Danzo vs Deidara

[EZQ]

Hmm, how so? He is capable of pumping chakra into a clay enough to have enough destructive force to blow up a whole village. He can fill a large ass clay shape of himself with his chakra containing millions and millions of tiny bombs and then later still have enough chakra to pump into C0 with his heart that created a 10km explosion radius. C4 must have taken a pretty big amount of chakra to create given the large ass chakra sphere that exited it.

He seems to have pretty big chakra reserves. I don't specifically see how he's gonna need chakra if he's not gonna be spamming C3 or C4 which he shouldn't do.



Pretty much what I meant.



The mine camp was set up by Tobi because he had the luxury of having a partner and not having to do so himself. If needed, Deidara can ''create'' that partner by forming a simple Clay Clone of himself and have it use his Doton jutsu to place mines around the field like Tobi did. Sasuke had trouble keeping up with C2 projectiles alone. Combine that with a coordinated attack of C2 and C1 like he did against Gaara with only C1, he should be more than capable of keeping on getting kills against Danzo. Don't really see how Fuuton helps as it can't specifically cover all sides at once, giving Deidara an opening to deliver his other bomb in.

If you want a big AoE attack then Deidara molds a shape of clay that has extra pair of wings, making his bomb faster like he did canonically. Or in the case of C2 Dragon, he can use up two or three section of his tail to make a large bomb that wouldn't give Danzo the chance to escape from the AoE. Like when Sasuke had to defend himself with a wing instead of having the chance to fly away. He can always drop the whole C2 Dragon if he wants and just keep re-making it, but that's pretty needless.



Aight.



A simple counter would be a Clay Clone, no? He's tricked a lot of Dojutsu users, ranging from two Sharingan users to a Byakugan user, with Clay Clones. The whole scenario in which Sasuke tried to strike Deidara with a Chidori is replicated.

Okay i'll try to not post a wall lol.

1- Okay you named Deidara's stamina feats. You yourself stated those were big and chakra taxing atacks. No way he can keep doing them to outlast Izanagi. You say he shouldn't spam them to beat Danzo but that's really his only choice. He can't take danzo not even once with just c2 and c1. c3 and c4 are chakra taxing.

2- Ok

3- If deidara makes the clone and sends it to put the mines the surprise element is lost. Danzo would already know a clone of deidara is underground. He obviously makes a counter to take out the clone or he could just simply aavoid touching the ground as he did against sasuke (too lazy to look for scans, Danzo used a fuuton technique to take momentum and "fly"). The latter is not as effective as the former, Danzo would probably pick to destroy the ground. And sasuke dodged C2 in base, he needed to go CM just because of the mines which are not happening here, and Danzo is as fast as base sasuke. So C2 is not giving him trouble, and Deidara can't throw bombs from all directions as you say, because that would require more clones and more bomb, outlasting Danzo with that would be even more chakra taxing than c3 or c4. So fuuton is a good counter since Deidara is not atacking from "all directions" so Danzo's fuuton doesn't need to cover aa big area, just the one were the bombs are coming from.

C2 dragon can take danzo out i'll concede on that, but not enough times to outlast Izanagi.

 

[Zexion~]

Danzo can't start and stop Izanagi, unless you can show me proof of this once used it lasts for a minute than ends. So you don't need stamina.

KG if you see this no you didn't convince me :lol.

 

[Black Mamba]

The likelihood of that being the real Deidara instead of another clay clone is pretty low.

Opposite, pretty high

 

[KidGamer65]

Danzo can't start and stop Izanagi, unless you can show me proof of this once used it lasts for a minute than ends. So you don't need stamina.

KG if you see this no you didn't convince me :lol.

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[Rιver]

Danzo can't start and stop Izanagi, unless you can show me proof of this once used it lasts for a minute than ends. So you don't need stamina.

KG if you see this no you didn't convince me :lol.

I would bring the scan but you'd still disagree.

 

[Worm]

Okay i'll try to not post a wall lol.

1- Okay you named Deidara's stamina feats. You yourself stated those were big and chakra taxing atacks. No way he can keep doing them to outlast Izanagi. You say he shouldn't spam them to beat Danzo but that's really his only choice. He can't take danzo not even once with just c2 and c1. c3 and c4 are chakra taxing.

Yes, I was arguing Deidara doesn't require C3 or C4 to beat him and C2 could make up for the lack of C3.

3- If deidara makes the clone and sends it to put the mines the surprise element is lost. Danzo would already know a clone of deidara is underground. He obviously makes a counter to take out the clone or he could just simply aavoid touching the ground as he did against sasuke (too lazy to look for scans, Danzo used a fuuton technique to take momentum and "fly"). The latter is not as effective as the former, Danzo would probably pick to destroy the ground. And sasuke dodged C2 in base, he needed to go CM just because of the mines which are not happening here, and Danzo is as fast as base sasuke. So C2 is not giving him trouble, and Deidara can't throw bombs from all directions as you say, because that would require more clones and more bomb, outlasting Danzo with that would be even more chakra taxing than c3 or c4. So fuuton is a good counter since Deidara is not atacking from "all directions" so Danzo's fuuton doesn't need to cover aa big area, just the one were the bombs are coming from.

Low chance he sees Deidara's clone going underground since Deidara has a habit of distracting his enemy's attention with an initial bomb while getting his second bomb out of enemy's point of view and surprising them. Team Guy, who were chasing Deidara the whole time, didn't notice Deidara replacing himself with a Clone and going underground while the clone used a suicidal jutsu. He can take advantage of the smoke clouds, too, like against Sasuke in order to hide his real self/his clone.

C1 isn't really taxing at all. He creates like a dozen of bombs with a single attack when it comes to C1. He is quite capable at spamming it and both C1 and C2 don't really come close to C4 or C3 in terms of how taxing they are so he should easily be able to spam them considering he was capable of using C4 + minor C4 + C0 in a single fight. What is this flight though? I don't really see that would be an useful way of dodging Deidara's mine since I'd assume Danzo would have to focus on ''flying'' and would then get rocked by another bomb.

Opposite, pretty high

Hardly. Especially not against Danzo.

 

[Chīkara]

Danzo wins.

-> Izanagi allows him to respawn where he wants.
-> Fūton: Shinkū Renpa, Is all ranges and can easily cut off C2 or C1 wings so Deidara isn't using his aerial capabilities.
-> Deidara won't trick Danzo with Genjutsu like Sasuke did in the fight.
-> Danzo is just too much to kill 10+ times with Baku and his Fuuton abilities.

Danzo mid diff.

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[Beans2]

Deidara runs out of clay.

 

[Zexion~]

I would bring the scan but you'd still disagree.

You usually bring the wrong scan anyways.

 

[Apêx1]

Danzo can't start and stop Izanagi, unless you can show me proof of this once used it lasts for a minute than ends. So you don't need stamina.

KG if you see this no you didn't convince me :lol.

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Seems like he's forcing it's non-stop activation.

OT: Deidara wins this high diff. Doubtable he will ever decide to deactivate his Izanagi without risking blowing off his legs from underground c1 centipedes. Thus he dies to Izanagi exhaustion while Deidara uses his c1 sparingly, and dodges the Futons for the most part.

Edit: this is no intel. Deidara simply ends up figuring out the Izanagi trick and baits its deactivation so that he can blow him up from beneath.

 

[Zexion~]

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Seems like he's forcing it's non-stop activation.

OT: Deidara wins this high diff. Doubtable he will ever decide to deactivate his Izanagi without risking blowing off his legs from underground c1 centipedes. Thus he dies to Izanagi exhaustion while Deidara uses his c1 sparingly, and dodges the Futons for the most part.

Edit: this is no intel. Deidara simply ends up figuring out the Izanagi trick and baits its deactivation so that he can blow him up from beneath.

You just shit on me :lol

Mines are needed for Deidara to win this fight.

 

[KidGamer65]

^ Not even sure if serious tbh.

 

[Zexion~]

^ Not even sure if serious tbh.

How....am I not serious?