Danzo vs. Killer Bee

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Location: Land of Iron Bridge
Distance: Same as Danzo vs Sasuke
Restrict: KA

Mindset: In Character. Danzo goal is to posses and control the 8 tails, even if it means Killing Bee. Killer Bee has the same mind set he was when Sasuke and Kisame try to capture him.

-Danzo begins unsealed.



Scenario 2 : Bee has Samehada.
 

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Once Full Bijuu comes out Danzo's chances of victory go down to zero.
 

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I'd say danzo actually although it could go either way but its not rape
 

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Bee's speed>Danzo's speed

True. Alot of people are faster then Danzo. But speed will have nothing to do with any or being a stomp match up. Danzo has Sharingan precog and decent enough evasive skills to still manage the fight.

Bee has enough chakra/jutsu to waste 10 minutes of time.

That is true. Even fodders was shown to at least fight for 10 minutes straight. So it won't be a matter of time "before his opponents chakra drops to win". But instead Danzo undying body that is able to spawn to his advantage.

Bijuu Dama rapes Danzo if he turns off Izanagi.

I don't see how this matters. No mortal being won't be able to take on Bijuu Dama head on... But this attack into an argument that makes this attack useful, instead of an obvious statement.

Once Full Bijuu comes out Danzo's chances of victory go down to zero.

Wouldn't that make him a bigger target
 

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True. Alot of people are faster then Danzo. But speed will have nothing to do with any or being a stomp match up. Danzo has Sharingan precog and decent enough evasive skills to still manage the fight.



That is true. Even fodders was shown to at least fight for 10 minutes straight. So it won't be a matter of time "before his opponents chakra drops to win". But instead Danzo undying body that is able to spawn to his advantage.



I don't see how this matters. No mortal being won't be able to take on Bijuu Dama head on... But this attack into an argument that makes this attack useful, instead of an obvious statement.



Wouldn't that make him a bigger target

for what? all of danzo's attacks are long ranged, A tbb blows through them
 

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Izanagi could help Danzo a LOT, he could handle Bee in v2 mode and win, but when Killer Bee goes full BM Danzo's chances come down to:

-He can control de Kyuubi , as Obito explained, so can he control the hachibi with his powers? If not KB wins med diff
 

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Izanagi could help Danzo a LOT, he could handle Bee in v2 mode and win, but when Killer Bee goes full BM Danzo's chances come down to:

-He can control de Kyuubi , as Obito explained, so can he control the hachibi with his powers? If not KB wins med diff

Obito knows he can do it to the kyuubi so yes that goes.for other buijuu too. As for the condition Ka is restricted so controlling KB wont happen. But he does have wood release to supress his power tho.
for what? all of danzo's attacks are long ranged, A tbb blows through them

No he also wind manipulation for close range and seals. Also read the conditions as they are in character so stating stuff like tbb everything and everything is not an argument. Try again
 

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V2 Bee wins.

V2 is very dangerous.
Danzo has two options to defeat it though.

1. Wood Release. We saw danzo unable to dodge sussanoo arrow and resulted to release this attack right, on time to redirect it. When V2 is charging at him he could do the same thing. Right after that, Wood release will supress the buijuus power.

2. Baki combo. This combo was able cut open on of the strongest defence in the NV. It is debatable if it will do the same.
 

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Wouldn't that make him a bigger target

His durability prevents him from taking significant damage from any of Danzo's moves bar the Baku enhanced Fuuton, and a Bijuu Dama would wreck Baku, so that's why Danzo can't win once he uses it.
 

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His durability prevents him from taking significant damage from any of Danzo's moves bar the Baku enhanced Fuuton, and a Bijuu Dama would wreck Baku, so that's why Danzo can't win once he uses it.

What about Wood Release?
 

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What about Wood Release?

His Mokuton isn't offensive, not to mention when he uses it, it breaks away from his body and he has zero control over it. B would break free from that with ease.
 

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His Mokuton isn't offensive, not to mention when he uses it, it breaks away from his body and he has zero control over it. B would break free from that with ease.

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He only used it defensively because it was necessary in his situation. Wood Release wasn't necessary to beat Sasuke specifically so it wasn't relevant to use in that match up.

Danzo does not have control over it only because he was

Im not saying that Danzo can do Wood jutsus but creating will still get the job done.
 

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He only used it defensively because it was necessary in his situation. Wood Release wasn't necessary to beat Sasuke specifically so it wasn't relevant to use in that match up.

Danzo does not have control over it only because he was

Im not saying that Danzo can do Wood jutsus but creating will still get the job done.

Obito's words on Danzo's Mokuton capabilities don't mean anything considering the fact that Danzo has not shown the ability or capability to cause Mokuton to sprout from the ground, only shown by Yamato, Hashirama and Madara, nor does Obito know his limits with the technique.

Killer B noted that Madara's Mokuton is on par with Hashirama's when it comes to binding Bijuu, so saying inferior users can do the same thing is invalid. Especially when an inferior user with it, .

The same would happen to Danzo. You can't hand others Mokuton feats to him.
 

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Bee wins low-mid diff
 

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Obito's words on Danzo's Mokuton capabilities don't mean anything considering the fact that Danzo has not shown the ability or capability to cause Mokuton to sprout from the ground, only shown by Yamato, Hashirama and Madara, nor does Obito know his limits with the technique.

I don't think using Wood on ground and air matters as it was shown to do either or. Danzo has shown he can alter the size of the jutsu. Although he did lost control made it look bigger, it doesn't matter as it was proven that the length to change for his desire. Wither to be enough to change the size to redirect just enough to redirect a Giant arrow or to use it to stop control the Kyuubi one day.

Killer B noted that Madara's Mokuton is on par with Hashirama's when it comes to binding Bijuu, so saying inferior users can do the same thing is invalid. Especially when an inferior user with it, .

That context never implied "Madara Mokuton= Hashi in Binding There anyone that's inferior to them will not work"
As Naruto just mention Yamato in the Same sentence when Hashi is obviously>>.

Then you clearly see Obito Suppressing Kurmama's power that Naruto had to result to physical contact since he was unable to use Kurama when he was binded.

The same would happen to Danzo. You can't hand others Mokuton feats to him.

I haven't gave him feats I gave him what he was able to show:
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Bee wins low-mid diff

I disagree both scenes are debatable

Scene 1 leans more towards Danzo while Scene 2 leans more towards Bee
 

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Obito knows he can do it to the kyuubi so yes that goes.for other buijuu too. As for the condition Ka is restricted so controlling KB wont happen. But he does have wood release to supress his power tho.


No he also wind manipulation for close range and seals. Also read the conditions as they are in character so stating stuff like tbb everything and everything is not an argument. Try again
when killer bee gets threatened(IN CHARACTER!!) he goes full 8 tails, and as he did against the lowly suigetsu he used tbb
 
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