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DARK N ULTIMATE HISTORY OF UCHIHA
Hyuuga clan is one of the oldest clans in Konoha. They have been there ever since the establishment of the hidden village. Many years ago there was a girl from Hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider. She decided to marry herself to the young man despite the strong protests from her own clan. But this man was no ordinary human. In fact, this man was not a human at all. His name was Sojobo. He was the King of Tengu.

There are two types of tengus, Karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with beak and wings) and Konoha tengu (also known as Yamabushi tengu). Sojobo was a Konoha tengu. He had long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. As the King of Tengu, Sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. He carried a fan made of Fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as Tengu no Uchiwa or Tengu?s fan). He could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another. He could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them to madness. Besides, Sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. He sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.

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Konoha tengu

Anyway, this girl from Hyuuga was in love with Sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. She married him shortly after they met each other. A year or two later, she was pregnant and gave birth to their first son. Sojobo named this son Uchiha, after Uchiha which means fan. And of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan.

Everything was good. Uchiha soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. He not only inherited the Kekkei Genkai from his mother but with the Tengu blood inside him the Byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form?the Sharingan! This new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan. Like his tengu father, uchiha possessed some incredible magical powers. He was able to use telepathy to invade people?s minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. When he turned on the Mangekyou Sharingan (he had the normal Sharingan on 24/7 just like his Hyuuga kin), the eyes would further intensify his powers and bring him even closer to a tengu form. He had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely Tsukiyomi (to control people?s minds and drive them insane), Amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension)* and Susanoo (to create a storm like that created by a Tengu?s fan).


*You might be confused about this: when was it stated that Kakashi?s MS jutsu is Amaterasu? Well it has never been stated, it?s just another of my bold speculations. To make long story short,
Full moon is usually related to going insane in urban legends. (Itachi used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke on a full moon night. Coincidence?)

MS Tsukiyomi: Drives people insane.

2) Amaterasu?Goddess of the Sun
Our Sun is a huge fireball. Its matter can warp the spacetime around it that produces an effect which we call gravity (In fact all matter can warp the spacetime around it, to a certain extent). Although our Sun doesn't have enough mass to form a blackhole, other more massive stars can, after their deaths (in a spectacular way called supernova explosion)

MS Amaterasu: Teleports things to another dimension by warping the spacetime, leaving a dark fire that will burn for 7 days and 7 nights to destroy the surroundings.

*A point supporting this is that Kakashi used his left eye to cast the jutsu and Amaterasu was born from the left eye of Izanagi.

3)Susanoo?God of the Storm

MS Susanoo: Creates a storm?



But good things do not last long. As uchiha was about to reach his adulthood, Sojobo began to reveal his true intention. Sojobo didn?t marry the girl from Hyuuga out of love. He was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. He was planning on taking over uchiha?s body once he reached his adulthood. It didn?t take Uchiha long to find out this appalling truth. He felt a mixture of shock and anger. He felt he was being used but he wasn?t going to give in such easily, at least not without a fight. But uchiha knew only too well that no matter how strong he was he stood no chance against the King of Tengu. Out of desperation he sought for the legendary Bijuu?Kyuubi (the God of Fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by uchiha?s abilities. A secret pact was made and Kyuubi agreed to lend his power and chakra to Uchiha . Soon uchiha mastered the katon and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and 7 nights after performing the Amaterasu. But even with these newly gained powers and a huge supply of chakra from the Kyuubi, Uchiha was only able to beat his demon father by a hair's breadth. He couldn?t finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. However, the seal he used was a very special one. To break the seal it requires the Kyuubi's chakra and also not one but 3 Uchiha members who can wield the Mangekyou Sharingan. Each MS user has to cast a different MS jutsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus--Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo--combine, the great evil will be unleashed.

Alright, now back to the main story. Many years had come into past since Sojobo was sealed. The tengu?s blood in Uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. It was gradually being ?diluted? by constant marriages with non-Uchihas over the generations. Now even the Normal Sharingan was possessed by only the elite few among Uchihas, let alone the Mangekyou Sharingan. But the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. A tengu shrine was built underneath the Nakano temple by some of the early Uchihas to keep all the secrets of the clan inside (including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later Uchiha). Once an Uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be informed about the secret meeting place and it would then become his life-long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. The Uchihas considered this dark history as an unspeakable shame and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened.

Hints or Coincidences?

You decide it yourself.

1)Sojobo, the Tengu King
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2)What? You didn't notice anything unusual? Take a closer look.

There are 5 katakanas on that scroll: テングウチ or Tengu Uchi. There should be a sixth katakana below which is either ワ wa or ハ ha. (Thanks are due to shiinji and Chamcham Trigger ^^)

Oh, there is also a tengu plushie hidden somewhere in that room. Please find it.
You must be registered for see images

3)Tengus are said to emanate from the primordial Japanese god of sea and storm Susanoo, Susanoo was the brother of Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.

4)On one foot: Shows that a bird feels comfortable in his surroundings and secure in his environment. A secure bird will sleep with one foot tucked up to his abdomen and his head turned around and tucked into his back feathers.
Tengu is not exactly a bird but it's bird-like, so they may have similar behaviours. Also as pointed out by Quonina, many birds sleep on one foot. It probably implies that the tengu is "sleeping" or currently in a dormant state while being sealed up.
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5)Sometimes tengus are depicted with a flute and a magical gourd with endless sake (Thanks to QuoNina).
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6)The images on the wall of Uchiha's shrine symbolize a merge between Tengu and Hyuuga clan?
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7)
Tengus are said to be crow-spirits. When Itachi used a genjutsu on Naruto, Naruto saw him turned into a flock of crows.

8)We all know that many character's names in Naruto have their special meanings. They are usually related to some characteristics of the characters. For example, "Uzumaki" means "spiral".

Here, guess what does "Kakashi" mean in Japanese. It means "scarecrow"(XD). Who is the "crow"? Sasuke? Itachi? Or some other Uchiha?

9)Neji failing to see the last crow was a hint on how that Hyuuga woman failed to see through the King of Tengu, thus allowing the possibility of the Uchiha clan being born?
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For further reading on Tengu, try these websites
(The most detailed source)
 

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Really great article / thread you made.

Go on like this and surprise us with deep knowledge of japanese mythology. And combine it with naruto.

I just think that you hit the nail on the hat with those coincidences :)

Thanks
Tsukuyomi (my name fits to this thread)
 

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i posted this same thread when i joined NB but im glad you went into more detail and combined it with factual evidence from naruto :) most people would say its fake but i still think its true, so +rep for you ^^
 

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i posted this same thread when i joined NB but im glad you went into more detail and combined it with factual evidence from naruto :) most people would say its fake but i still think its true, so +rep for you ^^

thnx man yaa i too thnk its true i mean some people say tht madara true intention of collecting tailed beasts is tht he used use tht chakra n release the sojobo!!!!! n making every one in the world know tht uchiha's dominate them
 

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DARK N ULTIMATE HISTORY OF UCHIHA
Hyuuga clan is one of the oldest clans in Konoha. They have been there ever since the establishment of the hidden village. Many years ago there was a girl from Hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider. She decided to marry herself to the young man despite the strong protests from her own clan. But this man was no ordinary human. In fact, this man was not a human at all. His name was Sojobo. He was the King of Tengu.

There are two types of tengus, Karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with beak and wings) and Konoha tengu (also known as Yamabushi tengu). Sojobo was a Konoha tengu. He had long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. As the King of Tengu, Sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. He carried a fan made of Fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as Tengu no Uchiwa or Tengu?s fan). He could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another. He could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them to madness. Besides, Sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. He sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.

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Konoha tengu

Anyway, this girl from Hyuuga was in love with Sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. She married him shortly after they met each other. A year or two later, she was pregnant and gave birth to their first son. Sojobo named this son Uchiha, after Uchiha which means fan. And of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan.

Everything was good. Uchiha soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. He not only inherited the Kekkei Genkai from his mother but with the Tengu blood inside him the Byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form?the Sharingan! This new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan. Like his tengu father, uchiha possessed some incredible magical powers. He was able to use telepathy to invade people?s minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. When he turned on the Mangekyou Sharingan (he had the normal Sharingan on 24/7 just like his Hyuuga kin), the eyes would further intensify his powers and bring him even closer to a tengu form. He had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely Tsukiyomi (to control people?s minds and drive them insane), Amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension)* and Susanoo (to create a storm like that created by a Tengu?s fan).


*You might be confused about this: when was it stated that Kakashi?s MS jutsu is Amaterasu? Well it has never been stated, it?s just another of my bold speculations. To make long story short,
Full moon is usually related to going insane in urban legends. (Itachi used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke on a full moon night. Coincidence?)

MS Tsukiyomi: Drives people insane.

2) Amaterasu?Goddess of the Sun
Our Sun is a huge fireball. Its matter can warp the spacetime around it that produces an effect which we call gravity (In fact all matter can warp the spacetime around it, to a certain extent). Although our Sun doesn't have enough mass to form a blackhole, other more massive stars can, after their deaths (in a spectacular way called supernova explosion)

MS Amaterasu: Teleports things to another dimension by warping the spacetime, leaving a dark fire that will burn for 7 days and 7 nights to destroy the surroundings.

*A point supporting this is that Kakashi used his left eye to cast the jutsu and Amaterasu was born from the left eye of Izanagi.

3)Susanoo?God of the Storm

MS Susanoo: Creates a storm?



But good things do not last long. As uchiha was about to reach his adulthood, Sojobo began to reveal his true intention. Sojobo didn?t marry the girl from Hyuuga out of love. He was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. He was planning on taking over uchiha?s body once he reached his adulthood. It didn?t take Uchiha long to find out this appalling truth. He felt a mixture of shock and anger. He felt he was being used but he wasn?t going to give in such easily, at least not without a fight. But uchiha knew only too well that no matter how strong he was he stood no chance against the King of Tengu. Out of desperation he sought for the legendary Bijuu?Kyuubi (the God of Fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by uchiha?s abilities. A secret pact was made and Kyuubi agreed to lend his power and chakra to Uchiha . Soon uchiha mastered the katon and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and 7 nights after performing the Amaterasu. But even with these newly gained powers and a huge supply of chakra from the Kyuubi, Uchiha was only able to beat his demon father by a hair's breadth. He couldn?t finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. However, the seal he used was a very special one. To break the seal it requires the Kyuubi's chakra and also not one but 3 Uchiha members who can wield the Mangekyou Sharingan. Each MS user has to cast a different MS jutsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus--Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo--combine, the great evil will be unleashed.

Alright, now back to the main story. Many years had come into past since Sojobo was sealed. The tengu?s blood in Uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. It was gradually being ?diluted? by constant marriages with non-Uchihas over the generations. Now even the Normal Sharingan was possessed by only the elite few among Uchihas, let alone the Mangekyou Sharingan. But the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. A tengu shrine was built underneath the Nakano temple by some of the early Uchihas to keep all the secrets of the clan inside (including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later Uchiha). Once an Uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be informed about the secret meeting place and it would then become his life-long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. The Uchihas considered this dark history as an unspeakable shame and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened.

Hints or Coincidences?

You decide it yourself.

1)Sojobo, the Tengu King
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2)What? You didn't notice anything unusual? Take a closer look.

There are 5 katakanas on that scroll: テングウチ or Tengu Uchi. There should be a sixth katakana below which is either ワ wa or ハ ha. (Thanks are due to shiinji and Chamcham Trigger ^^)

Oh, there is also a tengu plushie hidden somewhere in that room. Please find it.
You must be registered for see images

3)Tengus are said to emanate from the primordial Japanese god of sea and storm Susanoo, Susanoo was the brother of Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.

4)On one foot: Shows that a bird feels comfortable in his surroundings and secure in his environment. A secure bird will sleep with one foot tucked up to his abdomen and his head turned around and tucked into his back feathers.
Tengu is not exactly a bird but it's bird-like, so they may have similar behaviours. Also as pointed out by Quonina, many birds sleep on one foot. It probably implies that the tengu is "sleeping" or currently in a dormant state while being sealed up.
You must be registered for see images

5)Sometimes tengus are depicted with a flute and a magical gourd with endless sake (Thanks to QuoNina).
You must be registered for see images

6)The images on the wall of Uchiha's shrine symbolize a merge between Tengu and Hyuuga clan?
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images


7)
Tengus are said to be crow-spirits. When Itachi used a genjutsu on Naruto, Naruto saw him turned into a flock of crows.

8)We all know that many character's names in Naruto have their special meanings. They are usually related to some characteristics of the characters. For example, "Uzumaki" means "spiral".

Here, guess what does "Kakashi" mean in Japanese. It means "scarecrow"(XD). Who is the "crow"? Sasuke? Itachi? Or some other Uchiha?

9)Neji failing to see the last crow was a hint on how that Hyuuga woman failed to see through the King of Tengu, thus allowing the possibility of the Uchiha clan being born?
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For further reading on Tengu, try these websites
(The most detailed source)
nice theroy but it turned out 2 be fake caust this doesn ot mention madras brother
or the ems
 

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Really, since I don't know any actual history of Japan or of their ancestory/folklore, I have no clue whether I should take this theory into account... I'll have to think about it, but I don't think I'll research it. If it starts coming true, or too many things are the same and I can't ignore it, I'll re-examine the possibility/probability. Thanks, either way.
 

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:cool:Really nice thread man gave me a good read :D interesting theory,ive seen alot of these sortve threads with people referring to the 3 eye techniques (whether it be hinduism etc..)but they all seem interesting and fit quite well with the story and it opens alot of peoples eyes to the hidden depth within naruto and the effort that has been put into it :D
 

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great theory. but since it was written the first 2 lines were proven wrong. the uchiha are one of the 2 founding clans of konoha. which would mean that the tengu/hyuga birth happened at least (i think anyways) 100 years before madara's birth.:sasuke:
 

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This is really nice and fitting, but Konoha was founded by Madara!
How could he be a child born in the village then?
Dude listen to wot you just said madara founded konoha????think you got your facts wrong there it was the 1st hokage who did.....:cool:
 

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DARK N ULTIMATE HISTORY OF UCHIHA
Hyuuga clan is one of the oldest clans in Konoha. They have been there ever since the establishment of the hidden village. Many years ago there was a girl from Hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider. She decided to marry herself to the young man despite the strong protests from her own clan. But this man was no ordinary human. In fact, this man was not a human at all. His name was Sojobo. He was the King of Tengu.

There are two types of tengus, Karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with beak and wings) and Konoha tengu (also known as Yamabushi tengu). Sojobo was a Konoha tengu. He had long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. As the King of Tengu, Sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. He carried a fan made of Fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as Tengu no Uchiwa or Tengu?s fan). He could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another. He could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them to madness. Besides, Sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. He sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.

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Konoha tengu

Anyway, this girl from Hyuuga was in love with Sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. She married him shortly after they met each other. A year or two later, she was pregnant and gave birth to their first son. Sojobo named this son Uchiha, after Uchiha which means fan. And of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan.

Everything was good. Uchiha soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. He not only inherited the Kekkei Genkai from his mother but with the Tengu blood inside him the Byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form?the Sharingan! This new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan. Like his tengu father, uchiha possessed some incredible magical powers. He was able to use telepathy to invade people?s minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. When he turned on the Mangekyou Sharingan (he had the normal Sharingan on 24/7 just like his Hyuuga kin), the eyes would further intensify his powers and bring him even closer to a tengu form. He had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely Tsukiyomi (to control people?s minds and drive them insane), Amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension)* and Susanoo (to create a storm like that created by a Tengu?s fan).


*You might be confused about this: when was it stated that Kakashi?s MS jutsu is Amaterasu? Well it has never been stated, it?s just another of my bold speculations. To make long story short,
Full moon is usually related to going insane in urban legends. (Itachi used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke on a full moon night. Coincidence?)

MS Tsukiyomi: Drives people insane.

2) Amaterasu?Goddess of the Sun
Our Sun is a huge fireball. Its matter can warp the spacetime around it that produces an effect which we call gravity (In fact all matter can warp the spacetime around it, to a certain extent). Although our Sun doesn't have enough mass to form a blackhole, other more massive stars can, after their deaths (in a spectacular way called supernova explosion)

MS Amaterasu: Teleports things to another dimension by warping the spacetime, leaving a dark fire that will burn for 7 days and 7 nights to destroy the surroundings.

*A point supporting this is that Kakashi used his left eye to cast the jutsu and Amaterasu was born from the left eye of Izanagi.

3)Susanoo?God of the Storm

MS Susanoo: Creates a storm?



But good things do not last long. As uchiha was about to reach his adulthood, Sojobo began to reveal his true intention. Sojobo didn?t marry the girl from Hyuuga out of love. He was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. He was planning on taking over uchiha?s body once he reached his adulthood. It didn?t take Uchiha long to find out this appalling truth. He felt a mixture of shock and anger. He felt he was being used but he wasn?t going to give in such easily, at least not without a fight. But uchiha knew only too well that no matter how strong he was he stood no chance against the King of Tengu. Out of desperation he sought for the legendary Bijuu?Kyuubi (the God of Fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by uchiha?s abilities. A secret pact was made and Kyuubi agreed to lend his power and chakra to Uchiha . Soon uchiha mastered the katon and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and 7 nights after performing the Amaterasu. But even with these newly gained powers and a huge supply of chakra from the Kyuubi, Uchiha was only able to beat his demon father by a hair's breadth. He couldn?t finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. However, the seal he used was a very special one. To break the seal it requires the Kyuubi's chakra and also not one but 3 Uchiha members who can wield the Mangekyou Sharingan. Each MS user has to cast a different MS jutsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus--Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo--combine, the great evil will be unleashed.

Alright, now back to the main story. Many years had come into past since Sojobo was sealed. The tengu?s blood in Uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. It was gradually being ?diluted? by constant marriages with non-Uchihas over the generations. Now even the Normal Sharingan was possessed by only the elite few among Uchihas, let alone the Mangekyou Sharingan. But the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. A tengu shrine was built underneath the Nakano temple by some of the early Uchihas to keep all the secrets of the clan inside (including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later Uchiha). Once an Uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be informed about the secret meeting place and it would then become his life-long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. The Uchihas considered this dark history as an unspeakable shame and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened.

Hints or Coincidences?

You decide it yourself.

1)Sojobo, the Tengu King
You must be registered for see images

2)What? You didn't notice anything unusual? Take a closer look.

There are 5 katakanas on that scroll: テングウチ or Tengu Uchi. There should be a sixth katakana below which is either ワ wa or ハ ha. (Thanks are due to shiinji and Chamcham Trigger ^^)

Oh, there is also a tengu plushie hidden somewhere in that room. Please find it.
You must be registered for see images

3)Tengus are said to emanate from the primordial Japanese god of sea and storm Susanoo, Susanoo was the brother of Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.

4)On one foot: Shows that a bird feels comfortable in his surroundings and secure in his environment. A secure bird will sleep with one foot tucked up to his abdomen and his head turned around and tucked into his back feathers.
Tengu is not exactly a bird but it's bird-like, so they may have similar behaviours. Also as pointed out by Quonina, many birds sleep on one foot. It probably implies that the tengu is "sleeping" or currently in a dormant state while being sealed up.
You must be registered for see images

5)Sometimes tengus are depicted with a flute and a magical gourd with endless sake (Thanks to QuoNina).
You must be registered for see images

6)The images on the wall of Uchiha's shrine symbolize a merge between Tengu and Hyuuga clan?
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images


7)
Tengus are said to be crow-spirits. When Itachi used a genjutsu on Naruto, Naruto saw him turned into a flock of crows.

8)We all know that many character's names in Naruto have their special meanings. They are usually related to some characteristics of the characters. For example, "Uzumaki" means "spiral".

Here, guess what does "Kakashi" mean in Japanese. It means "scarecrow"(XD). Who is the "crow"? Sasuke? Itachi? Or some other Uchiha?

9)Neji failing to see the last crow was a hint on how that Hyuuga woman failed to see through the King of Tengu, thus allowing the possibility of the Uchiha clan being born?
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For further reading on Tengu, try these websites
(The most detailed source)
Okay....I read something like this b4, but then after reading the manga about when Madara told Sasuke about how Konoha got started, I see there is a conflict....Madara never said anything about the Hyuuga being around when Konoha was established...it was just the Uchiha and the Senju clan.......but he could've been/most likely lying and not telling him the whole story (because Madara is somewhat of a manipulator)......what do you think? ...but great theory nonetheless
 

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Dude listen to wot you just said madara founded konoha????think you got your facts wrong there it was the 1st hokage who did.....:cool:
shodaime and madara both founded konoha.
the uchiha clan and senju clan made an alliance and that new alliance was called konoha so yes madara is a founder of the leaf.
 
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