke with absolute zero efforts.
took down hashirama without much efforts as well,

yeah, despite of what the OP said, they are never ever ever in the same tier, madara is atleast a tier above atleast
and can wreck either of the two


-He only beat the Bijuu because he had an anti Bijuu weapon. If he tried those same moves on anyone who doesn't rely on the Bijuu's power, then it wouldn't work. That's why he said match ups are important. Madara beat all 9 Bijuu because of match up, not because he's stronger than all 9 Bijuu, cause he isn't.

-Beating Tobirama and a Sasuke who didn't use Susanoo isn't a feat that'd put him far above the likes of BSM Naruto and BM Minato.

-Lol. RT Madara never beat a full power Hashirama. Edo Madara fought and wore down Hashirama, got the black rods into his back and only after Madara was revived was he able to put him down. Beating a weakened Hashirama isn't a feat either.
 

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Kakuzu > 3rd raikage lol
 

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your list looks great from what I've read.

my only qualms are 8th Gate Gai and double Kamui Obito/Kakashi should be tier 4..but hey, it's your list
 

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A notable flaw is your assessment of "Healthy" Itachi. The MS made him more powerful but also damages his eyes and body. It's impossible for him to have perfect eyes and body along with the MS, except for Edo Itachi whom had perks from being a zombie. As such, Healthy Itachi in the way that you present is fanfiction.
 
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The mere fact that you think Choji stomps 7G Gai is just beyond me. Lol



OT: It's your opinion but this list has too many flaws.

- Gai(with the 8gates) below BM Naruto and some others?
- Why is Sasuke not in tier 2? Just because they are stronger than him doesn't mean he isn't in the same tier.
- Minato above Madara that's capable of using Limbo?
- War arc Kankuro above Akatsuki Sasuke, Neji and Lee?
- 3rd exam Naruto above SRA Lee? Lol I'll love an explanation. Someone who couldn't land a single hit on base Kimmi in his KN0 while SRA Lee forced him to use his KKG.

Did you read the big bold statement listed before the Tiers? It literally answers everything in your post.​
 

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-He only beat the Bijuu because he had an anti Bijuu weapon. If he tried those same moves on anyone who doesn't rely on the Bijuu's power, then it wouldn't work. That's why he said match ups are important. Madara beat all 9 Bijuu because of match up, not because he's stronger than all 9 Bijuu, cause he isn't.
Him possessing the anti bijuu makes him deadly and his feat of beating all the bijuu where naruto was included, makes him much much stronger, than bsm naruto,
they never belong in the same tier, heck naruto isnt even a tier above SM Hashirama,
-Beating Tobirama and a Sasuke who didn't use Susanoo isn't a feat that'd put him far above the likes of BSM Naruto and BM Minato.
He foddered Sasuke, and even if he used susanoo, madara would have wreckked him, so i dont see how that doesnt count, and him reacting to Tobirama is also very impressive,
and he already wrecked BSM naruto alongside alll the bijuu, that does put him above the likes of naruto and minato

-Lol. RT Madara never beat a full power Hashirama. Edo Madara fought and wore down Hashirama, got the black rods into his back and only after Madara was revived was he able to put him down. Beating a weakened Hashirama isn't a feat either.
He is still stronger than Hashirama,
he has all of his moves here, alongside rinnegan, susanoo and the mazo
and the fact that the OP has BSM Naruto and BM Minato with RT madara
but SM Hashirama being a whole tier below them, is just wrong
 

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There were some flaws but it's an okay list.

I would also have to agree with RT Madara being above BSM Naruto.​
 

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um, sure NAruto only beats gaara with bunta. That still means Naruto > Sasuke as bunta is naruto's summon and part of his arsenal.

Not only that, but even if Naruto didn't have bunta, he still crushed a more advanced form of gaara that Sasuke couldn't beat. So anyway you look at it, Naruto > Sasuke.


again, sure Sasuke is superior in CQC if ninjutsu is restricted. Why does that mean he beats Naruto? Naruto uses tajuu kagebunshin and sasuke gets his arse kicked in CQC, he has to run away and waste chakra on a widespread katon and hope naruto's clones don't try to dodge. Naruto doesn't need rasengan to counter sasuke's chidori, he just makes a bunch of shadow clones and sasuke wastes it on a clone and gets countered right after.

Then there's Naruto's KN0 which instantly heals even a CS1 chidori wound, and would give naruto the speed and strength to wreck sasuke.

Stop that A>B>C logic never worked in naruto in that is what your hole opinion is about Sasuke has owned naruto with bushin multiple times they give him no problem here katon for an aireal would take him down easy also his kunai skills are to high. curse mark sasuke in the black > KN0 naruto chidori to the skull he isnt healing from that also it was CE3 naruto he never used KN0 meaning he doesnt have that in this list

Sasuke mauls him

1. Hagromo confirmed that she was stronger than himself and at the very least was stronger than Rikudo Uchiha Madara [Juubi's Jinchuriki (Incomplete) - Single Rinnegan]. Who the Rikudo considered weaker than himself as well.​


Just because someone is stronger than you doesnt mean your not in the same tier Hagoromo prime > Naruto & Sasuke who is more than a match for Kaguya so they should be in the same tier rank



2. Sasuke couldn't really be considered more dangerous. He can barely fight Kaguya on his own, noting that nothing he does works. While Naruto was taking her on alone for a decent amount of time without losing ground, even go as far as to blitz her recently.

irrelevant as JJ double rinnegan madara neg diff that naruto just by looking at the moon while Sasuke can defend against it your logic falls apart on itself right there this is how you should have looked at

Sasuke > Hokages
Nardo > Hokages
Sasuke > 1 rinnegan juubi Madz
Naruto > 1 rinnegan juubi madz
Sasuke< Double rinne madz jj
Naruto<Double rinne madz jj

ETC same with Kaguya and Hagoromo there is no one Naruto can defeat that Sasuke cannot thus they should be put on the same tier
 

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Him possessing the anti bijuu makes him deadly and his feat of beating all the bijuu where naruto was included, makes him much much stronger, than bsm naruto,
they never belong in the same tier, heck naruto isnt even a tier above SM Hashirama,


Are you even reading? Clearly you aren't otherwise you wouldn't have repeated the same thing I just replied to.

He only beat the Bijuu because he had an anti Bijuu weapon. If he tried those same moves on anyone who doesn't rely on the Bijuu's power, then it wouldn't work. That's why he said match ups are important. Madara beat all 9 Bijuu because of match up, not because he's stronger than all 9 Bijuu, cause he isn't.

Take up Naruto being a tier above Hashirama with OP, not with me, cause I disagree with that as well.

He foddered Sasuke, and even if he used susanoo, madara would have wreckked him, so i dont see how that doesnt count, and him reacting to Tobirama is also very impressive,
Fodderizing a Sasuke who only jumped and used his sword isn't a good feat. What could have happened is irrelevant here as you said fodderizing Sasuke was a good feat, but in reality, it wasn't.

In relation to his placement?

and he already wrecked BSM naruto alongside alll the bijuu, that does put him above the likes of naruto and minato
Once again.

-He only beat the Bijuu because he had an anti Bijuu weapon. If he tried those same moves on anyone who doesn't rely on the Bijuu's power, then it wouldn't work. That's why he said match ups are important. Madara beat all 9 Bijuu because of match up, not because he's stronger than all 9 Bijuu, cause he isn't.


There is literally nothing else to say to this part of your post, its already been answered. You just aren't reading the whole post.

He is still stronger than Hashirama,
he has all of his moves here, alongside rinnegan, susanoo and the mazo

and the fact that the OP has BSM Naruto and BM Minato with RT madara
but SM Hashirama being a whole tier below them, is just wrong

Not the point. The point is you stating he beat Hashirama is false. The rest is stuff you need to take up with OP, but your reasoning for putting Madara far above Naruto is match up based and not strength based. OP has stated that he's going by overall value.
 
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