Danzo vs. Kakashi

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Conditions: War Arc Kakashi, works out Izanagi as quickly as Sasuke (pretty much straight away)
Restrictions: Kamui, KA
Location: Valley of the End
Mindset: Kakashi's employing every bit of his genius and strategizing every move. Danzo is feeling very sure of himself.
 

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I think Kakashi can take this. I assume Danzo has already removed his seal?

Kakashi went through Zabuza, Haku, Seven swordsmen, Jins and Obito before having to get his chakra restored. Using his chakra wisely as always he should be able to just last long enough.

VOTE works out well for him since he can use the water for his suitons and possibly drown Baku.

Logically he should be able to copy Danzo's fuuton since he was able to copy a suiton from someone with mastery like Kisame. Dont think that is used enough in VS. Kakashi is known as the copy ninja too.

He can use his dogs as lookouts for where Danzo spawns either by looking or sniffing him out.
 

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danzo wins. The only reason sasuke survived so long against danzo was susanoo, whereas kakashi can't even use his ms At least give him defensive warping.
 
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Kakashi is the only person that can beat Danzo outside of outlasting Izanagi. Kamui would send Danzou's entire body in the kamui dimension. Danzou would have no way of coming back. Without Kamui he gets raped
 

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honestly sasuke was surviving there only becoz of Susanoo so don't see how Kakashi pulls out a win
What happens if Kakashi sends his nasty arm to another dimension?

Kamui is restricted
 

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Kakashi doesn't have Katon. Sasuke does. Sasuke only survived in the end because of Susanoo. The only thing that separates Kakashi from Sasuke is clones and tactics, and his tactics aren't enough to make up for Izanagi, Baku and Fuuton. So he loses.
 

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honestly sasuke was surviving there only becoz of Susanoo so don't see how Kakashi pulls out a win

Kamui is restricted

Oh, this isn't even a question then. Kakashi loses.

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Kakashi doesn't have Katon. Sasuke does. Sasuke only survived in the end because of Susanoo. The only thing that separates Kakashi from Sasuke is clones and tactics, and his tactics aren't enough to make up for Izanagi, Baku and Fuuton. So he loses.

honestly sasuke was surviving there only becoz of Susanoo so don't see how Kakashi pulls out a win

Kamui is restricted

danzo wins. The only reason sasuke survived so long against danzo was susanoo, whereas kakashi can even use his ms At least give him defensive warping.

That wasn't the reason at all. He spammed MS because it laid a lot of pressure on Danzo, and forced him to use up Izanagi quickly. But as we've seen, even well-aimed shuriken can force him to start an Izanagi. And it's not like Danzo can pause his Izanagi... once he's used an eye, it will just continue until the eye is sealed off.

It's a matter of who can outlast the other. Since this War Arc Kakashi, his reserves are pretty big and he can make his chakra last quite a long time since he's not using Kamui.

And he's not pulling out Baku either. Baku was used as part of a strategy to break open his Susano'o... that's always only when large summons are used in battle - either against large constructs or large opponents. The Futons can be copied if used against him, in a similar way he did against Kisame, and technically Kakashi does have Katon, though what jutsu we'll never know.
 

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Kakashi doesn't have Katon. Sasuke does. Sasuke only survived in the end because of Susanoo. The only thing that separates Kakashi from Sasuke is clones and tactics, and his tactics aren't enough to make up for Izanagi, Baku and Fuuton. So he loses.

@bold bro, Kakashi has copied several jutsu and the databook lists him for all elements for what it's worth.
OP: Probs Danzo.
 

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Kakashi with low difficulty. Superior CQC fighter and better Sharingan user; to copy Danzo's techniques as well as manipulating the terrain to his advantage, thanks to the location.

Susanoo wasn't used as defensive resort but was used to pressure Danzo to continuously spam Izanagi. Sasuke was never in need of it to beat Danzo, and Kakashi doesn't either.

Danzo's stamina lasts only 10 minutes, and I could have swore Kakashi lasted 3 days sustaining the Sharingan (costs him more Chakra than Uchiha) as well as employing many taxing Jutsu's, all of which allows him to outlast Danzo.

All of his techniques are copied and nothing implies they can't. He has Katon in his disposal. I don't know what kind of retard would think he doesn't, when the Databook lists him as Katon user and Sharingan allows him to copy elemental techniques.
 

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That wasn't the reason at all. He spammed MS because it laid a lot of pressure on Danzo, and forced him to use up Izanagi quickly. But as we've seen, even well-aimed shuriken can force him to start an Izanagi. And it's not like Danzo can pause his Izanagi... once he's used an eye, it will just continue until the eye is sealed off.

It's a matter of who can outlast the other. Since this War Arc Kakashi, his reserves are pretty big and he can make his chakra last quite a long time since he's not using Kamui.

And he's not pulling out Baku either. Baku was used as part of a strategy to break open his Susano'o... that's always only when large summons are used in battle - either against large constructs or large opponents. The Futons can be copied if used against him, in a similar way he did against Kisame, and technically Kakashi does have Katon, though what jutsu we'll never know.

he had to pressure danzo via susanoo, and susanoo saved his ass at least 3 times that match.
 

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Kakashi doesn't have Katon. Sasuke does. Sasuke only survived in the end because of Susanoo. The only thing that separates Kakashi from Sasuke is clones and tactics, and his tactics aren't enough to make up for Izanagi, Baku and Fuuton. So he loses.

Raition dogs should work.
 

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As others have stated, Kakashi doesn't have the defense needed to tank some of Danzo's attacks. On top of that, Kakashi doesn't have the firepower to contend with Danzo over the ten minute period. So this basically boils down to Kakashi wasting ten minutes by running and hiding constantly.

Danzo wins.
 

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That wasn't the reason at all. He spammed MS because it laid a lot of pressure on Danzo, and forced him to use up Izanagi quickly. But as we've seen, even well-aimed shuriken can force him to start an Izanagi. And it's not like Danzo can pause his Izanagi... once he's used an eye, it will just continue until the eye is sealed off.

It's a matter of who can outlast the other. Since this War Arc Kakashi, his reserves are pretty big and he can make his chakra last quite a long time since he's not using Kamui.

And he's not pulling out Baku either. Baku was used as part of a strategy to break open his Susano'o... that's always only when large summons are used in battle - either against large constructs or large opponents. The Futons can be copied if used against him, in a similar way he did against Kisame, and technically Kakashi does have Katon, though what jutsu we'll never know.

He needed Susanoo to protect from Danzo's sneak attacks with Izanagi, he needed it for Baku, and he had to pressure Danzo because otherwise Izanagi would be drawn out longer than Sasuke could fight.

-Kakashi's reserves are not large. Right before making a single clone he said he was worried about his chakra reserves. He's obviously not going to come close to outlasting someone with Hashirama's cells and Izanagi.

-Baku was used because he needed it. Nothing more, nothing less. If he needs it here, he will use it.

And sure, he can probably copy Fuuton, that is if he sees the hand signs. If Danzo uses Izanagi to spawn out of Kakashi's LoS and then attack with a Fuuton he won't be able to copy it, all he'll be able to do is evade. Danzo was able to grab Sasuke's neck and apply the curse mark before Sasuke could cut him. This was all without his Sharingan which dramatically increases CQC ability to precognition. Kakashi isn't going to go through this battle without being tagged by Danzo, and when he does the Curse Mark ends him as he has no way to break out of it.

@bold bro, Kakashi has copied several jutsu and the databook lists him for all elements for what it's worth.
OP: Probs Danzo.

Lmao yet he hasn't used one on panel, so we have no idea which jutsu he knows so there is no point trying to use it in an argument.

Raition dogs should work.

For what? I hope you know Fuuton beats Raiton. So Raiton Dogs are almost useless here. Especially due to Izanagi.
 

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He needed Susanoo to protect from Danzo's sneak attacks with Izanagi, he needed it for Baku, and he had to pressure Danzo because otherwise Izanagi would be drawn out longer than Sasuke could fight.

-Kakashi's reserves are not large. Right before making a single clone he said he was worried about his chakra reserves. He's obviously not going to come close to outlasting someone with Hashirama's cells and Izanagi.

-Baku was used because he needed it. Nothing more, nothing less. If he needs it here, he will use it.

And sure, he can probably copy Fuuton, that is if he sees the hand signs. If Danzo uses Izanagi to spawn out of Kakashi's LoS and then attack with a Fuuton he won't be able to copy it, all he'll be able to do is evade. Danzo was able to grab Sasuke's neck and apply the curse mark before Sasuke could cut him. This was all without his Sharingan which dramatically increases CQC ability to precognition. Kakashi isn't going to go through this battle without being tagged by Danzo, and when he does the Curse Mark ends him as he has no way to break out of it.



Lmao yet he hasn't used one on panel, so we have no idea which jutsu he knows so there is no point trying to use it in an argument.



For what? I hope you know Fuuton beats Raiton. So Raiton Dogs are almost useless here. Especially due to Izanagi.

I'm talking about against Baku.
 

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Mindset: Kakashi's employing every bit of his genius and strategizing every move. Danzo is feeling very sure of himself.

Why not just bloodlust?
OT: danzo takes it quite handily with baku and his wind style arsenal, without susanoo even sasuke would've lost kakashi gets wrecked without kamui
 
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