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No i'm calling it how it is. Danzo rapes,and not only would itachi loss in truth he wouldn't have even lasted as long as sasuke. Itachi no of of sensing danzo when he reappears leaving open for some many surprise attacks that its not even funny,plus you danzo has beefed up stamina due to hashiramas cells,so itachi is definitely is losing a stamina battle. By the time itachi is done getting a few good attacks in he would have been tired himself out while danzo would still have not only stamina to spare but sharingan on back for izanagi. The thing that fucks itachi so badly in a battle like this is that izanagi can be used to counter pretty much anything,that combined with the same battle smarts danzo used against sasuke,itachi ain't lasting long lololol. This battle may sound big but its really not all things considered..Itachi's just lucky to have a little bit of spot light because danzo is involved in the battle.
What about how Sasuke tricked him into a genjutsu?

Danzo himself knows Sasuke is weaker than Itachi in that department yet he was caught twice in a weaker illusion.
Why do you think he cant pull the same?
 

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What about how Sasuke tricked him into a genjutsu?

Danzo himself knows Sasuke is weaker than Itachi in that department yet he was caught twice in a weaker illusion.
Why do you think he cant pull the same?
Like you said in terms of genjutsu sasuke was less skilled but in reality he was stronger in everything else,however even sasuke needed to be well prepared which is why karin was around. She played a lot more of a role in sasukes victory then people think, Plus you do have't to also remember that sasuke had to weaken danzo down to the point where he could even pull something like that off,and one of the only reasons he made it to that point is because of karin and the fact that danzo had already used kotoamatsukami before their battle. Hell, even if sasuke was over then verge of death he still had obito their to bail him out. Itachi would have none of these things. Therefore he would be fighting danzo just to suffer a humiliating defeat.
 

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Like you said in terms of genjutsu sasuke was less skilled but in reality he was stronger in everything else,however even sasuke needed to be well prepared which is why karin was around. She played a lot more of a role in sasukes victory then people think, Plus you do have't to also remember that sasuke had to weaken danzo down to the point where he could even pull something like that off,and one of the only reasons he made it to that point is because of karin and the fact that danzo had already used kotoamatsukami before their battle. Hell, even if sasuke was over then verge of death he still had obito their to bail him out. Itachi would have none of these things. Therefore he would be fighting danzo just to suffer a humiliating defeat.
No Sasuke successfully put him in genjutsu when he was at full strength.

Danzo broke that only because he placed him in a curse bind prior to him placing him in a genjutsu.
 

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No Sasuke successfully put him in genjutsu when he was at full strength.

Danzo broke that only because he placed him in a curse bind prior to him placing him in a genjutsu.
No he wasn't at full power sasuke had placed one of the eyes under a genjutsu when danzo got down to a certain number of sharingans. And if danzo were at full strength sasuke would have loss due to kotoamatsukami. Did you forget danzo had already used it on mifune lololol?
 
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No he wasn't at full power sasuke had placed one of the eyes under a genjutsu when danzo got down to a certain number of sharingans. And if danzo were at full strength sasuke would have loss due to kotoamatsukami. Did you forget danzo had already used it on mifune lololol?
By full power I mean he wasnt exhausted badly like later. He complimented him on the genjutsu also.
 

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By full power I mean he wasnt exhausted badly like later. He complimented him on the genjutsu also.
What I mean when i say full power is he shows up to the fight with all of his abilities such as kotoamatsukami as usable options and even though his body was exhausted later on in the battle he would have it to call forth as a last resort at anytime he wanted to. That's what mean by full power. Yeah,sure he complimented him but technically speaking sasuke died the first time danzo used izanagi at the beginning of the battle. So take what you can get i guess lol.
 

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What I mean when i say full power is he shows up to the fight with all of his abilities such as kotoamatsukami as usable options and even though his body was exhausted later on in the battle he would have it to call forth as a last resort at anytime he wanted to. That's what mean by full power. Yeah,sure he complimented him but technically speaking sasuke died the first time danzo used izanagi at the beginning of the battle. So take what you can get i guess lol.
But the difference is, Itachi is a trickster. Every person he has fought has looked into his eyes. Even a person he has known throughout the Anbu days like kakashi was instantly caught. The mere fact that even in part 2 he looked at itachi's eyes prove that "dont look in his eyes" doesnt work against him.


Also dont you think its ironic that he warned team7 not to look in his eyes yet he himself got caught?

If no eye contact doesnt work, he'll be caught.
 

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But the difference is, Itachi is a trickster. Every person he has fought has looked into his eyes. Even a person he has known throughout the Anbu days like kakashi was instantly caught. The mere fact that even in part 2 he looked at itachi's eyes prove that "dont look in his eyes" doesnt work against him.


Also dont you think its ironic that he warned team7 not to look in his eyes yet he himself got caught?

If no eye contact doesnt work, he'll be caught.
Doesn't matter if he gets caught. Shisui getting rekted by danzo proved that that izanagi counters even genjutsus. And even so danzo is shrewd like he was against sasuke, despite never fighting him he knew he would eventually be tempted to use a genjutsu just because he's a uchiha and prepared for it. Team 7 huh? Was danzo on team 7? I don't think so...Ya see comparing danzo and team 7 is like comparing day and night lol. You have't to realized from shisui all the way up to sasuke,every time danzo got caught in a genjutsu he was able to counter it or had a back up plan in place for a follow up, it didn't even matter if he were hit with it or not, a couple of inexperienced kids that didn't know what they were doing nor had the means to actually fight against itachi is hardily a good example lol. How so? Every time itachi put someone in a genjutsu his eyes were ALWAYS looked at first. Don't believe me go look. All it is,is more hype lolololol. Kakashi got caught with (tsukiyomi), not a normal genjutsu, those aren't a problem for him to counter, and had that bonehead schmuck stayed on his toes like he does in all his battles he would have been prepared to even counter that. That guy... Anyone who..danzo stays well prepared, having a back up plan in place is second nature for a guy like him so the fact that itachi's a "trickster" is hardily a problem. Preparation>Tricks anyday.
 

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Doesn't matter if he gets caught. Shisui getting rekted by danzo proved that that izanagi counters even genjutsus. And even so danzo is shrewd like he was against sasuke, despite never fighting him he knew he would eventually be tempted to use a genjutsu just because he's a uchiha and prepared for it. Team 7 huh? Was danzo on team 7? I don't think so...Ya see comparing danzo and team 7 is like comparing day and night lol. You have't to realized from shisui all the way up to sasuke,every time danzo got caught in a genjutsu he was able to counter it or had a back up plan in place for a follow up, it didn't even matter if he were hit with it or not, a couple of inexperienced kids that didn't know what they were doing nor had the means to actually fight against itachi is hardily a good example lol. How so? Every time itachi put someone in a genjutsu his eyes were ALWAYS looked at first. Don't believe me go look. All it is,is more hype lolololol. Kakashi got caught with (tsukiyomi), not a normal genjutsu, those aren't a problem for him to counter, and had that bonehead schmuck stayed on his toes like he does in all his battles he would have been prepared to even counter that. That guy... Anyone who..danzo stays well prepared, having a back up plan in place is second nature for a guy like him so the fact that itachi's a "trickster" is hardily a problem. Preparation>Tricks anyday.
The director went out of his way to prove unmaintaining eye contact with itachi is nigh impossible.

The best example'd be Bee. He knew itachi's reputation and knew about Sharingans, even Mangekyou. Yet was he caught? Yes. Its just that he uses speed genjutsu simultaneously while multitasking with his kunais. Such as what forewent in Bees fight. Izanagi breaking genjutsu might be possible yes but how would he break it if he doesnt know hes in one? Manga proved his genjutsu is undetectable anti-sensor type(Ao's words it cannot be sensed by any type of sensor method) so how will he see through it? Also I'd like you to keep in mind sensing is not alone the solution. Orochimaru knew he was in a genjutsu yet he could not break it. He was in awe of his ocular power. Thats how powerful it is. He can easily make him feel swords piercing through his vital organs to debunk him from doing anything from resisting it. Also what makes it even scary is that, the victim feels the genjutsu is real. Thats the thing they feel its affecting thier body as in a physical type of injury. How will he break such a limitless ounce of possibilities oriented power trick like powerful genjutsu of this type? Its nigh impossible as weve seen in the Manga. Remember itachi putting kakashi in flames? Imagine that was real. How'd he escape? Keep in mind he did not have killing intent VS team 7 because he was an ally (Databook truth confirmation). What could he have done against a killing intent itachi? He could have done literally nothing. Thats right literally nothing would be the best keyword. How'd you do anything in an illusionical realm where youve no control over your body not just your mind? How'd someone survive a burning cauldron of flames in an area where no sort of resistance is provided? No they cant do anything. Add this with the trickster mentality of itachi. The shinden proves he has all sorts of technique knowledge and its backed up by the manga(him knowing NE plus Ruchido plus Izanagi) so he would keep away from such techniques. He has the ability to manipulate people by reading thier insecurities which foreshadow the part he knows a lot about human psychology. He could keep attacking danzo and read his body patterns to predict his line of attack. Then cast a genjutsu when hes at his most nonwary state. In the heat of battle its impossible even for a skilled byakugan user to look precisely at tenketsu let alone avoid eye contact continuously over a longer period of time. Mokuton cursed seals izanagi kunai jutsu speed durability power intellect perception dexterity are all useless VS Itachi because genjutsu bypasses all defenses. No amount of durability is saving one from Genjutsu. Its way too hax. I personally think its too hax to compete against.
 

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The director went out of his way to prove unmaintaining eye contact with itachi is nigh impossible.

The best example'd be Bee. He knew itachi's reputation and knew about Sharingans, even Mangekyou. Yet was he caught? Yes. Its just that he uses speed genjutsu simultaneously while multitasking with his kunais. Such as what forewent in Bees fight. Izanagi breaking genjutsu might be possible yes but how would he break it if he doesnt know hes in one? Manga proved his genjutsu is undetectable anti-sensor type(Ao's words it cannot be sensed by any type of sensor method) so how will he see through it? Also I'd like you to keep in mind sensing is not alone the solution. Orochimaru knew he was in a genjutsu yet he could not break it. He was in awe of his ocular power. Thats how powerful it is. He can easily make him feel swords piercing through his vital organs to debunk him from doing anything from resisting it. Also what makes it even scary is that, the victim feels the genjutsu is real. Thats the thing they feel its affecting thier body as in a physical type of injury. How will he break such a limitless ounce of possibilities oriented power trick like powerful genjutsu of this type? Its nigh impossible as weve seen in the Manga. Remember itachi putting kakashi in flames? Imagine that was real. How'd he escape? Keep in mind he did not have killing intent VS team 7 because he was an ally (Databook truth confirmation). What could he have done against a killing intent itachi? He could have done literally nothing. Thats right literally nothing would be the best keyword. How'd you do anything in an illusionical realm where youve no control over your body not just your mind? How'd someone survive a burning cauldron of flames in an area where no sort of resistance is provided? No they cant do anything. Add this with the trickster mentality of itachi. The shinden proves he has all sorts of technique knowledge and its backed up by the manga(him knowing NE plus Ruchido plus Izanagi) so he would keep away from such techniques. He has the ability to manipulate people by reading thier insecurities which foreshadow the part he knows a lot about human psychology. He could keep attacking danzo and read his body patterns to predict his line of attack. Then cast a genjutsu when hes at his most nonwary state. In the heat of battle its impossible even for a skilled byakugan user to look precisely at tenketsu let alone avoid eye contact continuously over a longer period of time. Mokuton cursed seals izanagi kunai jutsu speed durability power intellect perception dexterity are all useless VS Itachi because genjutsu bypasses all defenses. No amount of durability is saving one from Genjutsu. Its way too hax. I personally think its too hax to compete against.
Dude, there’s nothing Danzo could do to possibly hurt Itachi. Especially if Orochimaru couldn’t hurt Itachi. Itachi > Past Oro > Danzo.
 

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The director went out of his way to prove unmaintaining eye contact with itachi is nigh impossible.

The best example'd be Bee. He knew itachi's reputation and knew about Sharingans, even Mangekyou. Yet was he caught? Yes. Its just that he uses speed genjutsu simultaneously while multitasking with his kunais. Such as what forewent in Bees fight. Izanagi breaking genjutsu might be possible yes but how would he break it if he doesnt know hes in one? Manga proved his genjutsu is undetectable anti-sensor type(Ao's words it cannot be sensed by any type of sensor method) so how will he see through it? Also I'd like you to keep in mind sensing is not alone the solution. Orochimaru knew he was in a genjutsu yet he could not break it. He was in awe of his ocular power. Thats how powerful it is. He can easily make him feel swords piercing through his vital organs to debunk him from doing anything from resisting it. Also what makes it even scary is that, the victim feels the genjutsu is real. Thats the thing they feel its affecting thier body as in a physical type of injury. How will he break such a limitless ounce of possibilities oriented power trick like powerful genjutsu of this type? Its nigh impossible as weve seen in the Manga. Remember itachi putting kakashi in flames? Imagine that was real. How'd he escape? Keep in mind he did not have killing intent VS team 7 because he was an ally (Databook truth confirmation). What could he have done against a killing intent itachi? He could have done literally nothing. Thats right literally nothing would be the best keyword. How'd you do anything in an illusionical realm where youve no control over your body not just your mind? How'd someone survive a burning cauldron of flames in an area where no sort of resistance is provided? No they cant do anything. Add this with the trickster mentality of itachi. The shinden proves he has all sorts of technique knowledge and its backed up by the manga(him knowing NE plus Ruchido plus Izanagi) so he would keep away from such techniques. He has the ability to manipulate people by reading thier insecurities which foreshadow the part he knows a lot about human psychology. He could keep attacking danzo and read his body patterns to predict his line of attack. Then cast a genjutsu when hes at his most nonwary state. In the heat of battle its impossible even for a skilled byakugan user to look precisely at tenketsu let alone avoid eye contact continuously over a longer period of time. Mokuton cursed seals izanagi kunai jutsu speed durability power intellect perception dexterity are all useless VS Itachi because genjutsu bypasses all defenses. No amount of durability is saving one from Genjutsu. Its way too hax. I personally think its too hax to compete against.
And even when bee was caught itachi said "don't look directly into my eyes"meaning the reason bee was caught in the first place was because he what? He looked into his eyes.But here's the thing that you're not paying to much attention to. Its not rather or not one can't be caught by itachi's genjutsu's,because we already know most people CAN be caught by them, its if you're prepared for it or not, and you used some perfect examples. We'll start with bee. Why would bee need to worry about being caught by itachis genjutsus in the first place when he knows he has the means simply break them? Itachi could have thrown any genjutsu at bee that he wanted to and bee could have broken and proceeded with the fight like their was no tomorrow, after all bee had broken simple genjutsus, AND mangekyou genjutsus. He's always PREPARED. Kakashi,another good example. He wasn't worried about had the genjutsu had been real or not, Why? because he had PREPARED already, played everything out accordingly, and was successful when he set a shadow clone in place to FOOL yes, fool itachi. Kakashi actually proved that it wasn't all that hard to if you just stayed on your toes, PREPARED,and stayed focused. Orochimaru COULD have broke itachi's genjutsu,and was on the verge of doing so until itachi cut off his hand. I must say itachi moved fast as hell lol. Its like he knew if orochimaru would have broke out of that genjutsu he would have beat itachi like red head step child lol. What you should have got from ao's words that itachi genjutsu's were capable of being placed outside the range of weaker sensor type ninja. Itachi would have instantly been detected if he tried that on a sensor like tobirama who has the ability to sense COUNTRIES away. Itachis's genjutsus are outclassed by sensors of that caliber. I find it funny that despite the story saying at itachi has NEVER gone toe to toe with a sensory type ninja lol. You know why? because their a achelies heel to his genjutsu prowess. In fact that the only time itachi's genjutsus are a actual threat to any sensor is if their unaware of him. If they are aware of him countering his genjutsu's would be a simple task due to being able to sense his chakra. But back to the matter at hand even though danzo can be caught in a genjutsu none of those genjutsus would be all that effective and they damn sure wouldn't make it up to the point where they're a deciding factor. Allow me to explain...LOL i've always wanted to say that lololol.. Exhibit A, shisui. He uses a genjutsu on danzo,gets beat up,and loses a eye, and that was directly in front of him, the main reason why because no matter how hard they try tried rather it be shisui,itachi, or sasuke the can't detect where danzo will reappear after he uses izanag. So did a genjustu really do him any favors? I thought genjutsus were suppose to be hax? Lololol. Exhibit B sasuke. He uses a genjutsu with itachi in it to psyche danzo out,runs into a trap, AND ends up almost dying because danzo was PREPARED for it. Once again...played no favors..,So its not the fact the you get caught in the genjutsu its if you're prepared to deal with it or not and most the people you just named kakashi,bee,and danzo have that in spades by either having a source of power strong enough to break it, having the means to bypass and counter it, avoiding it by knowing its coming,obscuring the sharingans vision, or simply PREPARING ahead of time and not getting caught at all by using techniques sharingan can't see through and have no effect on.. Just to name a few,the list goes on.. Theirs a endless number of ways that the characters you named can get pass itachis genjutsus and rekt him lolololol. Once you get pass itachis genjutsus and force him to actually fight depending on your level of skill he ain't that hard to beat. Knowing itachi the moment he realizes hes out of his league he'll just run away anyway.If you know what to do against itachi he's nothing special. And the story has also depicted some other ways to bypass his genjutsu prowess but really it all comes down to you staying PREPARED lol.
 
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And even when bee was caught itachi said "don't look directly into my eyes"meaning the reason bee was caught in the first place was because he what? He looked into his eyes.But here's the thing that you're not paying to much attention to. Its not rather or not one can't be caught by itachi's genjutsu's,because we already know most people CAN be caught by them, its if you're prepared for it or not, and you used some perfect examples. Were start with bee. Why would bee need to worry about being caught by itachis genjutsus in the first place when he knows he has the means simply break them? Itachi could have thrown any genjutsu at bee that he wanted to and bee could have broken and proceeded with the fight like their was no tomorrow, after all bee had broken simple genjutsus, AND mangekyou genjutsus. He's always PREPARED. Kakashi,another good example. He wasn't worried about had the genjutsu had been real or not, Why? because he had PREPARED already, played everything out accordingly, and was successful when he set a shadow clone in place to FOOL yes, fool itachi. Kakashi actually proved that it wasn't all that hard to if you just stayed on your toes, PREPARED,and stayed focused. Orochimaru COULD have broke itachi's genjutsu,and was on the verge of doing so until itachi cut off his hand. I must say itachi moved fast as hell lol. Its like he knew if orochimaru would have broke out of that genjutsu he would have beat itachi like red head step child lol. What you should have got from ao's words that itachi genjutsu's were capable of being placed outside the range of weaker sensor type ninja. Itachi would have instantly been detected if he tried that on a sensor like tobirama who has the ability to sense COUNTRIES away. Itachis's genjutsus are outclassed by sensors of that caliber. I find it funny that despite the story saying at itachi has NEVER gone toe to toe with a sensory type ninja lol. You know why? because their a achelies heel to his genjutsu prowess. In fact that the only time itachi's genjutsus are a actual threat to any sensor is if their unaware of him. If they are aware of him countering his genjutsu's would be a simple task due to being able to sense his chakra. But back to the matter at hand even though danzo can be caught in a genjutsu none of those genjutsus would be all that effective and they damn sure wouldn't make it up to the point where they're a deciding factor. Allow me to explain...LOL i've always wanted to say that lololol.. Exhibit A, shisui. He uses a genjutsu on danzo,gets beat up,and loses a eye, and that was directly in front of him, the main reason why because no matter how hard they try tried rather it be shisui,itachi, or sasuke the can't detect where danzo will reappear after he uses izanag. So did a genjustu really do him any favors? I thought genjutsus were suppose to be hax? Lololol. Exhibit B sasuke. He uses a genjutsu with itachi in it to psyche danzo out,runs into a trap, AND ends up almost dying because danzo was PREPARED for it. Once again...played no favors..,So its not the fact the you get caught in the genjutsu its if you're prepared to deal with it or not and most the people you just named kakashi,bee,and danzo have that in spades by either having a source of power strong enough to break it, having the means to bypass and counter it, avoiding it by knowing its coming,obscuring the sharingans vision, or simply PREPARING ahead of time and not getting caught at all by using techniques sharingan can't see through and have no effect on.. Just to name a few,the list goes on.. Theirs a endless number of ways that the characters you named can get pass itachis genjutsus and rekt him lolololol. Once you get pass itachis genjutsus and force him to actually fight depending on your level of skill he ain't that hard to beat. Knowing itachi the moment he realizes hes out of his league he'll just run away anyway.If you know what to do against itachi he's nothing special. And the story has also depicted many ways to bypass his genjutsu prowess all you must do is stay PREPARED lol.
But Itachi was holding back against team 7.


He smiled after Naruto placed a Rasengan on him knowing hes going to be defeated. Also Kabuto has placed itachi's ocular powers at Rinnegan Nagato level.
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What do you think? A normal Sharingan casts a genjutsu which is unbreakable through kai. As chiyo explained if you get faced against a sharingan you should run. Two on one is the minimum requirement. His sharingan is special among the Uchiha. 'Uncommon abilities like Rinnegan and itachis sharingan" was how he described it. Which mean his ocular powers are stronger than the ordinary sharingan which can only be broken by partner method. If his one is in a better level what must it be capable of? Being immune to partner method. Not to mention he cant close off his eyes constantly to avoid genjutsu. Thats impractically impossible. Bee is such a trained guy who invented a method to bypass sharingans precognition but he couldnt escape itachis genjutsu with all of his knowledge. Genjutsu speed genjutsu feinting will eventually catch him during the most pressurized of moments of battle.
 

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But Itachi was holding back against team 7.


He smiled after Naruto placed a Rasengan on him knowing hes going to be defeated. Also Kabuto has placed itachi's ocular powers at Rinnegan Nagato level.
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What do you think? A normal Sharingan casts a genjutsu which is unbreakable through kai. As chiyo explained if you get faced against a sharingan you should run. Two on one is the minimum requirement. His sharingan is special among the Uchiha. 'Uncommon abilities like Rinnegan and itachis sharingan" was how he described it. Which mean his ocular powers are stronger than the ordinary sharingan which can only be broken by partner method. If his one is in a better level what must it be capable of? Being immune to partner method. Not to mention he cant close off his eyes constantly to avoid genjutsu. Thats impractically impossible. Bee is such a trained guy who invented a method to bypass sharingans precognition but he couldnt escape itachis genjutsu with all of his knowledge. Genjutsu speed genjutsu feinting will eventually catch him during the most pressurized of moments of battle.
Who's fault was that,that itachi was holding back? Seems like a personal problem to me. And still only because he was holding back has nothing to do with my point that danzo wasn't their. What does fighting team 7 have't to do with a hypothetical battle against danzo where itachi would get rekted?

Itachi smiled because he knew he had lost right their lol. That smile basically said "damn,they got me". Kakashi outsmarted itachi plus fooled him and naruto finished him off.(Even though kakashi could have just as easily finished him off right their lol) I noticed something lol about that fight, kakashi was out maneuvering,and countering itachi with ease the entire fight,in all honesty he could beat him single handily right their had he wanted to lol. Regular MS sasuke is higher level than itachi, he mastered his MS techniques so quickly than when compared its puts itachi MS to shame,even itachi knew that lol.And kabuto compared them in the aspect that they both use unusual abilities. Itachi knew well that nagato was his better.

Orochimaru could have broken itachi's genjutsu through kai,itachi was well aware of this which is why he got scared and cut his hand off as fast as he did. Itachi knew orochimaru could have killed him had he really wanted to,and had he released the genjutsu with kai he would have. You should run if it's one on one with a uchiha eh? Hmmmm Interesting... Lets talk about that shall we? Minato beats obito. Danzo completely demolishes shisui and basically sasuke. Hashirama destroys madara. Tobirama embarrasses izuna. Yagura basically kills itachi. Bee baby faces sasukes and his whole team,and ultimately would have beat itachi had the fight kept going. So where was any of these words true? The only time fancy words like "if you're faced with this you should run" were ever accurate is when they were being refereed to minato. That't it. Since when did it say that bee was the one who invented the method of countering genjutsu? To have the cooperation of a tailed beast in your control is naturally better than what the sharingan, look at all the benefits that come with. The question you should probably be asking yourself is "did bee really need that knowledge?" Look at the situation bee broke the genjutsu so fast that itachi's physical attack that he hid in it didn't even get a chance to make it to him in time, i mean made it look like straight child's play, proving that bee's counter speed is much faster than itachi's offensive speed(though we already knew that his reflexes are faster than itachi's) next thing you know itachis the one running away.Hell,Bee broke itachi's genjutsu faster than sasuke did LOLOLOL,so its not the fact that you get hit by the genjutsu or not, its if you're PREPARED for it. Ya gotta also remember that of the two itachi doesn't do to well fighting jinchurricki let alone perfect jins,the first time he was faced with one was on his first akatski mission where yagura pretty much killed him had it not been for juzo's sacrifice,and from that day you noticed that kisame was pretty much always the one doing the capturing,while on the other hand who have bee who has no problem at dealing with sharingan users easily dismantling users like sasuke while only using sword combat and even forcing itachi on the run.Bee doesn't need to put any stress on his mind about genjutsu's like itachi because he knows he has power far greater than the sharingan and MS that's capable of rendering them useless. Bee is literally so fast at breaking genjutsus and countering that the caster can't even so much as use them for a follow up to create a opening and he also knows(and i'm going to use itachi for an example) the moment he breaks a genjutsu the first time the likelihood that itachi would get the chance to try another one before bee forces him to physically fight a losing battle and blows him off the map is 0 percent. Its only facts. So in other words going against itachi the second bee breaks the genjutsu the first time is the point in the fight where itachi losses. So does bee really NEED to worry about being its pressurized? In reality itachi attempting to try to pressurize bee with genjutsus in combination with fancy maneuvers feints would primarily be the type of movements that get him killed.Not the brightest course of action on someone like bee whos bigger,stronger,faster, quicker and better than itachi in every way possible.. LOOOOL.
 
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Couldn't agree more with enditallsin, Itachi might force Danzo to use Izanagi a few times, but at the end of the day would Danzo simply smash Itachi. It is about Itachi simply not having the endurance to deal with Danzo and let us not forget, that Danzo actually would have killed Sasuke already after his third Izanagi when Karin wouldn't have warned him. He was even able to kill Sasuke a second time, when he stunned him with his curse mark AND still planned to take on Obito and use his Kotoamatsukami on him.
It was Sasuke's inhuman endurance and chakra reserves that made this outcome possible and nothing less. Without a comparable endurance is Danzo basicly unbeatable as Danzo would simply keep free himself from any Genjutsu by "Kai" or Izanagi and blitz attack Itachi. The Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror aren't even of relevance, generally the Susanoo isn't as Itachi doesn't really have the reserves to spam it as Sasuke did and it actually draining his chakra way more, which would benefit Danzo. Let us not even forget that the Totsuka Blade doesn't seal instantly through any touch, but has to somehow penetrate the body and seals after a few seconds, which is enough time for Danzo to rewrite the reality, with other words to use his Izanagi.
The feat of actually forcing Sasuke into blindness with just 1 fight is a feat we haven't seen before too, people underestimate Danzo way too much. He is pretty overpowered and his reserves aren't even low, more the opposite is the case...
 

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2018 people still dont know how Totsuka work. *Sigh*
Truth be told, the Totsuka Blade doesn't instantly seal by touch. Itachi slashed Orochimaru's 8 headed snake 7 times and nothing got sealed, the sealing started after he penetrated, actually stabbed Orochimaru and even then did the sealing not start instantly. The same happened to Nagato. Itachi stabbed Nagato with the Totsuka and even then did the Totsuka not seal instantly, but after a few seconds.
It has his flaws otherwise would Itachi never have stated that nothing is perfect...
 
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