Danzo vs. Kakashi

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kakashi hi dif. kakashi never falls for the same trick so once he sees inzangi he will think up a way to counter act it and would defeat danzo.
 

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yeah, he's missing a couple things.


You need to leave and never come back like you said.

This.

The first time Kakashi was given chakra was when Kurama switched control with Naruto and grabbed Kakashi's hand.

Kurama even says the difference between you and me is that I can hand out chakra freely. Being inside Kurama's cloak does not automatically give you chakra.

Did you forget when he released Kurama?

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Releasing the seal is setting Kurama free, giving Kurama the opportunity to do whatever he wanted. Your trying to argue that Kakashi and Gai were simply cloaked in Kuramas chakra while it fought the tailed beast, and didn't receive any? L0L! They were swallowed by Kurama. It makes complete sense that in his stomach they received his chakra. Even when Naruto is in Bijuu Mode Kurama still has its own mind, just like with Bee and Gyuki. It has its own mind... so while Naruto is fighting it could still do things like..... knead and generate more chakra for Naruto when he runs low...... fuse his chakra with Narutos...... or replenish the chakra of Kakashi and Gai, especially since they were completely cloaked by him. He'd done those things i just mentioned too.

It makes complete sense. After the first day of fighting, night fell . I highly doubt all these shinobi stayed up all night with no help, specifically since medical ninja were in every division, Sakura, in Kakashis division so it highly likely overnight her and the other medics healed and restored the shinobi of their divisions. This makes the most sense because by your logic, every fodder shinobi in the whole alliance and others who did not receive Kurama's chakra until Neji died (Thats the moment everyone got it) has more chakra than Kakashi and Gai because they fought for 2 whole days and survived without Kuramas chakra longer than they had. No? Does Ino have more chakra than Kakashi and Gai? What about TenTen? Do you see the flaw in that logic now?

Besides, even in his collage of panels he is still missing some of what he claimed Kakashi had done, so he has not proved what he originally said in the first place.
 
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Setting Kyuubi free only signified the fact that Naruto was no longer enemies with the fox, not that the fox was in control. You are taking that panel out of the context that it was originally given in.

There is a difference between Naruto being in a Kyuubi powered mode and Naruto being directly controlled by the Kyuubi. The latter is shown by Naruto's eyes changing as well as his voice.

Kakashi noted when he received chakra from the Kyuubi, and expressed shock when receiving the chakra handout. If he had already received a chakra handout prior, it would not have been highlighted in the way that it was. The Kyuubi did not reference giving Kakashi a chakra hand out earlier either.

Your example makes no sense because duration of battle does not signify intensity of the battle itself. Kakashi and Gai spent their time fighting the swordsmen of the mist, Jinchuuriki, Gedo Mazo, Obito, and Madara all of which are powerful enemies. The shinobi you mentioned spent most of their time combating generic Zetsu, and when they weren't fighting Zetsu (ala Gold/Silver brothers, Asuma, Kakuzu) they had heavy support from each other and outnumbered the enemy.
 

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this has been done to death. Danzo has the ability to undo any negative thing with izanagi. Kakashi simply gets outlasted
 

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this has been done to death. Danzo has the ability to undo any negative thing with izanagi. Kakashi simply gets outlasted

Outlasted? Kakashi fought for two days. Danzo's izanagi at best is ten, one minute intervals each dropping his chakra drastically. Yet kakashi is getting outlasted? Lol that's cute
 

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Did you forget when he released Kurama?

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Releasing the seal is setting Kurama free, giving Kurama the opportunity to do whatever he wanted. Your trying to argue that Kakashi and Gai were simply cloaked in Kuramas chakra while it fought the tailed beast, and didn't receive any? L0L! They were swallowed by Kurama. It makes complete sense that in his stomach they received his chakra. Even when Naruto is in Bijuu Mode Kurama still has its own mind, just like with Bee and Gyuki. It has its own mind... so while Naruto is fighting it could still do things like..... knead and generate more chakra for Naruto when he runs low...... fuse his chakra with Narutos...... or replenish the chakra of Kakashi and Gai, especially since they were completely cloaked by him. He'd done those things i just mentioned too.

It makes complete sense. After the first day of fighting, night fell . I highly doubt all these shinobi stayed up all night with no help, specifically since medical ninja were in every division, Sakura, in Kakashis division so it highly likely overnight her and the other medics healed and restored the shinobi of their divisions. This makes the most sense because by your logic, every fodder shinobi in the whole alliance and others who did not receive Kurama's chakra until Neji died (Thats the moment everyone got it) has more chakra than Kakashi and Gai because they fought for 2 whole days and survived without Kuramas chakra longer than they had. No? Does Ino have more chakra than Kakashi and Gai? What about TenTen? Do you see the flaw in that logic now?

Besides, even in his collage of panels he is still missing some of what he claimed Kakashi had done, so he has not proved what he originally said in the first place.

Sigh. As Black Wolf said, setting the Kyuubi free didn't signify anything. The fox wasn't in control. When Kakashi first received a chakra cloak from the Kyuubi, he expressed surprise. Nothing was referenced to when they were on top of Naruto's Kurama avatar. You have absolutely no proof they were receiving chakra, because not only did they not note it, nothing was drawn to say that they were even receiving chakra.

Lol, your other argument is pitiful. Did 'Ino' and 'Tenten' fight the Jinchuuriki? The Gedo Mazo? How about the Seven Swordsmen? Obito? Madara? No, they were fighting Zetsu. And when they weren't fighting Zetsu they were receiving support.

Lol once more. I simply said that Kakashi had used eight Raikiri, five Kamui, a Doton Wall, and two Kage Bunshin, all of which are accounted for in my collage.
 
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Danzo mid diff. His fuutons negate Kakashi's raiton and cut through Doton or Suiton walls. Kakashi has no solid defense against his fuutons and will be forced to be constantly dodging them...he won't be able to kamui Baku since it takes a bit of prep time to use kamui on large objects, and he won't be able to focus on it anyway since he will be whirling and tumbling through the air.

Kakashi will hold his own until danzou either deactivates izanagi or runs out of time. likely won't resort to shisui's genjutsu, and if he does he's likely to hit a clone, Danzou is physically weak in comparison to some, and kakashi's ninja dogs are actually reasonable methods of holding danzou into place that don't waste kakashi's chakra after they are summoned... He should also be capable of the timely genjutsu trick sasuke pulled off or if Kamui ain't Restricted then It's Mid diff but without it's High Diff.
 

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Kakashi fought for two days
offscreen so he probably had medics healing him
kakashi hi dif. kakashi never falls for the same trick so once he sees inzangi he will think up a way to counter act it and would defeat danzo.
izanagis not a trick. its essentially temporary immortality. theres no plan that can beat it except outlasting danzo chakra wise.
Kakashi's current stamina easily allows him to keep the pressure up for 10 minutes. He used 8 on panel Raikiri variants, two Kage Bunshin, a Doton wall, and five Kamui. This isn't including off-panel fighting that accumulated to roughly two days of fighting (and extensive Sharingan usage in general).
can he do all tht without ever being touched once in 11 minutes?

raikiri requires getting up close with danzo. which is suicide
 

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danzo stomps. kakashi is good, but danzo is the best defensive character in the manga
Baku > Kamui
Izanagi > kamui
Fuu'ton > Kamui
juinjutsu > Kamui

its just a bad match-up as kakashi will get trolled even in the elemental advantage
 

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Kakashi is the better ninja and the better fighter by far. Danzo has hax but Kakashi has more hax, is smarter, faster, basically better in everything.
 

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People actually think Danzo is winning is!.

Kakashi has fought for 2 days non stop against 7 swords men, 6 Jinchuuriki and Obito. His stamina is no problem to keep up with Izanagi for 10 minutes.

Danzo's Fuuton attacks gets blocked by Suiton wall or Doton wall.

Baku gets Kamui.

Kakashi wins mid diff.

Kakashi has one of the worst stamina's in the series. The reason he is still alive is because he received a lot of chakra boosts from the Kyuubi. Stop being such a silly fanboy - your wanking is extremely obvious.
 

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Kakashi has one of the worst stamina's in the series. The reason he is still alive is because he received a lot of chakra boosts from the Kyuubi. Stop being such a silly fanboy - your wanking is extremely obvious.

Are we reading the same manga? I don't think we are.
 

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Are we reading the same manga? I don't think we are.

They still think its part 1 and they ignore the multitude of times Kakashi has used Kamui on his own chakra as a convenient way to downplay him Lol
 

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People are really butthurt about Kakashi's power level. Let them rant while he Kamuis their asses.
 

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Danzo wins this
 
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