Danzou is tobi! Or is working with him!

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somethin came up could danzo be tobi or be working with him because,
first of all eye that tobi has danzo has it wrapped up and the eye that danzo
has is on the right which tobi does not have could they have been working together and be the ones who released kyubi on the village back then because they both have their own reasons for wanting to destroy konoha!
we all kno danzo is mad because 3rd did not listen to him and tobi got owned by 1st hokage.

now look at his bio
In the past, he competed with Sarutobi for the position of Third Hokage. He created the (now disbanded) ANBU training department known as Root (根, Ne) and acted as its head. Danzo was the one who recommended that Sai be placed in Team Kakashi. He appears to have lost an arm at some point, the cause of which remains unknown, and may have also lost his right eye.

Even though he is not an official part in the leadership of Konoha, the two Konoha Elders still hold him in high regard and have often taken his advice when dealing with the politics of the village.

He later on took part in the dealings with the Uchiha Clan, when they learned that they were planning a take over of the village. He took part in planting Uchiha Itachi as a spy in his own clan, and it is supposed that it was him who ordered the annihilation of the clan in order to avoid a civil war that would lead to the destruction of the village.

However after assignment was over, it is somehow revealed to him that Itachi was unable to kill his little brother, and he was later threatened by Itachi, that he would tell everything if he ever touched Sasuke.

Theory #1
He is tobi and keeps his eye rapped up because he has a sharingan and is secretly an akatsuki member. his arm being rapped up as well explain these bolts on tobis arms
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Now look at half of tobis face wrinkly and if u look at danzo face it has the same wrinkle lines as his!!!!
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Theory #2
After madara was owned by 1st hokage danzo found him and made deals with him, danzo wanted madaras sharingan and in exhange madara wanted itachi to destroy uchiha except sasuke so madara could complete this big plan he is talking about! because danzo was the only one who had enough power to order that and he did He took part in planting Uchiha Itachi as a spy in his own clan, and it is supposed that it was him who ordered the annihilation of the clan in order to avoid a civil war that would lead to the destruction of the village.

So tell me what you think of my theory
 
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pretty nice

well uhh i cant say its wrong but i sorta agree? but like tsunade has anbu looking after him so iono how he can escape, and if u remember on one of the anime episode alot of anbus went after danzou and id un remember them explaining why . so yeah i sorta agrees with u, nice theory.:)
 

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I really am kinda CONFUSED,
there are at least 100 possible theories
for every part of Naruto.

Could be, of course :)
 

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Im sorry but I dont agree with you regarding these theories. Firstly, we all know that Itachi hates Danzou, he even threatened Danzou when he wanted to hurt Sasuke, If Danzou was/is Madara/Tobi why then would Itachi go to Akatsuki to "work" for the person he hates? And if you tell me that Itachi couldnt see through Danzou's illusions, then the all mighty Sharingan is not so great. Itachi is the master of illusions, I would really thought he could have seen through that.

Secoundly we all know that Tobi = Mizukage, since Sharkface told us, if Tobi = Danzou, when did Danzou became the Mizukage, and would no 1 in the village notice that the beaten up old man is going away for extended periods of time to visit another village? Doesnt make sence. Konoha would have some form of record for Danzou to better classify whom he really is.

Thirdly, do you really think that Madara would give up on his precious eyes which he took from his brother, which provides him eternal life and what not, to a beaten up broken monkey? Madara/Tobi have confronted Itachi before his mission to destroy the Uchiha's, and Madara's main focus for Akatsuki is to dominate the world, including Konoha, so why would he do that?
 

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Im sorry but I dont agree with you regarding these theories. Firstly, we all know that Itachi hates Danzou, he even threatened Danzou when he wanted to hurt Sasuke, If Danzou was/is Madara/Tobi why then would Itachi go to Akatsuki to "work" for the person he hates? And if you tell me that Itachi couldnt see through Danzou's illusions, then the all mighty Sharingan is not so great. Itachi is the master of illusions, I would really thought he could have seen through that.

Secoundly we all know that Tobi = Mizukage, since Sharkface told us, if Tobi = Danzou, when did Danzou became the Mizukage, and would no 1 in the village notice that the beaten up old man is going away for extended periods of time to visit another village? Doesnt make sence. Konoha would have some form of record for Danzou to better classify whom he really is.

Thirdly, do you really think that Madara would give up on his precious eyes which he took from his brother, which provides him eternal life and what not, to a beaten up broken monkey? Madara/Tobi have confronted Itachi before his mission to destroy the Uchiha's, and Madara's main focus for Akatsuki is to dominate the world, including Konoha, so why would he do that?


"Im sorry but I dont agree with you regarding these theories. Firstly, we all know that Itachi hates Danzou, he even threatened Danzou when he wanted to hurt Sasuke, If Danzou was/is Madara/Tobi why then would Itachi go to Akatsuki to "work" for the person he hates? And if you tell me that Itachi couldnt see through Danzou's illusions, then the all mighty Sharingan is not so great. Itachi is the master of illusions, I would really thought he could have seen through that."

Ok so yes he does hate Danzo and he hates Tobi thats why he is tryed to kill him with ameratsu! I think zetsu or pain is assiting him with a body control jutsu or something... or they are working together! why would he work for him, its because itachi dint kno much and first of all itachi had no choice he could not go anywhere else and c if he was with tobi then he could monitor his actions so that he could not reach sasuke or kill him, personnaly itachi is smart but tobi easilly stopped itachis last resort long ago now!

"Secoundly we all know that Tobi = Mizukage, since Sharkface told us, if Tobi = Danzou, when did Danzou became the Mizukage, and would no 1 in the village notice that the beaten up old man is going away for extended periods of time to visit another village? Doesnt make sence. Konoha would have some form of record for Danzou to better classify whom he really is."

im saying again its maybe a rinnengan power and thats why tobi needs pain or sumthin okay this theory does have flaws but i think its going to become tru. and he does not need to go out anywhere thats why he has root members to do his job as u can see sai did without anyone even noticing it! why do u think people watch him 24/7 cause they all kno he is evil!

"Thirdly, do you really think that Madara would give up on his precious eyes which he took from his brother, which provides him eternal life and what not, to a beaten up broken monkey? Madara/Tobi have confronted Itachi before his mission to destroy the Uchiha's, and Madara's main focus for Akatsuki is to dominate the world, including Konoha, so why would he do that?"

Yes he would because i believe at that time he was weak after the battle with 1st and he needed an upper hand which he got by gaining itachi on his side and now look at him he has sasuke on his side and could take sasukes away anyday and plus he has itachis eyes still laying around, so if u ask me he is pertty happy with where he is at right now! why would he do that hmmm is it not obvious who else wants to do that? jus think duh DANZO he doesnt like how konoha is run and probably made a deal with tobi saying u can have the world but i control konoha!
 

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"Im sorry but I dont agree with you regarding these theories. Firstly, we all know that Itachi hates Danzou, he even threatened Danzou when he wanted to hurt Sasuke, If Danzou was/is Madara/Tobi why then would Itachi go to Akatsuki to "work" for the person he hates? And if you tell me that Itachi couldnt see through Danzou's illusions, then the all mighty Sharingan is not so great. Itachi is the master of illusions, I would really thought he could have seen through that."

Ok so yes he does hate Danzo and he hates Tobi thats why he is tryed to kill him with ameratsu! I think zetsu or pain is assiting him with a body control jutsu or something... or they are working together! why would he work for him, its because itachi dint kno much and first of all itachi had no choice he could not go anywhere else and c if he was with tobi then he could monitor his actions so that he could not reach sasuke or kill him, personnaly itachi is smart but tobi easilly stopped itachis last resort long ago now!

"Secoundly we all know that Tobi = Mizukage, since Sharkface told us, if Tobi = Danzou, when did Danzou became the Mizukage, and would no 1 in the village notice that the beaten up old man is going away for extended periods of time to visit another village? Doesnt make sence. Konoha would have some form of record for Danzou to better classify whom he really is."

im saying again its maybe a rinnengan power and thats why tobi needs pain or sumthin okay this theory does have flaws but i think its going to become tru. and he does not need to go out anywhere thats why he has root members to do his job as u can see sai did without anyone even noticing it! why do u think people watch him 24/7 cause they all kno he is evil!

"Thirdly, do you really think that Madara would give up on his precious eyes which he took from his brother, which provides him eternal life and what not, to a beaten up broken monkey? Madara/Tobi have confronted Itachi before his mission to destroy the Uchiha's, and Madara's main focus for Akatsuki is to dominate the world, including Konoha, so why would he do that?"

Yes he would because i believe at that time he was weak after the battle with 1st and he needed an upper hand which he got by gaining itachi on his side and now look at him he has sasuke on his side and could take sasukes away anyday and plus he has itachis eyes still laying around, so if u ask me he is pertty happy with where he is at right now! why would he do that hmmm is it not obvious who else wants to do that? jus think duh DANZO he doesnt like how konoha is run and probably made a deal with tobi saying u can have the world but i control konoha!


You say:

Ok so yes he does hate Danzo and he hates Tobi thats why he is tryed to kill him with ameratsu! I think zetsu or pain is assiting him with a body control jutsu or something... or they are working together! why would he work for him, its because itachi dint kno much and first of all itachi had no choice he could not go anywhere else and c if he was with tobi then he could monitor his actions so that he could not reach sasuke or kill him, personnaly itachi is smart but tobi easilly stopped itachis last resort long ago now!

I say:

So you rather go and work for the person that you hate the most because there is no other place to go? Itachi went back to the village to show Danzou that he is still there, why then would he go back to Konoha to check up Danzou if Tobi=Danzou?

You say:

im saying again its maybe a rinnengan power and thats why tobi needs pain or sumthin okay this theory does have flaws but i think its going to become tru. and he does not need to go out anywhere thats why he has root members to do his job as u can see sai did without anyone even noticing it! why do u think people watch him 24/7 cause they all kno he is evil!

I say:

O, so know all of a sudden its a renningan power thats assisting im, Im sorry, but I have read your post and you didnt say anything about a rinnengan, what maybe the rinnengan can make coffee also? I dont want to be rude, but if you make a comment like that, rather state it first before you say it "again". I agree with you he is evil and I think there might be some ties between the two, all Im trying to do is to indicate to you that they are not the same person.


You say:

Yes he would because i believe at that time he was weak after the battle with 1st and he needed an upper hand which he got by gaining itachi on his side and now look at him he has sasuke on his side and could take sasukes away anyday and plus he has itachis eyes still laying around, so if u ask me he is pertty happy with where he is at right now! why would he do that hmmm is it not obvious who else wants to do that? jus think duh DANZO he doesnt like how konoha is run and probably made a deal with tobi saying u can have the world but i control konoha!


I say:

Maybe you dont understand what Im getting at, Why would Madara/Tobi, give up his eyes/Borthers eyes, especially to a half dead fart how is the leader of a would be organinzation(Danzou+Root)? Remember, he hates the Uchiha's and want them to pay, because he needed to take his brothers eyes in order for them to compete with the Senju's, and then later his own clan voted against him, thus nullifying his brothers sacrifice! And know you want to hand it over on a silver plate to Danzou?It doesnt make sence, making a deal with a guy to get back at a village. lose an eye or 2, where you could just have taken it? Like Pain is doing right now.

Like you say, Itachi's eyes are laying there nice and cuddly, why did he not give them to Danzou, if eye swapping was part of the trade?

Look, I would most likely agree with you that they might be working together, but not on the circumstances that you pointed out. and that is just a might.
 

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simple thing you missed out danzou and tobi hair is totally different:D. plus the wringles on danzou's face is going upwards and the wringles on tobi face going horizontal
 

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there just theorys people dont flame me
i totally think it would make a REALLY cool story line if danzou were tobi and i typed out a story line about it once but after looking closely i doubt it... not that i couldn't be wrong, it happens once in a while. not flaming you bro, i would never do that. i never take a hard stand on any theory but i toss them out like candy all the time lol. i really like the theory and like i said it would make a cool story line. i DO however think danzou is involved with the akatsuki. i believe tobi is either madara or obito or a combination of the two. i think kishi threw in danzou with his covered eye and messed up arm to mess with us.

i also think it's possible that someone other that itachi killed the uchiha clan and itachi chased them off. the blood on his sword could've belonged to the culprit OR he pulled the sword from his parents right when sasuke walked in. sasuke came to the obvious conclusion when he saw itachi standing over his parents' with a bloody sword. itachi wouldn't kill his brother and he knew who was behind it. itachi was a genus, he knew how it looked, he knew who was behind it and he knew sasuke would have to be the one to avenge the family. he could've given sasuke the inspiration he needed to become the powerful ninja he is today by being the source of all his pain and a purpose. perhaps itachi had intended the whole time to have sasuke take his eyes to get the EMS he needs to beat madara/obito/madito. anyway, i'm getting off topic, sorry... if it were the case that danzou was involved in the slaying and itachi knew the truth he would have to leave the village. maybe he had a deal with danzou that he'd leave the village and take the blame in exchange for sasuke's safety. i think itachi was stronger than madara. he said madara is a mere shell of his former self meaning he's much weaker than he was all those years ago. maybe another deal was that itachi would be allowed to join the akatsuki in exchange for not kill him or telling everyone his true identity if it's obito or madito?

anyway, there are TONS of theory's to consider including the one that tobi is simply maradra and there aren't any twists or mysteries to be solved. but still.. it's always fun to speculate :)
 

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Well I've heard many theories about the true identity of Tobi. The most sounded predictions are Danzou or Obito, cuz they share the physical qualities that matches up with Tobi. Obito remember only haves one eye (the left one) and Danzou too. Madara is too old to be alive at this time so, it has to be some kind of super jutsu in order to still be alive. It could be but it wont be a surprise cuz you all see the kind of jutsus Atasuki uses (Rinnegan, Hidan's inmortality, Kakuzu's 5 lives, and the jutsu they perform to extract a biju from it's owner). I really think it's Obito.
On the other hand, Danzou's description also matches greatly, and even his plans cuz he owns the Anbu Root, he dislikes the Hokages, and even he was aware of Itachi's real matters. It's kinda hard to choose which one is it, but, if the naruto creators are master-minded geeks (xD), I'm pretty sure that when they reveal Tobi's true identity, we're gonna be really surprised =)

Regards to all of you, this is my first post here.
 

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Woow, easy on TC9tails!
Don't kill him :D
He just made an Assumption,

Could be, could be not,
For me It's a nice Idea!
(however I doubt it too :) )

Tons of theories, yeah!

:)
 

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somethin came up could danzo be tobi or be working with him because,
first of all eye that tobi has danzo has it wrapped up and the eye that danzo
has is on the right which tobi does not have could they have been working together and be the ones who released kyubi on the village back then because they both have their own reasons for wanting to destroy konoha!
we all kno danzo is mad because 3rd did not listen to him and tobi got owned by 1st hokage.

now look at his bio
In the past, he competed with Sarutobi for the position of Third Hokage. He created the (now disbanded) ANBU training department known as Root (根, Ne) and acted as its head. Danzo was the one who recommended that Sai be placed in Team Kakashi. He appears to have lost an arm at some point, the cause of which remains unknown, and may have also lost his right eye.

Even though he is not an official part in the leadership of Konoha, the two Konoha Elders still hold him in high regard and have often taken his advice when dealing with the politics of the village.

He later on took part in the dealings with the Uchiha Clan, when they learned that they were planning a take over of the village. He took part in planting Uchiha Itachi as a spy in his own clan, and it is supposed that it was him who ordered the annihilation of the clan in order to avoid a civil war that would lead to the destruction of the village.

However after assignment was over, it is somehow revealed to him that Itachi was unable to kill his little brother, and he was later threatened by Itachi, that he would tell everything if he ever touched Sasuke.

Theory #1
He is tobi and keeps his eye rapped up because he has a sharingan and is secretly an akatsuki member. his arm being rapped up as well explain these bolts on tobis arms
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Now look at half of tobis face wrinkly and if u look at danzo face it has the same wrinkle lines as his!!!!
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Theory #2
After madara was owned by 1st hokage danzo found him and made deals with him, danzo wanted madaras sharingan and in exhange madara wanted itachi to destroy uchiha except sasuke so madara could complete this big plan he is talking about! because danzo was the only one who had enough power to order that and he did He took part in planting Uchiha Itachi as a spy in his own clan, and it is supposed that it was him who ordered the annihilation of the clan in order to avoid a civil war that would lead to the destruction of the village.

So tell me what you think of my theory
thats waht isaid What the hell o well i wil giv u Reps
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because tobi/madara was the mizukage means that he cant be danzo...
plus those bolts in his arms are just a newer style of his old ones.
there hair is different.
eyes are different.....
and was trying to team up with orochimaru to defeat kohona and then turn on orochimaru before he could turn on him.
that means danzo was scared of orochimaru.
tobi/madara is way stronger and has no reason to be scared.

and also it cant be obito.
obito names is similiar to tobis but it doesnt mean there the same person.
haku and zakus names are similiar besides one letter, doesnt mean that there the same person.....
and tobis hair used to have a hair style like madara......he got a hair cut.
and about the eye thing....
they show part of his face when he is talking to sasuke and it isnt messed up or anything so it cant be obito...
plus madara was thought to be dead when he fought shodaime...
maybe he got his left eyes got cut or destroyed or something.
and if it was obito how would he know all about madara and how would he get so strong....
he used to be really weak...
also it wasnt just obitos left side that got chrushed...
after kakashi killed the guy who droped the rocks they did it again and his whole body got crushed.....
and finally every one says that tobi acts goofy like obito..
but ive read the manga with him in it and not one have i see obito act goofy...
the whole time hes either argueing with kakashi or being annoying..
never goofy...
and also he evan said he was madara uchihia and how would he know about mangekyo sharingan and be strong enbough to train itachi and tell him about the mangekyo sharingan........
so there is no possible way on earth that tobi is obito....
 

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there just theorys people dont flame me
Sorry, bro not meant to flame you, just wanted to inform you about the other possibility's, dont take offense. I like coming up with theories also, and like it when people try to prove it wrong, rather than getting aggravated I learn from it and adjust my theory. So dont see it as flaming if someone point out the flaws.

Hope you ponder on that one, and give us a revamp on the theory. ; )
 
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