Danzo vs Minato

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what i just said was that Minato was not that impressed by As speed.To be honest,whether Minato shunshin is faster than A or not is debatable.Naruto dodged Raikages punch as in the manga so is accepte. Minato vs A shunshin is debatable.

Its not debateable. Its not even on the same level as what Minato has shown is of the same caliber. As I've already said, Minato had a look of Horror on his face when A engaged him. The only reason he dodged was because of Hiriashin, and even then it was only by the skin of his teeth.
 

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Funny that thats coming from someone still trying to convince themselves that Minato > Shinobi like Madara and Nagato nor do I have the patience to spoon feed you basic things you should be able to deduce yourself.

Or that Minato is faster than A when Minato was barely able to toss a Kunai up in the time it took A to cover a decent gap of Distance.
Again stating BS? Not even gonna try to argue against the number of BS in this post when the manga did it for me. Manga already placed Minato as the fastest shinobi ever, something that even someone as arrogant as Raikage acknowledged. Raikage had no trouble in following Naruto's random speed, infact he was fighting Naruto and Bee together. Funny cuz Minato was the one fighting Bee and Raikage together. Just because he dodged one punch doesn't make him faster at all, far from it actually. His feat was shit compared to Minato's because in the contrary of Naruto who could only dodge said punch, Minato dodged it by preparing his couter-attack before. Not even going to add the fact that to dodge said punch, he had to keep a huge distance from A in the contrary of Minato who was in a much closer range. I already proved you why Naruto is slower than Raikage who himself is slower than Minato. Now whether you dislike/whine about it only because your favourite character isn't the fastest i couldn't care
 

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Not with Izanagi in play where he can spawn attack anywhere in the battle field or wait until he get speed blitz can exchange blows with each other



Then Danzo clearly exchange blows due to izanagi and seal paralysis him.

Danzo hasn't shown the physical speed to exchange blows with Minato.

Spawning anywhere on the battlefield isn't helping him at all. Might I remind you he reacted to Obito who was pretty much undetectable [ ].

Its not debateable. Its not even on the same level as what Minato has shown is of the same caliber. As I've already said, Minato had a look of Horror on his face when A engaged him. The only reason he dodged was because of Hiriashin, and even then it was only by the skin of his teeth.

But that was when he has no idea how fast Ay is. After the first dodge, look just how calm and collected Minato is when dodging Ay's second blow [ ]. No indication of surprise, no indication of shock, nothing. Minato was always going to dodge that, regardless of how close he was.

This comparison isn't helping though, it's not like Danzo holds a candle to A's speed.
 
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Minato should win this, but with high difficulty. Izanagi is a hell of a thing, he'll be exhausted.
 

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Says who, Minato needs to lay hands on Danzo for the next 10-11 minutes. Enough with the untouchable logic.

If he kills Danzo and ports away with FTG. How the hell is he going to attack him? By sneaking up on him? Obito tried that, and failed hard.

Enough with the poor arguments.
 

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Minato's way too fast for Danzo... No way he'll get hit by any of Danzos attacks.

Danzos only chance would be KA, but since that is restricted i guess Minato takes it mid diff.
 

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If he kills Danzo and ports away with FTG. How the hell is he going to attack him? By sneaking up on him? Obito tried that, and failed hard.

Enough with the poor arguments.

First of all Obito succesfully touched Minato so that point is moot
2. Its you who is making the poor argument that claim he can instant kill throughout 11 minutes while ignoring Danzo's arsenals to counter ftg. Then go further to claim even on contact that Minato land a hit while being untouchable.

You just love the hype bandwagon which is a waste of time discussing to you. I hope you follow your logic with everyone else minato faces in vs. threads. As for me I won't bother running circles arguing with you how minato will be untouchable while he is able to touch his opponent at the same time with no consequences .
 

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First of all Obito succesfully touched Minato so that point is moot
2. Its you who is making the poor argument that claim he can instant kill throughout 11 minutes while ignoring Danzo's arsenals to counter ftg. Then go further to claim even on contact that Minato land a hit while being untouchable.

You just love the hype bandwagon which is a waste of time discussing to you. I hope you follow your logic with everyone else you faces in vs. threads. As for me I won't bother running circles arguing with you how minato will be untouchable while he is able to touch his opponent at the same time with no consequences .

Yeah he touched Minato...AFTER phasing through his attack and AFTER he was found, so that point is not moot. Use your damn brain for once.

What arsenal to counter FTG? All I said was that your scenario was shitty and unrealistic. If you have a problem with Minato being able to teleport away from danger in an instant I suggest you don't debate in any thread with Minato again.

When I hear this, its usually from idiots have no more shit to spout. How about instead of moaning about this nonsense you list Danzo's counters to FTG, you know, like people do in a DEBATE, instead of moaning and crying about this hype bandwagon nonsense.
 

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Yeah he touched Minato...AFTER phasing through his attack and AFTER he was found, so that point is not moot. Use your damn brain for once.

What arsenal to counter FTG? All I said was that your scenario was shitty and unrealistic. If you have a problem with Minato being able to teleport away from danger in an instant I suggest you don't debate in any thread with Minato again.

When I hear this, its usually from idiots have no more shit to spout. How about instead of moaning about this nonsense you list Danzo's counters to FTG, you know, like people do in a DEBATE, instead of moaning and crying about this hype bandwagon nonsense.

1. You argued that minato will be untouchable then bring up obito. The whole point was obito still touched him. So claiming that is is untouchable to moot.

2.Baku's vacuum? No where was my point unrealistic unless as of minato's battle were shown they can counter his appearances.

3. Baku and waiting for appearances to land a hit
 

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Touch a nerve did I? The more the goes on, the more butthurt your getting.

Again stating BS? Not even gonna try to argue against the number of BS in this post when the manga did it for me. Manga already placed Minato as the fastest shinobi ever, something that even someone as arrogant as Raikage acknowledged.


Manga gave Minato the fastest alive title before Naruto came along. This hype was also do Hiriashin, which is not what were debating here. Even with Hiriashin, it was already implied that Raikage would have hit him the second go around [ ]


Raikage had no trouble in following Naruto's random speed, infact he was fighting Naruto and Bee together. Funny cuz Minato was the one fighting Bee and Raikage together. Just because he dodged one punch doesn't make him faster at all, far from it actually.

Naruto already proved himself faster and has used that speed on multiple occasions, the only speed A kept up with was Naruto's unenhanced speed. Dilude yourself with whatever crap you want to fill your head with, but this fact isn't changing.

His feat was shit compared to Minato's because in the contrary of Naruto who could only dodge said punch, Minato dodged it by preparing his couter-attack before.

Its not hard when its an instant S/T Jutsu. His feat isn't even close to Naruto as Naruto dodged it with Shunshin and was massively faster.

Not even going to add the fact that to dodge said punch, he had to keep a huge distance from A in the contrary of Minato who was in a much closer range. I already proved you why Naruto is slower than Raikage who himself is slower than Minato. Now whether you dislike/whine about it only because your favourite character isn't the fastest i couldn't care

Can't even begin to explain how wrong this is, Naruto explicitly stated that he was moving away so that Tsunade wouldn't get caught up in the exchange and didn't begin his Shunshin until Raikage got close to him.


Keep this coming, its hilarious.
 

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1. You argued that minato will be untouchable then bring up obito. The whole point was obito still touched him. So claiming that is is untouchable to moot.

2.Baku's vacuum? No where was my point unrealistic unless as of minato's battle were shown they can counter his appearances.

3. Baku and waiting for appearances to land a hit

1. Quit acting dumb. The only reason Obito got him is because Obito phased through Minato's counter attack, if Obito didn't phase he'd be dead, put Danzo in that position and he'd be dead, cause he can't phase away. Or Minato could just port away from Danzo instead of attacking him (Which is the whole point of me bringing up that time). Do I really need to explain this to you? Go read the manga and use your brain otherwise we're done here and I'm about to waste my time.

2. Baku's vacuum won't suck in the marks on the ground first of all, so Minato can easily teleport behind Baku and hit him with Food Cart Destroyer with Gamabunta. If needed he can summon extra toads to help handle him Bunta can even spit oil in his mouth and cover him with it rendering him immobile. The unrealstic part of your argument was where Minato stupidly lets himself get hit by Danzo when he can port away. Not this part, obviously.

3. Read above for Baku. Waiting for appearances? I hope you don't mean he's going to sneak up on Minato and try to touch him, when all he has to do is teleport away from him.
 

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1. Quit acting dumb. The only reason Obito got him is because Obito phased through Minato's counter attack, if Obito didn't phase he'd be dead, put Danzo in that position and he'd be dead, cause he can't phase away. Or Minato could just port away from Danzo instead of attacking him (Which is the whole point of me bringing up that time). Do I really need to explain this to you? Go read the manga and use your brain otherwise we're done here and I'm about to waste my time.

2. Baku's vacuum won't suck in the marks on the ground first of all, so Minato can easily teleport behind Baku and hit him with Food Cart Destroyer with Gamabunta. If needed he can summon extra toads to help handle him Bunta can even spit oil in his mouth and cover him with it rendering him immobile. The unrealstic part of your argument was where Minato stupidly lets himself get hit by Danzo when he can port away. Not this part, obviously.

3. Read above for Baku. Waiting for appearances? I hope you don't mean he's going to sneak up on Minato and try to touch him, when all he has to do is teleport away from him.

1. Because you need Kamui in order to successfully counter that swing? Obito takes advantage of intangibility?

2. Out of character to imprint marks on the ground as he uses kunai specifically in the manga and uses imprints seal on a person. Then the seal has to be behind Baku. I love how you just sprouting insults at me then make a ridiculous claim that oil-base attack immobilizes a character.

3. Thats clearly not what I meant. Any cunning ninja can wait until he tele-attacks then counter:
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You rely too much with one trick to work for 10 minutes straight.
 

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1. Because you need Kamui in order to successfully counter that swing? Obito takes advantage of intangibility?

2. Out of character to imprint marks on the ground as he uses kunai specifically in the manga and uses imprints seal on a person. Then the seal has to be behind Baku. I love how you just sprouting insults at me then make a ridiculous claim that oil-base attack immobilizes a character.

3. Thats clearly not what I meant. Any cunning ninja can wait until he tele-attacks then counter:
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You rely too much with one trick to work for 10 minutes straight.

Not even gonna bother. If you can't understand the point of me referencing that encounter then I'm not gonna waste my time.
 

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Not even gonna bother. If you can't understand the point of me referencing that encounter then I'm not gonna waste my time.

Well you keep enforcing that my arguments shows that "Danzo keeps sneaking behind Minato with Izanagi spawn until it works". But yea you are wasting time trying to argue Minato being untouchable
 

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Well you keep enforcing that my arguments shows that "Danzo keeps sneaking behind Minato with Izanagi spawn until it works". But yea you are wasting time trying to argue Minato being untouchable

What he's getting at is that the instance that Danzo doesn't have the necessities to survive that encounter like Obito does. In the simplest terms that one can put that in.
 

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What he's getting at is that the instance that Danzo doesn't have the necessities to survive that encounter like Obito does. In the simplest terms that one can put that in.

I already know Danzo can't survive that blow thats pretty obvious. That goes for anyone to tank a weapon to the brain (excpet for immortals). My point was that if a death blow is coming how would each person be able to counter it from not dying? Obito's method was tangibility.
 

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I already know Danzo can't survive that blow thats pretty obvious. That goes for anyone to tank a weapon to the brain (excpet for immortals). My point was that if a death blow is coming how would each person be able to counter it from not dying? Obito's method was tangibility.

Minato would have the upperhand in Melee. Its not like their forced to trade blows, Minato is more than capable of winning in CQC.
 
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