Danzo vs. Killer Bee

[Brother Numpsay]

All he is doing is growing a

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. It won't wrap around Killer B, it will just cause a tree to grow right next to where Killer B is or wherever Danzo decides to use it. Stop overrating Danzo's Mokuton capabilities. Its annoying. This isn't NUNSG where can make his Mokuton wrap around his opponent at will.

Not to mention if he isn't connected to the Mokuton, he has no way to suppress Killer B so he breaks free from it just like Naruto broke free when he knocked Obito away.

Mokuton is a non factor here.

Where is the overrating? Moukuton has the ability to do it so I'm not making anything up. Just because it happen in NUNSG doesn't mean its not possible. We have seen by manga that it almost happen to Danzo, fact.

The bold only happened in the manga when he lost control of Hashirama's cells.

Which proves that if he had balance chakra reserves and wasn't close to death he could use it that way.

The manga has shown him using growing a tree out of his arm. Growing a tree from his arm isn't going to let him bind Killer B.

I thought you knew Moukton more them me? Prove it that it matters that where the source is coming from, proves that it can suppress chakra. We have seen Madara using it without being connected to his Wood when doing it to killer bee. We also seen Yamato creating a prep Wood cage for Kisame that was able to do that same. As long as Mokukon consume the opponent it is able to do what it is able to do.

If you had manga scans that back up your claim of him being able to do so, I'd see a manga scan of him being able to use Mokuton like you claim he can, but I don't see one so you haven't backed up anything.

I showed it, and I circled it for you. And I also have Obito's words and knew Danzo's future plans. Again Danzo ONLY made that tree of that size just enough to DODGE an attack thats all. That DOES NOT Disprove that this is the only Size he can do it from the scans That I already backed up with. NOW back up what you are saying to say Danzo is only able to use what he use against Sasuke.

Ok? His Fuuton isn't going to stop Bijuu Dama from blowing Baku up.

TBB is not the target the Giant Buijuu is.

 

[shelke]

..You proved nothing. Realizing you're in KA doesn't break you out. That's why Itachi was still in KA despite knowing he was using it on himself. That currently thing only proves that Danzo stopped using it when he was caught. Ao checked to see if Danzo was still using it....... Come on now

Mifune was completely out of Danzo's KA. You must be kidding if you think otherwise. Those scans are clear as day. You have zero proof to back this up that Danzo stopped using it the moment Ao had noticed it, when Danzo admits that his technique ran out only moments before Mei's guard checked him again - he comments he cannot use it many times a day, alluding to a recharge time and cool down time.

Danzo's use of KA is laughable and so was his Mokuton. The original users of KG have the actual advantage. Itachi commented that about Sharingan far back. Kabuto is also able to rewrite the talisman's remotely -

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- But KA from Shisui's eye rendered it completely useless. And you are telling me that Mifune, who by the way completely stopped talking and didn't continue crowning Danzo as the head of the alliance upon simple interruption is able to use it at Shisui's level? You must be joking.

 

[KidGamer65]

Where is the overrating? Moukuton has the ability to do it so I'm not making anything up. Just because it happen in NUNSG doesn't mean its not possible. We have seen by manga that it almost happen to Danzo, fact

Mokuton can do it, doesn't mean Danzo can. So yes you are making stuff up.

NUNSG is a non canon video game. You don't take feats from there and try to use them in debates that go by MANGA CANON.

You mean the time where Danzo was about to turn into a damn tree due to the cells consuming him? Sorry, invalid evidence is invalid.

Which proves that if he had balance chakra reserves and wasn't close to death he could use it that way.

It was CONSUMING HIM. So you mean to tell me he is going to use to consume himself? You mean to tell me that he is going to use it to try and wrap around someone else by using Hashirama's cells almost consuming him as evidence? Slap yourself.

I thought you knew Moukton more them me? Prove it that it matters that where the source is coming from, proves that it can suppress chakra. We have seen Madara using it without being connected to his Wood when doing it to killer bee. We also seen Yamato creating a prep Wood cage for Kisame that was able to do that same. As long as Mokukon consume the opponent it is able to do what it is able to do.

Funny, all I see is Mokuton capabilities from others, not Danzo.

Madara is not Danzo. Kisame is not Danzo.

Madara and Hashirama and Yamato can sprout Wood from the ground so naturally they'd be able to control it. Danzo's doesn't come from the ground it comes from his arm. No link to his Mokuton coming out of his arm=No suppression.

When Obito's connection to his Mokuton was broken, Naruto was freed. The same will happen to Danzo.

I showed it, and I circled it for you. And I also have Obito's words and knew Danzo's future plans. Again Danzo ONLY made that tree of that size just enough to DODGE an attack thats all. That DOES NOT Disprove that this is the only Size he can do it from the scans That I already backed up with. NOW back up what you are saying to say Danzo is only able to use what he use against Sasuke.

I'm still not seeing feats here. All I'm seeing is you clinging to Obito's statement, which referred to Uchiha and Hashirama's powers so you're evidence is weak as hell here.

I don't need to back shit up because debates go by feats and confirmed abilities. Danzo has not shown, hinted or confirmed that he can use Mokuton like others can, he has only shown that he can only grow trees out of his arm so that's all he can do.

You have no real evidence so you are attempting to try and get me to refute something that isn't in the manga.

TBB is not the target the Giant Buijuu is.

Won't change the fact that Baku would still get blown to bits. Charging a TBB and firing it is faster than Baku activating his wind and than Danzo using his own Wind technique.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Mokuton can do it, doesn't mean Danzo can. So yes you are making stuff up.

NUNSG is a non canon video game. You don't take feats from there and try to use them in debates that go by MANGA CANON.

"Danzo has Mouton, Danzo cannot do it" What?

Where did I say Danzo will use NUNS special on Killer Bee? My claim was what Mouton was shown in the manga which was using the tree to consume and supress chakra.

You mean the time where Danzo was about to turn into a damn tree due to the cells consuming him? Sorry, invalid evidence is invalid.

Yes that was time the due to him being close to death. Thats enough evidence on what he can do without being near death and lack of chakra. Valid is valid.

It was CONSUMING HIM. So you mean to tell me he is going to use to consume himself? You mean to tell me that he is going to use it to try and wrap around someone else by using Hashirama's cells almost consuming him as evidence? Slap yourself.

It was consuming him due to lack of control because of near death and lack of chakra. So yes I do mean to tell you is is going to consume Bee with Mokuton just like he did

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but alternating the size, with chakra in control.

Funny, all I see is Mokuton capabilities from others, not Danzo.

Madara is not Danzo. Kisame is not Danzo.

Madara and Hashirama and Yamato can sprout Wood from the ground so naturally they'd be able to control it. Danzo's doesn't come from the ground it comes from his arm. No link to his Mokuton coming out of his arm=No suppression.

When Obito's connection to his Mokuton was broken, Naruto was freed. The same will happen to Danzo.

Contradict your self. You said no link to mokuton coming out of his arm = no suppression then explain that Obito was able to do it. Obito was shown to suppress Naruto. Naruto knocked out Obito which result to it loosening as much as Madara was knocked out by Gai which loosen for Bee to break out of

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I'm still not seeing feats here. All I'm seeing is you clinging to Obito's statement, which referred to Uchiha and Hashirama's powers so you're evidence is weak as hell here.

Weak? Lol please explain to me how is Uchiha power able to control Buijuu?

Explain to me how Hashiaram power is able to control Buijuu?

I don't need to back shit up because debates go by feats and confirmed abilities. Danzo has not shown, hinted or confirmed that he can use Mokuton like others can, he has only shown that he can only grow trees out of his arm so that's all he can do.

Same rely as above

You have no real evidence so you are attempting to try and get me to refute something that isn't in the manga.

Gave you manga and evidence its only you that thinks its invalid

Won't change the fact that Baku would still get blown to bits. Charging a TBB and firing it is faster than Baku activating his wind and than Danzo using his own Wind technique.

Your time of charge is inaccurate

 

[KidGamer65]

"Danzo has Mouton, Danzo cannot do it" What?

Where did I say Danzo will use NUNS special on Killer Bee? My claim was what Mouton was shown in the manga which was using the tree to consume and supress chakra.

Now you can't read? I'll simplify it for you.

STOP GIVING OTHER'S MOKUTON FEATS TO DANZO.

Danzo's use of Mokuton only grows trees out his arm. Its as simple as that. Don't hand other people's feats to Danzo to try and make up for his shit Mokuton.

Yes that was time the due to him being close to death. Thats enough evidence on what he can do without being near death and lack of chakra. Valid is valid.

It wasn't even consuming him nor did it wrap around him like you say it was.

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before he cut himself away from his arm imbued with the cells.

Invalid evidence is invalid.

It was consuming him due to lack of control because of near death and lack of chakra. So yes I do mean to tell you is is going to consume Bee with Mokuton just like he did

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but alternating the size, with chakra in control.

Except, all it did there was grow a tree. Growing a tree out of your arm isn't going to let you bind anything let alone a Bijuu, cause you are simply growing a tree. Nothing more nothing less.

Contradict your self. You said no link to mokuton coming out of his arm = no suppression then explain that Obito was able to do it. Obito was shown to suppress Naruto. Naruto knocked out Obito which result to it loosening as much as Madara was knocked out by Gai which loosen for Bee to break out of

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Now you can't read the manga either.

-Obito

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Naruto.
-Naruto

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. Mokuton breaks off from Obito.
-Naruto is

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Naruto wasn't suppressed anymore because there was just a free root wrapped around him. Obito was broken away from the root. Danzo has no connection to the tree after it comes out so even if it could bind B (Which it can't) he'd effortlessly break free from it.

Weak? Lol please explain to me how is Uchiha power able to control Buijuu?

Explain to me how Hashiaram power is able to control Buijuu?

If I need to explain to you how Uchiha power (Sharingan) allows you to control a Bijuu then you should just stop reading the manga right here and now.

Hashirama's power doesn't control Bijuu as in manipulating them, it only suppresses them and puts them to sleep (

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Danzo can't bind anyone with his Mokuton (As all it does is grow trees out of his arm) and he can't use Kakuan Nitten Suishu. I'm still waiting for a scan of him doing this, instead of you basing this part of your argument on what happened in a video game and on Obito's words.

Gave you manga and evidence its only you that thinks its invalid

Really? Cause I saw no scan of Danzo being able to use Mokuton that lets him bind his opponent. Only a scan of Danzo using Mokuton that grows into a tree with the source being his arm. Growing trees aren't going to bind anyone at all.

Your time of charge is inaccurate

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and fired off 4 Bijuu Dama

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May not be a literal second but its much faster than Danzo using his jutsu, after Baku activating his suction.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Now you can't read? I'll simplify it for you.

STOP GIVING OTHER'S MOKUTON FEATS TO DANZO.

Danzo's use of Mokuton only grows trees out his arm. Its as simple as that. Don't hand other people's feats to Danzo to try and make up for his shit Mokuton.



It wasn't even consuming him nor did it wrap around him like you say it was.

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before he cut himself away from his arm imbued with the cells.

Invalid evidence is invalid.




Except, all it did there was grow a tree. Growing a tree out of your arm isn't going to let you bind anything let alone a Bijuu, cause you are simply growing a tree. Nothing more nothing less.





Now you can't read the manga either.

-Obito

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Naruto.
-Naruto

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. Mokuton breaks off from Obito.
-Naruto is

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Naruto wasn't suppressed anymore because there was just a free root wrapped around him. Obito was broken away from the root. Danzo has no connection to the tree after it comes out so even if it could bind B (Which it can't) he'd effortlessly break free from it.


If I need to explain to you how Uchiha power (Sharingan) allows you to control a Bijuu then you should just stop reading the manga right here and now.

Hashirama's power doesn't control Bijuu as in manipulating them, it only suppresses them and puts them to sleep (

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Danzo can't bind anyone with his Mokuton (As all it does is grow trees out of his arm) and he can't use Kakuan Nitten Suishu. I'm still waiting for a scan of him doing this, instead of you basing this part of your argument on what happened in a video game and on Obito's words.





Really? Cause I saw no scan of Danzo being able to use Mokuton that lets him bind his opponent. Only a scan of Danzo using Mokuton that grows into a tree with the source being his arm. Growing trees aren't going to bind anyone at all.

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and fired off 4 Bijuu Dama

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May not be a literal second but its much faster than Danzo using his jutsu, after Baku activating his suction.

I knew the momment i was going argue with you were going go in circles. Its impossible rationalize this

 

[KidGamer65]

I knew the momment i was going argue with you were going go in circles. Its impossible rationalize this

We are going in circles because you won't accept the simple fact that Danzo's Mokuton is shit level and can only grow trees out of his arm.

We are going in circles because you keep on spouting the same nonsense despite not having any FEATS for it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

We are going in circles because you won't accept the simple fact that Danzo's Mokuton is shit level and can only grow trees out of his arm.

We are going in circles because you keep on spouting the same nonsense despite not having any FEATS for it.

Show me where I said he says he doesn't need his arm to use Mokuton. Its the fact that your are neglecting what Danzo has shown and was able to show if he had chakra control that he can't use Mokuton that way. Yuu simply making bad arguments that his tress =/= is not Mokuton despite of the manga says.

I have proven countless of times and yet you want to take scans that I showed, "being invalid"

Obito suppress Naruto' Buijuu chakra, fact.
Madara supress Bee's Buijuu chakra, fact

Both were knocked out that made Mokuton uneffective to function again, fact.

Danzo has Mokuton,

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All Mokuton can suppress chakra fact. Danzo said he needed to do it when necessary, fact.

If you think nesscary means only a couple of small tress then your wasting time with these arugments.

I see you are doing the same thing and the debate tounry too, concerning Sage Kabuto

 

[KidGamer65]

Show me where I said he says he doesn't need his arm to use Mokuton. Its the fact that your are neglecting what Danzo has shown and was able to show if he had chakra control that he can't use Mokuton that way. Yuu simply making bad arguments that his tress =/= is not Mokuton despite of the manga says.

This is why I don't debate with illiterates. Can't read for shit.

-I never claimed that you said he doesn't need his arm to use Mokuton.
-I never claimed that his trees weren't Mokuton.

You would know these two things if you decided to learn how to read and stop twisting the words in my posts.

Danzo can't bind B with his Mokuton as it does nothing but grows a tree out of his arm. No binding=No suppression. Again, you would know I said this if you decided to read.

Since when does growing a tree out of your arm allow him to completely bind B with it? Huh? You have STILL failed to answer this question.

I have proven countless of times and yet you want to take scans that I showed, "being invalid"

Obito suppress Naruto' Buijuu chakra, fact.
Madara supress Bee's Buijuu chakra, fact

Both were knocked out that made Mokuton uneffective to function again, fact.

Danzo has Mokuton,

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All Mokuton can suppress chakra fact. Danzo said he needed to do it when necessary, fact.

If you think nesscary means only a couple of small tress then your wasting time with these arugments.

I see you are doing the same thing and the debate tounry too, concerning Sage Kabuto

The above goes to this part of your terrible post as well.

Draegod had logic behind Kabuto being able to use those techs. You don't. Not one shred of logic at all. You're just spouting garbage post after garbage post, handing other Mokuton users feats to Danzo. When that is not how it works.

Until you show me a scan of him using Mokuton how you claim ( Binding someone with it cause what he does with it in the manga can't bind someone) then I'll reply. If you aren't, don't even waste my time with another garbage reply.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Killer Be wins, without too much difficulty. How can Danzo even compare to those chakra reserves when he has ten sharingan on his arm? And don't tell me that Killer Bee wouldn't be able to kill him eleven times over.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

This is why I don't debate with illiterates. Can't read for shit.

-I never claimed that you said he doesn't need his arm to use Mokuton.
-I never claimed that his trees weren't Mokuton.

You would know these two things if you decided to learn how to read and stop twisting the words in my posts.

-You were going no where saying mokuton being rooted as a source to bind or using DNA as I already explain Madara, Obito, and Yamato doing the same with or without using the ground as the source of binding.
-You continuously made arguments by claim that Danzo only has "small trees" to distinguish what other Mokuton user can do with theirs.

Danzo can't bind B with his Mokuton as it does nothing but grows a tree out of his arm. No binding=No suppression. Again, you would know I said this if you decided to read.

Making up the process to prove yourself right?

Since when does growing a tree out of your arm allow him to completely bind B with it? Huh? You have STILL failed to answer this question.

Making up the process again to prove yourself right, Your claim is that Danzo HAS TO specifically grow to a complete tree. What is there to answer? Your Make up process on how Mokuton works specifically for Danzo?

Draegod had logic behind Kabuto being able to use those techs. You don't. Not one shred of logic at all. You're just spouting garbage post after garbage post, handing other Mokuton users feats to Danzo. When that is not how it works.

Until you show me a scan of him using Mokuton how you claim ( Binding someone with it cause what he does with it in the manga can't bind someone) then I'll reply. If you aren't, don't even waste my time with another garbage reply.

What make up feats are you talking about? Your simply denying what I showed you with back up and your neglecting it by making claims that he can only grow smalls trees thats it. Thats all the Mokuton he can do. Grow a tree. Lol come on dude. How do you even rationalize this in your head even with countless back up.

Obito blood lust was able to use Mokuton better then Current experience Obito. By your logic is it ok to accept that young Obito mokuton> current?

Killer Be wins, without too much difficulty. How can Danzo even compare to those chakra reserves when he has ten sharingan on his arm? And don't tell me that Killer Bee wouldn't be able to kill him eleven times over.

ITs 10 minutes not 10 deaths. That is enough time to seal and kill Bee with spawning

 

[KidGamer65]

-You were going no where saying mokuton being rooted as a source to bind or using DNA as I already explain Madara, Obito, and Yamato doing the same with or without using the ground as the source of binding.
-You continuously made arguments by claim that Danzo only has "small trees" to distinguish what other Mokuton user can do with theirs.



Making up the process to prove yourself right?



Making up the process again to prove yourself right, Your claim is that Danzo HAS TO specifically grow to a complete tree. What is there to answer? Your Make up process on how Mokuton works specifically for Danzo?



What make up feats are you talking about? Your simply denying what I showed you with back up and your neglecting it by making claims that he can only grow smalls trees thats it. Thats all the Mokuton he can do. Grow a tree. Lol come on dude. How do you even rationalize this in your head even with countless back up.

Obito blood lust was able to use Mokuton better then Current experience Obito. By your logic is it ok to accept that young Obito mokuton> current?





ITs 10 minutes not 10 deaths. That is enough time to seal and kill Bee with spawning

No scan huh? Didn't think so. When Danzo does it then you can say he can do it. Until then, you're wrong and have no argument on this part. Not even gonna waste my time with a guy who can do nothing but hand other people's Mokuton feats over to Danzo just because his own are insufficient.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No scan huh? Didn't think so. When Danzo does it then you can say he can do it. Until then, you're wrong and have no argument on this part. Not even gonna waste my time with a guy who can do nothing but hand other people's Mokuton feats over to Danzo just because his own are insufficient.

Lmao nice way to dodge everything I already say and show and pretend I never show them. Then yet can't quote me once "of handing other feats to what Danzo has shown".