Darui VS Neji

[Brother Numpsay]

What doesn't rotation counter? Like that could be said to counter anything, it's not invincible.

Im pretty sure he never claim that it is invincible. I'm pretty sure he was talking about all of Dauri's attacks, which he can.

Not necessarilly, Rotation has a weakness.

Neji died because when he was ambushed by giant sticks by the Juubi, he couldn't spin fast enough and has limited spinning with his Rotation. Laser Circus is an attack similar to that, it can constantly fire lasers and has shown to not have a limit on how much Darui can fire, of course until Darui is out of his chakra though.

Darui has shown he has large chakra reserves, so, he can keep firing lasers at Neji and Neji is not going to be able to keep spinning and dodge them all. His Rotation isn't that long. He will eventually get hit by Laser Circus and that will decide the match.

That is not how Neji die look:

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Laser Cirus is not a similar attack has it DOES NOT fire lasers "until Darui feels like stoping." Unless you can proof it. Dauri's cirus was shown to fire more the one shots, at once.

First your wrong about the jutsu and your wrong about his character continuously using it until his opponent is defeated

Dauri is not beating Neji

 

[Draegod]

Don't you think that when you battle someone who has one of the great dōjutsu after figuring out their techs and moves you would inform your kage. Or just pass it around in general.
It's not really a secret what the byakugan can do or what the Hyuga are capable of while using gentle fist. It may have been at one time, but not anymore. Especially not after the Byakugan got into the hands of a "non-hyuga".
I'm sure Ao is formidable with the byakugan and wasn't really too discrete in telling his superiors of it's capabilities. Because when you findout the workings of a rivsl village's great techs, you don't hold back info. Word get's around. People know. Get smart.

Also, you do realize he only has a 27 in the databook, right?
That isn't great.

And yes, Darui did defeat the bro's nearly single handed.
Even if he didn't, he managed to hold his own against two people who have the ability to go at-least to a 6 tails bijuu transformation.


Anyways, you can just deny everything I say and continuing to state the same opinion you expressed before without legitimately trying to persuade me (Which is what debates are really for, persuading. Not bashing the other debater and not having to defend your own POV) or counter my points.

Lmao This is sad!!!

Dauri single handely defeated the bro's?????? What the Fuq did i just read????

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This is ONE brother barely getting serious! Lmao And then you sad he defeated them by himself??? And did you not see plot save his ass??? What are you reading??? Are you new to naruto????


And again, you just dont get it! You know nothing about the hyugas and the byakugan! Just be quiet while you still can, you think (just like the other noobs) that you know the byakugan.

Then you bring up teh Databook as if it matters in the current arc! lmao Then you act as if Dairu has a databook entry! lmao 27 in the databook and he never even displayed his true potential under the age of 18! Yea good call bringing up the databook to compare both characters!


The reason why i havent engaged with any of you is because i avoid noobs! Its not worth my time and it would be too easy! I wait for better opponents when i "debate".

If i were too take you or any other person (dont matter who you are) i would shit on who ever with this match up! No contest! And im not even bragging, Its being real!

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[SonTj]

Exactly!! A lot of members don't get that on here. Zabuza>Darui

ya i know yo check out my new thread "rank these characters" it has zabuza in it lol

 

[SonTj]

Darui wins medium difficulty at max.

explain because darui is 1 of my favorite characters and i still think he looses

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Im pretty sure he never claim that it is invincible. I'm pretty sure he was talking about all of Dauri's attacks, which he can.




That is not how Neji die look:

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Laser Cirus is not a similar attack has it DOES NOT fire lasers "until Darui feels like stoping." Unless you can proof it. Dauri's cirus was shown to fire more the one shots, at once.

First your wrong about the jutsu and your wrong about his character continuously using it until his opponent is defeated

Dauri is not beating Neji

How was I wrong about how he died????? I said Neji couldn't spin fast enough with his Rotation so he couldn't keep up with the sticks. Your scan just proved my point. Bottom left panel, he says he can't spin fast enough.

Did I say he continously used it until his opponent is defeated? No, it's a strategy he could use. Darui is smart and can figure out Neji's Rotation. Darui can fire Lasers, it wasn't shown to just fire "1 at a time" or "one shot" whatever the hell youre talking about. When was it shown that Darui can only use a limited number of lasers at a time? Like what r u even saying. Laser CIRCUS, it's constantly firing lasers.....Neji will not be able to spin fast enough and spin long enough to avoid them

ya i know yo check out my new thread "rank these characters" it has zabuza in it lol

I saw the thread (didn't click on it yet" but I had a feeling Zabuza would be in it

 

[Brother Numpsay]

How was I wrong about how he died????? I said Neji couldn't spin fast enough with his Rotation so he couldn't keep up with the sticks. Your scan just proved my point. Bottom left panel, he says he can't spin fast enough.

I post the scan to show what you were talking about. If you flip to the next page he is still alive. So that is not how he actually died. As you also see the numbers of the wood spikes compare to durai's last is 10 fold more. Not only does he have rotation but can stop them with air palm.

Did I say he continously used it until his opponent is defeated? No, it's a strategy he could use. Darui is smart and can figure out Neji's Rotation. Darui can fire Lasers, it wasn't shown to just fire "1 at a time" or "one shot" whatever the hell youre talking about. When was it shown that Darui can only use a limited number of lasers at a time? Like what r u even saying. Laser CIRCUS, it's constantly firing lasers.....Neji will not be able to spin fast enough and spin long enough to avoid them

Never said it shots only one. I said he can only shoot the laser once at a time. When was Darui ever shown not being limited, is the real question? Please show me scans if I missed out on it. As Neji has shown he can still counter even after rotation is finished:

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Never said it shots only one. I said he can only shoot the laser once at a time. When was Darui ever shown not being limited, is the real question? Please show me scans if I missed out on it. As Neji has shown he can still counter even after rotation is finished:

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[ShaneEyyy]

I post the scan to show what you were talking about. If you flip to the next page he is still alive. So that is not how he actually died. As you also see the numbers of the wood spikes compare to durai's last is 10 fold more. Not only does he have rotation but can stop them with air palm.


Never said it shots only one. I said he can only shoot the laser once at a time. When was Darui ever shown not being limited, is the real question? Please show me scans if I missed out on it. As Neji has shown he can still counter even after rotation is finished:

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Ok it doesn't matter how he died. What matter is that if a technique is too fast or too long to a point he can't spin fast enough or keep spinning, it will get through Rotation.

What are u talking about it shoots ONE AT A TIME?

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It shoots DOZENS at a time. So here you're wrong.

Why wouldn't Darui be able to use Laser Circus until he wants to stop?? How about u show me scans of Darui saying or showing he can only use it a limited amount of time. U just can't assume he can only use it for a little bit because he has shown to use it and stop using it WHEN HE PLEASED.

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

Lmao This is sad!!!

Dauri single handely defeated the bro's?????? What the Fuq did i just read????

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This is ONE brother barely getting serious! Lmao And then you sad he defeated them by himself??? And did you not see plot save his ass??? What are you reading??? Are you new to naruto????


And again, you just dont get it! You know nothing about the hyugas and the byakugan! Just be quiet while you still can, you think (just like the other noobs) that you know the byakugan.

Then you bring up teh Databook as if it matters in the current arc! lmao Then you act as if Dairu has a databook entry! lmao 27 in the databook and he never even displayed his true potential under the age of 18! Yea good call bringing up the databook to compare both characters!


The reason why i havent engaged with any of you is because i avoid noobs! Its not worth my time and it would be too easy! I wait for better opponents when i "debate".

If i were too take you or any other person (dont matter who you are) i would shit on who ever with this match up! No contest! And im not even bragging, Its being real!

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As a wise man once said, never go full retard.

Yousay you don't want to waisted time debating then look at how much you wrote...
Just to prove me wrong or just for kicks, list a few of these amazing facts about the hyuga that apparently only you know.

With the brothers, he did majority of the work.

Also, quit talking down to people, because at this point you aren't even putting up an argument you're just being rude.
The sad part is that 27 is the from databook 3, it was brought up in hope that you would maybe realise that Neji isn't as strong as you may think.
And dying early doesn't prove that he can defeat Darui in anyway shape or form.

Just stop replying, seriously, at this point it s9unds like you are just being ignorant , no offence.

But I'm not sure you know what we are supposed to debate over so I'll let you stop here and end this mess.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Ok it doesn't matter how he died. What matter is that if a technique is too fast or too long to a point he can't spin fast enough or keep spinning, it will get through Rotation.

(Already post scan he can still counter an attack after rotation)

What are u talking about it shoots ONE AT A TIME?

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It shoots DOZENS at a time. So here you're wrong.

You still misread my post never said he didn't.

Why wouldn't Darui be able to use Laser Circus until he wants to stop?? How about u show me scans of Darui saying or showing he can only use it a limited amount of time. U just can't assume he can only use it for a little bit because he has shown to use it and stop using it WHEN HE PLEASED.

Confusing @ underline. You misunderstood my post on the second paragraph then you understood it what I was talking about, then question it after (in your last paragraph) :erm:

Is it you who has the burden of proof. The Manga shows he can only hold the tech to only direct the attack, and not making additional to whatever he already release.

If you get what I am saying :

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[warlee]

Did you just compare darui to juubi? Lmao. He died because he saves naruto. And darui can't fire unlimited attack like juubi so no comparism. Neji still wins

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

Did you just compare darui to juubi? Lmao. He died because he saves naruto. And darui can't fire unlimited attack like juubi so no comparison*. Neji still wins

I was just mentioning that it is actually a feat to be able to hold his own with the bros for as long as he did.
You say he got stomped?
The bro didn't even transform till the other was gone.
He DID do most of the work, so smdh.
Darui had enough chakra to use three of the sage weapons.
One use of a single sage weapon brought ten-ten to the ground with exhaustion.
Not to mention he continued to fight afterwards.
He isn't running out any time soon.

Like I said before, he is like Kakashi without Kamui. Almost.

 

[Gakido]

I know, I was just saying.

For me, Neji stopped being a boss at the very beginning of Shippuden. I honestly don't belive he has what it takes to beat someone who is almost on par with Kakashi (Without kamui).Darui powned the gold and silver bros. That's pretty boss.

Also, Neji needs to be like right next to his opponent.
Hyuga are known for their byakugan and their gentle fist.
I'm sure Darui would be smart enough not to let him that close.

Naw, Pre-War Arc Kakashi without Sharingan is more on par with Darui.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Neji takes this about 70% of the time.

Darui (even with his blade) would be utterly demolished in close quarters. A few taijutsu/kenjutsu exchanges between the two, before Darui is caught in Hakke Rokujūyon Shō. If Darui should try a more cautious approach, and attack from a distance, Neji can simply force the match back into close quarters. Reizā Sākasu is easily dispersed with rotation, so I don't see it being problematic for someone of Neji's caliber. On the other hand, Kuropansa is a entirely different technique. With the speed that the panthers have displayed so far, I'd reckon they can strike Neji before he gets rotation started. Honestly this match could go either way. Neji is most likely the victor.(but Darui could pull out a win if he plays his cards right).

 

[Icelerate]

Also, you do realize he only has a 27 in the databook, right?
That isn't great.

How is that not great? Neji has the highest score in the data book compared to anyone in K11 which includes Naruto. BTW, Darui doesn't even have a data book score so your comparison is invalid. For all we know, Darui may even have a lower score. Furthermore, Temari has an even lower score but she'd wipe the floor with Darui due to bad match up/elemental advantage.

Neji couldn't stop Juubi so he can't stop Darui too. :scorps:

Juubi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Darui.

Neji takes this about 70% of the time.

Darui (even with his blade) would be utterly demolished in close quarters. A few taijutsu/kenjutsu exchanges between the two, before Darui is caught in Hakke Rokujūyon Shō. If Darui should try a more cautious approach, and attack from a distance, Neji can simply force the match back into close quarters. Reizā Sākasu is easily dispersed with rotation, so I don't see it being problematic for someone of Neji's caliber. One the other hand, Kuropansa is a entirely different technique. With the speed that the panthers have displayed so far, I'd reckon they can strike Neji before he gets rotation started. Honestly this match could go either way. Neji is most likely the victor.(but Darui could pull out a win if he plays his cards right).

This pretty much sums up my thoughts.

Anyway, Darui will probably start off with his lightning techniques which Neji can defend against. Darui will then go on and attack Neji directly with his sword but when he does that, Neji can stomp Darui in CQC. Unless Darui continues to attack at long range and try to paralyse Neji, he isn't winning.

Neji wins mid-high difficulty.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Just FYI, Rotation can counter almost anything that isn't a super massive attack(like TBB, Chou Shinra Tensei, Meteor etc.) or a powerful drilling technique(large rasengan varients, wolf fang over fang)

Back when Neji was defending against the Juubi's wooden sticks, only a few got past because he underestimated how fast he needed to spin and hence wasn't spinning fast enough, since the spinning is where the power of rotation comes from. Notice that it wasn't the same for Hiashi who has a significantly stronger rotation likely because he kept up his spin the whole time.

 

[Brooks]

I can see Neji winning with mid-diff

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Neji takes this about 70% of the time.

Darui (even with his blade) would be utterly demolished in close quarters. A few taijutsu/kenjutsu exchanges between the two, before Darui is caught in Hakke Rokujūyon Shō. If Darui should try a more cautious approach, and attack from a distance, Neji can simply force the match back into close quarters. Reizā Sākasu is easily dispersed with rotation, so I don't see it being problematic for someone of Neji's caliber. One the other hand, Kuropansa is a entirely different technique. With the speed that the panthers have displayed so far, I'd reckon they can strike Neji before he gets rotation started. Honestly this match could go either way. Neji is most likely the victor.(but Darui could pull out a win if he plays his cards right).

This changed my mind. Yeah Neji wins this, but Darui could possibly win. But yeah Neji is winning more times out of 10

Just FYI, Rotation can counter almost anything that isn't a super massive attack(like TBB, Chou Shinra Tensei, Meteor etc.) or a powerful drilling technique(large rasengan varients, wolf fang over fang)

Back when Neji was defending against the Juubi's wooden sticks, only a few got past because he underestimated how fast he needed to spin and hence wasn't spinning fast enough, since the spinning is where the power of rotation comes from. Notice that it wasn't the same for Hiashi who has a significantly stronger rotation likely because he kept up his spin the whole time.

Neji didn't underestimate the Juubi's attack, he simply couldn't spin fast enough like Hiashi who is stronger.

Neji wins though i agree

 

[Draegod]

This changed my mind. Yeah Neji wins this, but Darui could possibly win. But yeah Neji is winning more times out of 10



Neji didn't underestimate the Juubi's attack, he simply couldn't spin fast enough like Hiashi who is stronger.

Neji wins though i agree

lmao what made you change your mind? Nothing new was said! lmao