[Discussion] Danzou and his forbidden technique Izanagi

[Kuroi Honoo]

This is a discussion thread based on Danzou's forbidden Izanagi technique. In the very beginning of the fight, he invoked some hand seals and we were all left wondering what that could have been for. Now, it seems that we have our answer, ne? Hence Danzou surviving every fatal blow Sasuke dealt as he reappears unscathed. I have some pages below to get a better feel about what I want to mainly discuss:

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He kicks Karin to preserve his chakra and I would assume the reason why is because of how much chakra Izanagi possibly uses up.

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As Sasuke activates his now complete Suasno'o, Danzou is slightly slashed in the process.

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Here we have Danzou quoting that he hasn't the time to form the seals (hmm...Izanagi I suppose) and instead uses Mokuton and then...

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Afterward, he states that he avoided it somehow which is shocking to see as he had no time to dodge and was forced to gamble with the Mokuton jutsu thus was lucky to escape with his life at the cost of a huge drop in chakra reverses as Karin stated (not sure how much). As the fight continues, it is more and more apparent just how sloppy he is becoming.

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He gets hit this time by the arrow but not before being able to form the seals thus he survived once more. This is the last one for now and all together he has escaped death six times (with the exception of two out of the six; his arm was severed and would have eventually led to death via exsanguination).

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Here we have Karin stating that his chakra took another dip and that the tech must pose a lot of risk to him (Izanagi). Then she remembers when he released the tech. The reason why? It was due to Sasuke being sealed which he felt confident enough to finish him and in the process conserve the rest of his chakra which obviously meant it was depleting.

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Madara is seen quietly pondering to himself something very interesting. He begins to recognize the forbidden Izanagi and yet it seemingly appeared as if he wasn't completely informed of this technique. Chotto, this is weird because if you would expect someone to have this tech it would have been none other than Madara. In my opinion this seems illogical for him to possess very little info but Danzou who supposedly isn't even an Uchiha, uses this tech. He says that all of those Sharingan are related so then is it only requiring numerous Sharingan? With or without Mangekyou? How long ago did this forbidden tech originate? Madara only appears as if he's heard about it but not entirely and no access to it either. Is it because of a possible multiple Sharingan requirement? If indeed, he had his chance when he and Itachi commuted the slaughter so why not then? In my opinion, it could have been a legend of some sort or was hidden so well by the Uchiha's ancestors that not even Madara was able to uncover. He probably heard of the forbidden tech Izanagi and what it had to offer like for example when activated, enables the user to survive a certain amount of fatalities, maybe even an immortal tech but didn't know the requirements and realized by observing Danzou. Is Izanagi a technique that simply gives you extra lives or is there more to it like offense rather than just simply defense? If indeed this is, why hasn't Danzou already acted upon it a few chapters ago and finished Sasuke off, ne?

So in conclusion, there are too many questions and a minority of answers lol I can't wait for next week's chapter so maybe we will get a little more informed. These are all my theories and I welcome anyone who may have their own or would like to discuss any of mine.​

 

[En4G4G3WiThR4G3]

I think we've been seeing izanagi for a while, i noticed how when Danzo kept dying it obviously wasnt a clone, cause you didnt see the "poof" there was blood etc that made it look like he was actually dead, i noticed when sasuke and itachi first fought in that cave Itachi did the same thing, also in teh anime,and it wasnt a genjutsu, so i think izanagi give the user the power to reincarnate himself, so to speak, but iunno

 

[Lord Hokage]

Sasuke is pitiful compared to Danzo, I laugh that this fight has even gone on this long. Danzo could have easily killed that little bug by now.​

 

[En4G4G3WiThR4G3]

wow a fanboy, they just come out of nowhere...

 

[Last Arcanum]

Sasuke is pitiful compared to Danzo, I laugh that this fight has even gone on this long. Danzo could have easily killed that little bug by now.​

I understand that Danzo is obviously your favorite character but that doesn't mean that you should underestimate Sasuke. Danzo's Izanagi is the only reason that he is still alive, without it I'm pretty sure he would've died. I say this because as soon as he deactivated it and Sasuke unleashed his full Susanoo he had to pull back and desperately used a Mokuton as an attempt to avoid a fatal blow. As Kuroi said, Danzo commented that he "somehow" evaded it by throwing off the trajectory of the arrow which means that he isn't as godly as you think. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not by any means trying to "step" on Danzo nor trying to say that Sasuke is god but rather trying to get you to be more open about what is currently happening in this fight. Danzo underestimated Sasuke by deactivating Izanagi and almost died if it wasn't for clever quick thinking so I think you should reconsider what you've just said.

On Topic: Interesting thread as usual and I agree with a lot of what you posted Kuroi. I think that until the next chapter we can't be certain but what you posted has a lot of merrit.​

 

[Lord Hokage]

wow a fanboy, they just come out of nowhere...

I'm a fan-man if anything. And it's it ironic that I came out of nowhere. Remind you of somebody? A certain Hokage?​

I understand that Danzo is obviously your favorite character but that doesn't mean that you should underestimate Sasuke. Danzo's Izanagi is the only reason that he is still alive, without it I'm pretty sure he would've died. I say this because as soon as he deactivated it and Sasuke unleashed his full Susanoo he had to pull back and desperately used a Mokuton as an attempt to avoid a fatal blow. As Kuroi said, Danzo commented that he "somehow" evaded it by throwing off the trajectory of the arrow which means that he isn't as godly as you think. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not by any means trying to "step" on Danzo nor trying to say that Sasuke is god but rather trying to get you to be more open about what is currently happening in this fight. Danzo underestimated Sasuke by deactivating Izanagi and almost died if it wasn't for clever quick thinking so I think you should reconsider what you've just said.

On Topic: Interesting thread as usual and I agree with a lot of what you posted Kuroi. I think that until the next chapter we can't be certain but what you posted has a lot of merrit.​

But that's just it. It's true Danzo has underestimated him but Sasuke has done everything that he can just to keep up with a Danzo that isn't intent on killing him what so ever. Sasuke wants to kill Danzo and he ends up having to be the one begging for mercy.If Danzo came into this fight at the state of mind Sasuke has, surely he would have killed him.​

 

[Regulus]

I think Madara knows how to use Izanagi, this reason i beleive so is his left eye. Whenever Danzo "dies" one of his sharingans close then he is reanimated. Well, Madara probally figured decided to use this jutsu and sacrifice his sharingan to live after his fight with Hashirama, the reason he appears so weak now is because he used it after his body was weakened and probally couldn't use it to the full extent. Well anyways this is just a theory.

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

Sasuke is pitiful compared to Danzo, I laugh that this fight has even gone on this long. Danzo could have easily killed that little bug by now.​

Okay, first off you are biased. This fight has gone on so long because Danzou is aparently having trouble with Sasuke. Izanagi seems like some sort of immortality jutsu and should be used in a limited manner and thus giving you the opportunity to eliminate your opponent. Although, Danzou has tried and failed to kill him so he might have an impenetrable defense but it uses chakra which is running out for him as the battle continues. This is not a biased opinion just what I am observing from this ongoing fight. I am also not saying that Danzou will be defeated/killed but it is taking him a long time to kill off Sasuke, in other words it is posing difficult to do so. Sasuke on the other hand isn't doing all that well on his part because he has used chakra and his body is feeling the strain of Susano'o so it could be anybodies win. You are also off topic, my thread was not at all to discuss who would win but strictly Danzou's Izanagi so please leave if you can't stay to the topic at hand.

But that's just it. It's true Danzo has underestimated him but Sasuke has done everything that he can just to keep up with a Danzo that isn't intent on killing him what so ever. Sasuke wants to kill Danzo and he ends up having to be the one begging for mercy.If Danzo came into this fight at the state of mind Sasuke has, surely he would have killed him.​

Sasuke still hasn't used his Ka/Raiton or Enton. You quoted "with a Danzo that isn't intent on killing him what so ever." take a look below:

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Here we have Danzou releasing Izanagi because Sasuke is caught by his juin, he then reaches for Sasuke's chokutou and...

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holds it to his throat.

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Though, before he could give the final deadly strike, Sasuke's completed Susano'o appears forcing Danzou to retreat, ne? If that doesn't look like the old man wanted to kill him, then there isn't anybody more blind then someone who doesn't want to see. While on this topic haven't you forgotton that he has already tried to kill him when Sai was sent on that assassination mission it was to eliminate Sasuke. Now, you're entitled to your opinions but you did phrase your words as if they were fact which they aren't as of yet.

On Topic: Interesting thread as usual and I agree with a lot of what you posted Kuroi. I think that until the next chapter we can't be certain but what you posted has a lot of merrit.​

Domo arigatou Juuken for being a good friend as well for having my back. I know this was just my theories and I don't side with any of it as they are just possibilities.

I think Madara knows how to use Izanagi, this reason i beleive so is his left eye. Whenever Danzo "dies" one of his sharingans close then he is reanimated. Well, Madara probally figured decided to use this jutsu and sacrifice his sharingan to live after his fight with Hashirama, the reason he appears so weak now is because he used it after his body was weakened and probally couldn't use it to the full extent. Well anyways this is just a theory.

That can also be possible but I see a hole in your theory. It is how Madara quotes that all of those Sharingan are related to this technique so when did Madara get his hand on so many Sharingan, if the one who took them is Daznou after the massacre? From what I've observed, it seems that Madara wasn't too familiar with it hence how it took him this long to realize.​

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[Danzou]

My Izanagi is an amazing technique...You will see.

 

[zabuzamistboy]

Lol madara isn't going to let it end
that easy. I hope the sith-hokage
gets what he deserve's

:hypertobi::sasuke:

 

[Lord Hokage]

Okay, first off you are biased. This fight has gone on so long because Danzou is aparently having trouble with Sasuke. Izanagi seems like some sort of immortality jutsu and should be used in a limited manner and thus giving you the opportunity to eliminate your opponent. Although, Danzou has tried and failed to kill him so he might have an impenetrable defense but it uses chakra which is running out for him as the battle continues. This is not a biased opinion just what I am observing from this ongoing fight. I am also not saying that Danzou will be defeated/killed but it is taking him a long time to kill off Sasuke, in other words it is posing difficult to do so. Sasuke on the other hand isn't doing all that well on his part because he has used chakra and his body is feeling the strain of Susano'o so it could be anybodies win. You are also off topic, my thread was not at all to discuss who would win but strictly Danzou's Izanagi so please leave if you can't stay to the topic at hand.



Sasuke still hasn't used his Ka/Raiton or Enton. You quoted "with a Danzo that isn't intent on killing him what so ever." take a look below:

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Here we have Danzou releasing Izanagi because Sasuke is caught by his juin, he then reaches for Sasuke's chokutou and...

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holds it to his throat.

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Though, before he could give the final deadly strike, Sasuke's completed Susano'o appears forcing Danzou to retreat, ne? If that doesn't look like the old man wanted to kill him, then there isn't anybody more blind then someone who doesn't want to see. While on this topic haven't you forgotton that he has already tried to kill him when Sai was sent on that assassination mission it was to eliminate Sasuke. Now, you're entitled to your opinions but you did phrase your words as if they were fact which they aren't as of yet.



Domo arigatou Juuken for being a good friend as well for having my back. I know this was just my theories and I don't side with any of it as they are just possibilities.



That can also be possible but I see a hole in your theory. It is how Madara quotes that all of those Sharingan are related to this technique so when did Madara get his hand on so many Sharingan, if the one who took them is Daznou after the massacre? From what I've observed, it seems that Madara wasn't too familiar with it hence how it took him this long to realize.​

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Your over thinking the small things. Why would Danzo be building upon his techniques? Going from the weakest to the strongest? The point is if he came into the match intent of killing Sasuke quickly he would have done it already. Like if Danzo thought Sasuke was as powerful as...like Sarutobi. He would have came in, used Sasuke's ill knowledge of himself against him, killing him with a powerful technique. Re-read the fight and watch how Danzo is toying with Sasuke. It's an obvious observation.​

 

[Regulus]

Your over thinking the small things. Why would Danzo be building upon his techniques? Going from the weakest to the strongest? The point is if he came into the match intent of killing Sasuke quickly he would have done it already. Like if Danzo thought Sasuke was as powerful as...like Sarutobi. He would have came in, used Sasuke's ill knowledge of himself against him, killing him with a powerful technique. Re-read the fight and watch how Danzo is toying with Sasuke. It's an obvious observation.​

IMO Danzo is toying with Sasuke because he feels he could beat Sasuke at any time

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

Your over thinking the small things. Why would Danzo be building upon his techniques? Going from the weakest to the strongest? The point is if he came into the match intent of killing Sasuke quickly he would have done it already. Like if Danzo thought Sasuke was as powerful as...like Sarutobi. He would have came in, used Sasuke's ill knowledge of himself against him, killing him with a powerful technique. Re-read the fight and watch how Danzo is toying with Sasuke. It's an obvious observation.​

Well, I will admit in the beginning of the fight he wasn't taking Sasuke seriously and toyed with his emotions but he did finally have the intention when he sealed him before he could slash his neck. Although, Sasuke's completed Suasno'o appears and began to give him trouble from then on. He had to waste a huge amount of chakra to activate the Mokuton jutsu which he somehow evaded like he himself stated because he hadn't the time to re-activate Izanagi. This technique so far doesn't seem like it has any offensive abilities as he has only used it to escape fatal blows (defensive). Putting all games aside, Danzou has become serious and as long as Sasuke can exhaust Danzou's chakra via Izanagi he will have to either reveal Izanagi's offensive qualities or use something that can counter/overcome Susano'o or else he is going to run out of chakra. Sasuke will as well as they both have already wasted huge amounts out of their reserves so I can't say how much longer the fight can last.

IMO Danzo is toying with Sasuke because he feels he could beat Sasuke at any time

Like I've said to Lord Hokage above, that is true with the exception of he isn't toying with him any longer and is taking Sasuke seriously.​