Danzo vs. Hiruzen

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NO....fire and wind make each other stronger.

So depending on what kind of jutsu is being used, it can be used against the other.

Manga fact:

Lightning < Wind < Fire < Water < Earth < Lightning

It was explained in the chapters were Naruto was developing the Rasen Shuriken.
 

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Hiruzen needed Danzo. Danzo did the things the Hiruzen couldn't do since he was the hokage. Also Hiruzen would win. Danzo even said so

Ultimately I believe it is up to the Kage, but I think the Konoha elders persuaded Hiruzen to have Danzo help the village from the shadows (doing the things Hiruzen can't bare to do or refuses to do because of his personal beliefs).

I say this because there was a panel that showed Hiruzen's discontent that the Elders wanted Danzo to be a Batman. Can't recall which chapter.
 

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Theres no need for the discussion. Danzo admitted inferiority to Hiruzen during his death. There is a reason why Lord Second choose Hiruzen over Danzo.
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Hiruzen is suppose to be stronger, but if what we've seen is all he has as his arsenal.

Danzou>>>>Hiruzen
 

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First off Hiruzen left danzo in charge of keeping the darkside of the village in check.

2nd In a fight Danzo admits hiruzen can take him always a step ahead of him always
 

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Feats so far Danzo>>Hiruzen.
If Kishi will ever show Hiruzen's might I hope it reflects what Danzo said, but I'm afraid it will go like after Hiruzen's death Danzo surpassed him, so that Danzo who fought Sasuke was >Hiruzen and at Hiruzen's death it was Hiruzen>Danzo.
I so hope Kishi don't do this, I wld be crushed.
 

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I want to see why he was praised so high by everyone, we know everything danzo is capable of and we have some idea what hizuren can do, I'm going with hizuren though its mostly hype but he had fire element to counter his wind element so that shouldn't be a problem plus hizuren is a much better taijutsu user then danzo the only thing is I don't know if hizuren with what he has shown can make danzo use izanagi for a whole 10 minutes however Emma will be a huge help

I guarantee hype wise, hizuren would win hopefully we see more from him like Kishi showed us tobirama for a while, maybe hizuren is next but with feats, I don't think he could pull it off
 

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2nd In a fight Danzo admits hiruzen can take him always a step ahead of him always
a step ahead politically. danzo wanted to be hokage

if danzo stomps the third, then why didn't he do it and become Hokage? Have you never heard of a coup? The guy had ROOT as well as those sharingans, although im pretty sure oro hadn't given him senju dna by then. So im pretty sure the third would win, high diff.
danzo could have taken power if he let uchihas rebel and then took over in the chaos. but he didnt because he didnt want a war
Theres no need for the discussion. Danzo admitted inferiority to Hiruzen during his death. There is a reason why Lord Second choose Hiruzen over Danzo.
theres nothing more desperate in a debate than misinterpreting the manga and using their kid versions as evidence. danzo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hiruzen. KA oneshots. danzo never said "hiruzen is so powerful he can throw off the strongest genjutsu ever created" nor would he. he said that hiruzen is always a step ahead in terms of being hokage.
 

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. KA oneshots.

Not really.

If Enma is summoned and notices anything irregular in hiruzens fighting style or behavior he can just break KA for Hiruzen. Same vice versa.
So Even with KA it isn't an instant win, Especially when KA's controll seemed to be broken once mifune was aware of it, Also it's never said the effects of KA were unbreakable.
 
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Even if the KA can be broken, Hiruzen lacks the stamina to compete with Danzo's Izanagis.
 

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If Enma is summoned and notices anything irregular in hiruzens fighting style or behavior he can just break KA for Hiruzen. Same vice versa.
except with KA you can do anything with your opponents mind. send him off to sleep. make him run from the fight till hes BFR'd. make him injure himself mortally
 

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Hiruzen... as Danzo said. ;)
 

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lol scans of danzo stating hiruzen is more powerful than him

he said he will never catch up to him although i wont take the words as fact since i go with feats:

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he said he will never catch up to him although i wont take the words as fact since i go with feats:

( )

The context was not talking about skill in particular, but
accomplishments
 
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