Danzo vs Itachi

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Idk about the bold. Do you think Hashirama would be able to break Tsukuyomi? Danzo has Shisui's MS and Hashirama's cells which are like ninja steroids. Sasuke with 3T+Uchiha DNA+Curse mark broke Tsuku. Danzo has the best genjutsu user's MS+Hashirama DNA. Danzo breaking Tsuku doesn't sound impossible to me.

Nope. He wouldn't. If Hashirama were to be caught, he'd be done for. Sasuke with 3-Tomoe and Uchiha Blood (the requirement) broke it. Pretty sure CM was just for visual purposes in the Genjutsu, cause he wasn't in CM mode after he broke out. Danzo has Hashirama's DNA, which he can barely control, and Shisui's MS. Having the best Genjutsu user's MS doesn't mean that he has the best Genjutsu user's prowess.

He doesn't break Tsukuyomi.

Besides, izanagi rewrites history of anything negative that happens to the user, not just death. Torturous mental damage would fall under the category of something negative...after Tsuku ends, Danzo can just commit suicide and the whole thing is rewritten as a bad dream.

Well yeah, he can rewrite the damage done by Tsukuyomi, but if Tsukuyomi is used to trick him just how Itachi did, then it won't work like this.


Honestly I think 3T Itachi would push Danzo to high difficulty. He only needs Susanoo to anchor himself for a second while he lights up Baku's ass on fire.

Agreed 100%. The rest of his arsenal consists of Fuuton, inferior to Itachi's Katon, and CQC which Itachi spanks him in.
 

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after Tsuku ends, Danzo can just commit suicide and the whole thing is rewritten as a bad dream.

Honestly I think 3T Itachi would push Danzo to high difficulty. He only needs Susanoo to anchor himself for a second while he lights up Baku's ass on fire.

Just like how Itachi was planning on using Tsukiyomi on DSM Kabuto to release ET, Itachi can use it to deactivate Danzo's Izanami - where he swiftly finishes him with whatever means necessary.

I think a hypothetical healthy 3T Itachi defeats Danzo with high difficulty. He's far faster, smarter, and has much better reaction then MS Sasuke; coupled with the utilization of his bunshins, I don't see Danzo standing a chance.

With the full intel stipulation by the OP, Itachi would never get caught by Baku's suction. Right when the beast is summoned, Itachi only needs to shunshin directly under, behind, or in front of it (genjutsu) to counter it effectively. Only thing that he'd need Susano'o for is to break out of the cursed seal, but that would be under the assumption that Danzo get's the chance to first tag Itachi, and then he'd need to hope that it isn't just one of his clones. The odds of that ever happening however, is extremely unlikely, especially with full intel.

Edit: But then again, OP stated there are no restrictions so KA one shots lmao. Ignoring the OP's stipulation, I don't see 3T Itachi losing even with a lack of intel. He's close-med range fighter, with ridiculously fast execution. Baku should never be able to be utilized in such manner that'll GG Itachi.
 
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Surprised no one's mentioned Izanami

Why would it work if Danzo is not pretending to be someone else?

OT: Danzo wins with mid-high difficulty. Itachi is forced to use MS techniques to have Danzo use Izanagi, which he can only use 3 times a day. [ ] Worst case, he would collapse out of exhaustion. Not to mention the OP didn't restrict Kotoamatsukami, so there is that.
 

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Where in the manga does it state Uchiha blood is needed to break Tsukuyomi? If it was then it had to retconned because a well trained 3 tomoe can break it, according to Black Zetsu and nothing was ever mentioned about blood whatsoever. I really wouldn't take Itachis word as fact, especially considering every MS move he hyped up never lived up to their hype. His allegedly unbreakable (Tsukuyomi), unavoidable (Amaterasu), inescapable (Susanoo/Totsuka) all failed to live up to what he said.
 

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Where in the manga does it state Uchiha blood is needed to break Tsukuyomi? If it was then it had to retconned because a well trained 3 tomoe can break it, according to Black Zetsu and nothing was ever mentioned about blood whatsoever. I really wouldn't take Itachis word as fact, especially considering every MS move he hyped up never lived up to their hype. His allegedly unbreakable (Tsukuyomi), unavoidable (Amaterasu), inescapable (Susanoo/Totsuka) all failed to live up to what he said.

Part 1. Itachi states you need Uchiha blood to break Tsukuyomi. DB says the same exact thing. Itachi never hyped his flames to be unavoidable, he never hyped Totsuka to be inescapable. (Even yho no one had ever left the blade after being sealed...inb4 oro) And he only hyped Tsukuyomi to be unbreakable by non Uchiha. Is Sasuke not an Uchiha? He was last time I checked.

So. Unless Danzo is a long lost Uchiha, he never breaks this jutsu.
 

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Itachi wins this without too much difficulty. He doesn't have to spam his MS techniques as his base stats are significantly higher than that of MS Sasuke's allowing him to rely more on his natural skill, which would be conservative rather than Susano'o/Ama spam. Itachi's got this.
 

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Why would it work if Danzo is not pretending to be someone else?

OT: Danzo wins with mid-high difficulty. Itachi is forced to use MS techniques to have Danzo use Izanagi, which he can only use 3 times a day. [ ] Worst case, he would collapse out of exhaustion. Not to mention the OP didn't restrict Kotoamatsukami, so there is that.

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The jutsu was not created for those who pretend to be someone else. It was specifically created for people who abuse Izanagi, and in general for those who deny reality and their fate.

@Kidgamer

Where in the manga does it state Uchiha blood is needed to break Tsukuyomi? If it was then it had to retconned because a well trained 3 tomoe can break it, according to Black Zetsu and nothing was ever mentioned about blood whatsoever. I really wouldn't take Itachis word as fact, especially considering every MS move he hyped up never lived up to their hype. His allegedly unbreakable (Tsukuyomi), unavoidable (Amaterasu), inescapable (Susanoo/Totsuka) all failed to live up to what he said.

Itachi explicitly stating "only those with Sharingan and those who share the same blood as mine can overcome this illusion." And last time I checked, Danzo wasn't related to Itachi at all.

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Danzo doesn't have the Unrivaled Chakra that an Uchiha has nor the Quality of Chakra that Hashirama has which is required for countering the disruption of Chakra that your opponent has on you making your point moot.

If Danzo had Hashirama level of Chakra, he certainly would overcome the Psychological Trauma and break the Genjutsu's influence, but considering his ability to use the Sharingan was stated to pale in comparison to an Uchiha's ability to wield it as well as the fact that Danzo's chakra dipped massively whenever he used Mokuton, I'm going to have to say no.
 

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Kotoamatsuki solos.
People writhing paragraphs when it only takes one sentence.
 

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The jutsu was not created for those who pretend to be someone else. It was specifically created for people who abuse Izanagi, and in general for those who deny reality and their fate.

Okay...
 

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Itachi obviously wins,
izanami is a designed coutner for izanagi, then theres the obvious fact on how danzo shat his pants upon seeing itachi and never dared to lay a hand on sasuke after being threated by a 14 yr old kid
 

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Itachi obviously wins,
izanami is a designed coutner for izanagi, then theres the obvious fact on how danzo shat his pants upon seeing itachi and never dared to lay a hand on sasuke after being threated by a 14 yr old kid

koto solo
 

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Tsu is instant, while Izanagi runs on the cloak. So using Tsu benefits Danzo then it does to Itachi.

@Bold, no evidence support this.
Izanami renders Izanagi useless and then Amaterasu one shots him like it did in cannon.
 

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Lets see

Izanami > Izanagi

KA = KA

MS Itachi overall > = MS Sasuke(After danzo fight) > MS Sasuke (Danzo fight) > Danzo

Itachi wins low diff
 
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