Danzo's Reverse Four Seal [Exploit]

[BlacLord™]

are those translations from wiki?

It's correct.

Although. it's dubbed as the antipode to the Four Symbols Seal. Because with the aforementioned, it's used to draw out power from a sealed entity whereas Reverse Four Symbols Seal is used to draw in and lock away power.

 

[Demonic.]

Yep the same tired Sasuke who was getting recovered by Karin and attempt to blitz Danzo as his last move. Then later was able to face full healthy Kakashi on his way.

But nice way trying to get my attention by going off topic.

1) wasn't trying to get your attention. Pointing out the technique shouldn't be overrated.

2) I did get your attention since you took the time to reply

 

[Brother Numpsay]

seal=/=suppressing

Its the same process as Kakashi using his head gear to cover his Sharingan. So still fail to see what this applies.

no, the eye was useless til sasuke took them into his body, my logic is supported by manga

Dude what are you talking about here?

yes they do, w/ the manga logic I have witnessed

When did you witness that Reverse Seal "have effectively been put back in the jar''" for Sharingans?

then your flawed premise assumes that danzo actually died/lost soul/lost life force while izanagi was activated & he was ''killed''/took heavy damage. its not true & its an obvious paradox...since its his will & chakra in play, just as it is w/ usa shishou

What do you mean "assume"? Everytime Izanagi process is over, his chakra takes a dump. Did this process happen to Hiruzen and Minato, attempting to use a variant of this seal? Did they immediately die in the first place? Death or not my premise is supported.

1) wasn't trying to get your attention. Pointing out the technique shouldn't be overrated.

2) I did get your attention since you took the time to reply

1.) And what did I say that made this particular tech overrated?
2.) When did I say I didn't?

 

[super yang]

Its the same process as Kakashi using his head gear to cover his Sharingan. So still fail to see what this applies.

no, danzo seal also prevents them from detection or being accidentally damaged in exposure. and the seal completely cuts off the eyes function/chakra as they are used 4 izanagi.

kakashi came before kishi thought about this & it remains an inconsistency, as danzo & sasuke later proved, bedrock nor clothes can stop the insight or function of the sharingan

When did you witness that Reverse Seal "have effectively been put back in the jar''" for Sharingans?

when danzo destroyed -himself- chakra & all erased from existence. fuuinjutsu...

this is fundamentally different from being stabbed by sasuke or crushed by a susano'o

What do you mean "assume"? Everytime Izanagi process is over, his chakra takes a dump. Did this process happen to Hiruzen and Minato, attempting to use a variant of this seal? Did they immediately die in the first place? Death or not my premise is supported.

1. izanagi uses danzos chakra. period. I don't know what else U want unless U clarify further

2. shiki fuujin preserves the soul, the chakra & even objects in the shinigamis belly.
ura shishou is destructive, not a preserve...

 

[Demonic.]

1.) And what did I say that made this particular tech overrated?
2.) When did I say I didn't?

I never even mentioned you or implied you did. This is a discussion thread and I pointed out the technique is featless. That's it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

no, danzo seal also prevents them from detection or being accidentally damaged in exposure. and the seal completely cuts off the eyes function/chakra as they are used 4 izanagi.

Everything I already implied bar "preventing detection" as manga doesnt support that claim[

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kakashi came before kishi thought about this & it remains an inconsistency, as danzo & sasuke later proved, bedrock nor clothes can stop the insight or function of the sharingan

If its not you being wrong it = manga inconsistency.

when danzo destroyed -himself- chakra & all erased from existence. fuuinjutsu...

Except he doesn't destroy himself.

this is fundamentally different from being stabbed by sasuke or crushed by a susano'o
1. izanagi uses danzos chakra. period. I don't know what else U want unless U clarify further

There isn't anything to clarify as I agree with this notion. But this doesn't make sense on how it stops Izanagi's priorities

2. shiki fuujin preserves the soul, the chakra & even objects in the shinigamis belly.
ura shishou is destructive, not a preserve...

Ura Shishou does the same thing in a reversal process which leads to it being use in a destructive process.

I never even mentioned you or implied you did. This is a discussion thread and I pointed out the technique is featless. That's it.

How is it featless when

1. We saw it sealed everything it touched
2. Stated to be the same effect as Four Seal
3. DB elaborating on its effect?

 

[Demonic.]

How is it featless when

1. We saw it sealed everything it touched
2. Stated to be the same effect as Four Seal
3. DB elaborating on its effect?

-Featless in the sense it failed to seal the only 2 people it ever targeted (Sasuke and Tobi).

-Sasuke evaded it by merely jumping away.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

-Featless in the sense it failed to seal the only 2 people it ever targeted (Sasuke and Tobi).

-Sasuke evaded it by merely jumping away.

So your jumping around your main point in posting in this thread so it doesn't look like your bashing. Ok got it.

 

[super yang]

Everything I already implied bar "preventing detection" as manga doesnt support that claim[

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that scan supports my claim, as Ao didn't detect the sraringans in his arm

If its not you being wrong it = manga inconsistency.

so danzo didn't use the eye thru being covered in his headwrap/sasuke thru the ground?

oh please, I have nothing to gain or lose here
I merely gave my opinion w/o even quoting ur original post...

Except he doesn't destroy himself.

yes, he clearly does. not sure how U can spin it any other way

There isn't anything to clarify as I agree with this notion. But this doesn't make sense on how it stops Izanagi's priorities

izanagi follows danzos will & chakra
sasuke never stpped danzos will & chakra
ura shishou ends danzous will & chakra
fuuinjutsu...

Ura Shishou does the same thing in a reversal process which leads to it being use in a destructive process.

...then it is not the same thing~

 

[BlacLord™]

-Featless in the sense it failed to seal the only 2 people it ever targeted (Sasuke and Tobi).

-Sasuke evaded it by merely jumping away.

To make things worse, Sasuke was physically drained.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

that scan supports my claim, as Ao didn't detect the sraringans in his arm

He isn't going to detect something thats not being used. Just like how chakra built was notice in a single eye. Plus the fact that the whole panel cut off his arm to see the whole pattern, which is different from his normal left arm.

so danzo didn't use the eye thru being covered in his headwrap/sasuke thru the ground?

Please take your time in writing what you are trying to say. Its very difficult to understand them.

yes, he clearly does. not sure how U can spin it any other way

There is no spin, nothing supports that Danzo's chakra gets sealed off. And even then Izanagi was stated that it can delete that mistake and change reality of the outcome.

izanagi follows danzos will & chakra
sasuke never stpped danzos will & chakra
ura shishou ends danzous will & chakra
fuuinjutsu...

Sure
Sure
No no evidence that ura Shishou ends Danzo's "will" that even cancel out the effects of Izanagi.
Fuinjutsu does not cancel out the casters will. Nothing supports that claim.

...then it is not the same thing~

Oh sorry. "Its not the same thing" because it starts in a reversal process. Dont understand why your reaching just to have something to disagree with.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Oh sorry. "Its not the same thing" because it starts in a reversal process. Dont understand why your reaching just to have something to disagree with.

So how exactly would you say the 4 symbols seal process works? I always assumed it too sucked in everything in the surrounding area (that the user targeted). Since the 9 tails was sealed with it, and the databook makes claim to it being usable with objects as well.

 

[super yang]

There is no spin, nothing supports that Danzo's chakra gets sealed off. And even then Izanagi was stated that it can delete that mistake and change reality of the outcome.

not sealed off ,it is used to complete the kamikaze jutsu. his chakra is fully expired, as is his body.
ura shishou destroyed reality by feats, the best izanagi did was fix injuries


no, ura shishou creates a void perimeter & literally -erases- everythinp in that spot, period.
it doesn't seal them into kamuiland or Bakus dimension/dreamland.
everything is destroyed & this is why danzos body disappears. once his chakra is expired the jutsu ends
U can play w/ words, but ''sealed into his body'' when he doesn't even leave a corpse is a blatant(as well as a classical) destruction metaphor

so this isn't -only- about Izanagi, but the jutsu that has more priority.
a fuuinjutsu...

Sure
Sure
No no evidence that ura Shishou ends Danzo's "will" that even cancel out the effects of Izanagi.
Fuinjutsu does not cancel out the casters will. Nothing supports that claim.

it is supported by the destruction, & the necessary ''used at time of death''

when you die(using a particular fuuinjutsu)& bring your enemy down w/ you, your will is ended. but that's just me talking
in narutoverse, when you use your entire/last measure of soul/chakra, U can't express your will anymore.
minato saved(sealed) some of his ''will'' in his son, danzo did the ''reverse''...

Oh sorry. "Its not the same thing" because it starts in a reversal process. Dont understand why your reaching just to have something to disagree with.

'' shiki fuujin preserves the soul, the chakra & even objects in the shinigamis belly.
ura shishou is destructive, not a preserve... ''

''reverse/ura seal'' is not that difficult a concept to grasp, imo
the opposite is where a seal normally stores things
this one destroys by feats, even if the symbolism & metaphor isn't enough 4 U

I've been repetitive...