[Discussion] Danzo wasn't behind the Kyuubi

[Typhon]

Its very simple, it doesn't fit the timeline of events. Danzo didn't get the sharingans until after the Uchiha massacre, and the Kyuubi attack is one of the things that prompted the massacre.

 

[Last Arcanum]

Its very simple, it doesn't fit the timeline of events. Danzo didn't get the sharingans until after the Uchiha massacre, and the Kyuubi attack is one of the things that prompted the massacre.

We cannot be fully certain about this. What you said is very true but we do not know how long Danzo had Mokuton. If I remember correctly Mokuton can surpress the Kyuubi and means he could have worked with Madara somehow. No matter how unlikely it is it still remains possible, no? ​

 

[zabuzamistboy]

I thought madara explained this that he was
the one, or the origanal leader controled kyuubi
because he was exiled and wanted revenge for
his people being opressed because of there power.
I think that's what i remember what was said.
huh? im not 100% sure though...

 

[twistedlink]

We was never told when Danzo got his sharingans, also the fact he has 1 in his eye socket and 10 on his arm suggests possibly he had more before.

Itachi killed the entire clan, and using izanagi appears to make them close (forever?)

I just dont think danzo wanted to bring attention to himself

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

the 4th Hokage himself told Naruto that the masked guy in Akatsuki was the one behind the fox attack so it was not Danzou

 

[Typhon]

We cannot be fully certain about this. What you said is very true but we do not know how long Danzo had Mokuton. If I remember correctly Mokuton can surpress the Kyuubi and means he could have worked with Madara somehow. No matter how unlikely it is it still remains possible, no? ​

But Madara seemed surprised to see that Danzo had the ability to use Mokuton, and since it was an inner thought he had theres no reason to think he was just acting.

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[twistedlink]

the 4th Hokage himself told Naruto that the masked guy in Akatsuki was the one behind the fox attack so it was not Danzou

Danzou has same hair and same sharingan eye (his right)

All danzou has to do is wear a mask same as tobis and he'd be the spit of him.

Might have been danzo setting tobi up.

I mean come on, tobi needed the 9tails to be sealed anyway, for his moons eye plan, why would he randomly attack Konoha and not just that but why not go for Uchiha clan as soon as he arrived??

 

[Typhon]

Danzou has same hair and same sharingan eye (his right)

All danzou has to do is wear a mask same as tobis and he'd be the spit of him.

Might have been danzo setting tobi up.

I mean come on, tobi needed the 9tails to be sealed anyway, for his moons eye plan, why would he randomly attack Konoha and not just that but why not go for Uchiha clan as soon as he arrived??

Danzo got his right eye from Shisui, who wasn't killed until after the Kyuubi attack.

 

[twistedlink]

Danzo got his right eye from Shisui, who wasn't killed until after the Kyuubi attack.

Yes, danzos eye NOW was from shisui, eye transplants can be done countless times in narutoverse it seems, plus the eyes on the arm work just as well it seems.

 

[twistedlink]

I mean, put it this way, personally it was tobi, if however a chapter is released saying it was danzou-it wouldnt surprise me greatly as it would fit quite nicely.

 

[KASTAWAY]

Its very simple, it doesn't fit the timeline of events. Danzo didn't get the sharingans until after the Uchiha massacre, and the Kyuubi attack is one of the things that prompted the massacre.

I am sorry, but it does fit the time line. from what we know about the story. Danzo has both the sharingan and the 1st Hokage's powers. it is possible to control the 9tails with the 1st DNA. Madara did not even put together Danzo using the 9tails until madana saw Danzo use the 1st ability. Yes the Kyuubi prompted the attack, Danzo was the reason the uchiha were not trusted. Danzo controlled Root, his ninja spy on the interworkings of the village and other villages without the Hokage even knowing or being able to stop it, Danzo helped push the Uchiha over the edge to plan rebal. Danzo is an elder 1 of 3 advisors to the Hokage. Danzo had wanted power for decades and has tried before to gain that power. 1st time fight 3rd for Hokage position and lost his arm, 2nd Pain fight hoping the village would be destroyed and the Hokage killed because naruto was away. And i feel he is the reason the 4th is dead.

 

[Perkele311]

I think the 4th could have landed a hit on Danzo but he complained about not being able to hit "the guy in the mask" It sounds alot like Madara's technique.

 

[Zenryoku]

such a pointless thread we already know madara is behind the attack so why make the thread ?

 

[twistedlink]

I think the 4th could have landed a hit on Danzo but he complained about not being able to hit "the guy in the mask" It sounds alot like Madara's technique.

Actually he said "He saw through all of my attacks"

Meaning he knew how they worked and countered them accordingly, never did he mention his attacks going physically through him.

 

[KASTAWAY]

actually he said "he saw through all of my attacks"

meaning he knew how they worked and countered them accordingly, never did he mention his attacks going physically through him.

you are rght, it was just the 9tails no other fighter was there, so we don't know it was madana, we only know madana attack the village in person with the 9tails, that why i think minto feels its madana.

 

[Typhon]

such a pointless thread we already know madara is behind the attack so why make the thread ?

I made the thread because in multiple threads since the last chapter people have thought of the idea that Danzo had controlled the Kyuubi during the attack instead of Madara. I made the thread in order to clear it up that it is chronologically impossible that Danzo had controlled the Kyuubi.

 

[Sharpism]

There could be reasons WHY he was behind the massacre. If he got Itachi to massacre the Uchiha he could have used that to get Sharingan. [Thus giving him a lot of extra strength.]

But having the Uchiha a part of Konoha was very important. I don't think he was behind it.

 

[KASTAWAY]

I made the thread because in multiple threads since the last chapter people have thought of the idea that Danzo had controlled the Kyuubi during the attack instead of Madara. I made the thread in order to clear it up that it is chronologically impossible that Danzo had controlled the Kyuubi.

please explain how its a chronologically impossible. The 4th was kakashi teacher, kakashi and yamato are about the same age if not the same age, yamato was a sucessful experiment of Oro with the DNA of the 1st Hokage, during the time of the attack Minato was the Hokage, when Minato was kakashi teacher, we had the 3rd Hokage, danzo fought the 3rd for the position of Hokage and lost.

i said all this to show that what i belief's may be wrong but it does fit the time-line and is possible. IN order for Danzo to be able to live with the 1st DNA inside him Oro's research had to be complete because yamato lived, once yamato was completed IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ORO TO HAVE DONE THE EXPERIMENT ON DANZO ONCE HE KNOW HE WOULD LIVE.

it also can be explained like this, First Danzo got the power of the 1st but found it was not all he needed, he learned of the true power of the Sharingan, wanted the power for himself so he set up the clan(not framed its more like exciting a riot) for he could take the Shanrangan to complete his power.

the time-line adds up,

 

[Blizzard589]

please explain how its a chronologically impossible. The 4th was kakashi teacher, kakashi and yamato are about the same age if not the same age, yamato was a sucessful experiment of Oro with the DNA of the 1st Hokage, during the time of the attack Minato was the Hokage, when Minato was kakashi teacher, we had the 3rd Hokage, danzo fought the 3rd for the position of Hokage and lost.

i said all this to show that what i belief's may be wrong but it does fit the time-line and is possible. IN order for Danzo to be able to live with the 1st DNA inside him Oro's research had to be complete because yamato lived, once yamato was completed IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ORO TO HAVE DONE THE EXPERIMENT ON DANZO ONCE HE KNOW HE WOULD LIVE.

it also can be explained like this, First Danzo got the power of the 1st but found it was not all he needed, he learned of the true power of the Sharingan, wanted the power for himself so he set up the clan(not framed its more like exciting a riot) for he could take the Shanrangan to complete his power.

the time-line adds up,

I don't understand how this proves anything. Kyuubi would have mentioned Danzo. Madara would not have been surprised by Danzo's abilities.

Orochimaru did not know Tenzo (aka Yamato) had survived hence his surprise here:

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[KASTAWAY]

I don't understand how this proves anything. Kyuubi would have mentioned Danzo. Madara would not have been surprised by Danzo's abilities.

Orochimaru did not know Tenzo (aka Yamato) had survived hence his surprise here:

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because of the timat no time did i say this proves anything, but that it was possible and within the time line. the Kyuubi has not given any true information to Naruto so i don't understand how you can use "the kyuubi would have mentioned Danzo. Why would MadaRa not be surprised, how would Madara have prior knowlegde of Danzo skills.

Orochimaru was forced to leave the village shortly after, when he was discovered by the 3rd, so it is possible for Danzo to have taken his research.