Danzou and Tobirama true Leaders of Konaha!

[HashiramaIsBack]

I state that Tobirama and Danzou are the true leaders of Konoha!They are willing to do everything for the sake of their village,even if it does includes sacrificeing endless shinobis.They are strong,leader can't be someone that is weaker then other jounins in the village.Tobirama sacrificed himself for Danzou and Sarutobi and other jounin fodders that names are unknow.Danzou fought against Sasuke and lost.But Sasuke wasn't alone and didn't solo him.Sure Hashirama is a great leader and have many contributions to the village but he is not being serious all the time like Tobirama and Danzou.Tsunade is not even the strongest in the village.and Hiruzen got beaten by his own student.My point is that Tobirama and Danzou are the true leaders in Konoha and that they should be remembered more then Hiruzen and Tsunade,they can't be more famous then Hashirama that is the fact.My only disappointment in Danzou is when he did nothing in Pain Arc.Be polite on this thread

 

[accept pain]

yes i agree....they can see future

 

[Simple Math]

I agree with this. o_o.

 

[xcoyote]

Danzo is a coward,he is not a leader,Pain invasion arc proved that.

 

[itachi4real]

Yea they are especially danzo

 

[uchiahjay]

Orochimaro is a true humanitarian

 

[GOD2U]

I can agree with tobirama but danzo is just a manipulative war hawk.

 

[naruto6th]

Unless the whole world is sacrificed... danzo wont be satisfied (just saiyan)

 

[Tobby17]

Tobirama and Danzo are not the same -__-

 

[raiban]

Just because you sacrifice countless ninjas for the sake of the village, does not mean you are a good leader. Danzou created his own death by having the uchiha massacre happen, causing sasuke to have a great deal of hate towards his brother. Which eventually lead to his defection, because he wanted power. Sasuke finds out that Danzo was in charge of the plain to wipe out the Uchiha. Sasuke is pushed further towards the darkness, leading him to want to destroy the village and the people responsible.
I don't know what solo means, but I will say Obito did not intervene in the fight and Karin merely got in the way with her blabbering and getting captured and healing crap. Although I will point out that Sasuke took on A who himself is at the level of a tailed beast.
I can see Tobirama being seen as the true leader of Konoha, because unlike Danzo, he did not sacrifice countless ninjas, but instead sacrificed himself and his face. Also the way he set up the whole Uchiha situation was a great idea seeing as how they are even more dangerous when their hearts are broken, so what he did was have them become Konoha's police and hopefully lead them to become the role models of the next generation, but his dream was short lived, because of the Kinkaku Force. Oh and unlike Danzo, Tobirama is not a wanna be So6P who only wants to kill himself to be like his dad and grandad, Tobirama has skill and strategy that is probably only beaten by Hashirama and Madara.
Even though I strongly disagree with your statement of Danzo AND Tobirama being the true leaders of Konoha, I will say that Tobirama is one of Konoha's best leaders, because during the war he wittingly made Hiruzen the Hokage, because he was neither an Uchiha or a Senju, which started the whole line of Hokages who weren't related.

 

[Tobby17]

Just because you sacrifice countless ninjas for the sake of the village, does not mean you are a good leader. Danzou created his own death by having the uchiha massacre happen, causing sasuke to have a great deal of hate towards his brother. Which eventually lead to his defection, because he wanted power. Sasuke finds out that Danzo was in charge of the plain to wipe out the Uchiha. Sasuke is pushed further towards the darkness, leading him to want to destroy the village and the people responsible.
I don't know what solo means, but I will say Obito did not intervene in the fight and Karin merely got in the way with her blabbering and getting captured and healing crap. Although I will point out that Sasuke took on A who himself is at the level of a tailed beast.
I can see Tobirama being seen as the true leader of Konoha, because unlike Danzo, he did not sacrifice countless ninjas, but instead sacrificed himself and his face. Also the way he set up the whole Uchiha situation was a great idea seeing as how they are even more dangerous when their hearts are broken, so what he did was have them become Konoha's police and hopefully lead them to become the role models of the next generation, but his dream was short lived, because of the Kinkaku Force. Oh and unlike Danzo, Tobirama is not a wanna be So6P who only wants to kill himself to be like his dad and grandad, Tobirama has skill and strategy that is probably only beaten by Hashirama and Madara.
Even though I strongly disagree with your statement of Danzo AND Tobirama being the true leaders of Konoha, I will say that Tobirama is one of Konoha's best leaders, because during the war he wittingly made Hiruzen the Hokage, because he was neither an Uchiha or a Senju, which started the whole line of Hokages who weren't related.

Couldn't have said it better myself

But i do believe that Tobirama is the best Hokage though

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

The only mistake is that Tobirama was never willing to sacrifice endless shinobi. That was Danzo's greatest flaw in general (you can't rule if you just sacrifice everything).

Tobirama was rational, tried to give everyone roles they'd best serve, and then died for the next generation.

Tobirama was a true leader....Danzo was a leader; however, he has a skewered sense...he cared more for the state than the people. Tobirama cared equally for state and people.

 

[Haru70]

Tobirama I agree with.. but Danzou.. not so much. Although he did do some things for the sake of the village.. I'll give him that.