Danzo really didn't care about Konoha

[whiteboy2345]

Nowhere to be found during the Sand invasion.

Nowhere to be found during the Pain invasion.

Supported the Uchiha massacre only so he could eliminate the threat of a shinobi powerful enough to stand in his way, and so he could get Sharingan's for the Izanagi.

Used the destruction of Konoha as a means of becoming Hokage.

Tried to assassinate Hiruzen, but then acts like a coup conspiracy from a clan of discriminated people is the big problem.

Sold out the Uzumaki clan so he could preserve Konoha, most likely so he could become Hokage. You can't become a Kage of a village that doesn't exist.


With these facts laid out before you, how can anyone on this forum continue to say that Danzo was a hero? Or that he loved Konoha?

 

[Nagi]

Nowhere to be found during the Sand invasion.

Nowhere to be found during the Pain invasion.

Supported the Uchiha massacre only so he could eliminate the threat of a shinobi powerful enough to stand in his way, and so he could get Sharingan's for the Izanagi.

Used the destruction of Konoha as a means of becoming Hokage.

Tried to assassinate Hiruzen, but then acts like a coup conspiracy from a clan of discriminated people is the big problem.

Sold out the Uzumaki clan so he could preserve Konoha, most likely so he could become Hokage. You can't become a Kage of a village that doesn't exist.


With these facts laid out before you, how can anyone on this forum continue to say that Danzo was a hero? Or that he loved Konoha?

We really need to find out more information on the Uzumaki clan. Cuz according to the manga, a lot of them are very much alive living in fear or away from the shinobi world!

 

[whiteboy2345]

I can't imagine that they'd be afraid to reveal themselves since the supposed hero of the world claims the Uzumaki name.

 

[Char Aznable]

Nowhere to be found during the Sand invasion.

Hadn't been created yet. Retroactively added to the story.

Nowhere to be found during the Pain invasion.

We know where he was. Underground and waiting for Tsunade to bungle the Pein Invasion. Which she did spectacularly.

Supported the Uchiha massacre only so he could eliminate the threat of a shinobi powerful enough to stand in his way, and so he could get Sharingan's for the Izanagi.

Nobody was scared of the Uchiha. Only that the coup would lead to attacks by other nations. Using the Uchiha for Sharingans was something Obito and Orochimaru helped Danzo do.

Used the destruction of Konoha as a means of becoming Hokage.

Tsuna was soft and the village's destruction was her fault.

Tried to assassinate Hiruzen, but then acts like a coup conspiracy from a clan of discriminated people is the big problem.

When?

Sold out the Uzumaki clan so he could preserve Konoha, most likely so he could become Hokage. You can't become a Kage of a village that doesn't exist.

We don't know what happened to the Uzumaki Clan. But regardless, it would've been Hiruzen's responsibility to protect them.

With these facts laid out before you, how can anyone on this forum continue to say that Danzo was a hero? Or that he loved Konoha?

Danzo sacrifced himself to protect the Leaf and the Shinobi world from two psycho Uchiha. Itachi would approve.

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[Melanin]

He cared but in a twisted way.

 

[Genocide]

Hadn't been created yet. Retroactively added to the story.


We know where he was. Underground and waiting for Tsunade to bungle the Pein Invasion. Which she did spectacularly.


Nobody was scared of the Uchiha. Only that the coup would lead to attacks by other nations. Using the Uchiha for Sharingans was something Obito and Orochimaru helped Danzo do.



Tsuna was soft and the village's destruction was her fault.



When?


We don't know what happened to the Uzumaki Clan. But regardless, it would've been Hiruzen's responsibility to protect them.




Danzo sacrifced himself to protect the Leaf and the Shinobi world from two psycho Uchiha. Itachi would approve.

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he didnt really sacrifice himself since he knew he was going to die regardless

 

[Char Aznable]

he didnt really sacrifice himself since he knew he was going to die regardless

His gambit was to attempt to kill Obito and Sasuke. Not just accelerate his own death. Plus he crushed Shisui's eye so Obito couldn't use it for his purposes.

 

[Yuka]

He cared but in a twisted way.

Indeed, those are my thoughts exactly. *_*

 

[Genocide]

His gambit was to attempt to kill Obito and Sasuke. Not just accelerate his own death. Plus he crushed Shisui's eye so Obito couldn't use it for his purposes.

i know his goal was to kill two enemies of the leaf or whatever, but there was no way he though he could get of there alive

 

[Amenotejikara]

He did.
just wanted hiruzen and tsunade killed off. infact, Ay even went as far to believe danzo was behind

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[Melanin]

He did.
just wanted hiruzen and tsunade killed off. infact, Ay even went as far to believe danzo was behind

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It wouldn't surprised me if Danzo was infact behind that entire arc or assult against the leaf, it's easier to build from scratch. It also wouldn't surprise me if he was behind the genocide of the Uzumaki clan either. Sh!t he could've had his hands in a lot.

 

[whiteboy2345]

It was revealed that Danzo tried to have Hiruzen killed in order to become Hokage, a sort of assassination attempt by using his own Root forces and Yamato's Wood Style to defeat Hiruzen.

What kind of person that loves the village would hide underground while people are above-ground, suffering and dying. If anything he was just allowing everyone else to get completely obliterated so he could rise above the ashes and take advantage of a broken village. Danzo himself was a complete psychopath and justifies his insanity by using the protection of Konoha as a curtain, all it ever was was about him. He just wanted to become Hokage.

And Danzo somehow got his hands on secret information about the Uzumaki Clan, and decided to reveal it to Iwa, Kumo, and Kiri. They took their combined attention off of Konoha and Suna and committed a mass genocide on the Uzumaki Clan in order to eliminate a threat. He literally back-stabbed Konoha's allies, clearly so the Hidden Leaf would survive. As stated before, you can't become Hokage of a village that doesn't exist.

 

[NarutoX28]

Danzo was involved in surreptitious negotiations with Orochimaru, but it was heavily implied at the beginning of Shippuden that Danzo wasn't responsible for either Kage's death. Instead, according to Yamato, Danzo was pivoting on Orochimaru's failure and desperation in order to coerce him into aiding Danzo's goals:

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I think that in itself would suggest that Danzo wasn't involved or else Danzo wouldn't have capitalized on a specific opportunity just to obtain Orochimaru's support.

It's a good theory though, but Raikage was likely talking out of his ass and making foolhardy accusations as the pretext for avoiding cooperation with the Kages.

 

[whiteboy2345]

I doubt Danzo caused either Kage to die, but I wouldn't put it past him on the idea of him trying to have Hiruzen killed. It's just all too possible.

 

[awesomeseimei]

I always saw Danzo as being delusional in a way. He was afraid to die, but at the same time believed that "self-sacrifice is a shinobi's duty" (which is why he raised his subordinates as expendable). He viewed his own actions as being for the good of the village, but he was also convinced that the village needed him (since he thought the other Hokage were soft), and his ways.

 

[Char Aznable]

Danzo followed the path set by his sensei, Tobirama. Militant strength and cold detachment for what must be done to protect the village.

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Hiruzen was the Hokage, but these things happened on his watch and he did nothing about them.

Hiruzen didn't help:

The Uchiha. Suspicion of treason before eventual massacre. After the deed was done, Hiruzen shrugged.


The Hyuga. When Ay tried to kidnap Hinata, steal the Byakugan and wage war if there was no body exchange. The theft of KKG and Jutsus being something even Ohnoki called Ay out for at the Gokage Summit.


The Uzumaki, despite the long allied ties to the Leaf. Hiruzen didn't stop their village and members from being destroyed. The 3rd Raikage, A, also made a play to kidnap Kushina right out of the village, just like his son would do to Hinata.


He didn't really help Naruto growing up. Nothing about having the villagers treat him with any kind of decency.

 

[King Of Pop]

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We know where he was. Underground and waiting for Tsunade to bungle the Pein Invasion. Which she did spectacularly.

am pretty sure when the op says nowhere to be found, he means danzo purposely did nothing to help out during the invasion all because of his twisted desire to take over. so you are helping his point if anything.

Nobody was scared of the Uchiha. Only that the coup would lead to attacks by other nations. Using the Uchiha for Sharingans was something Obito and Orochimaru helped Danzo do.

ahh the usual stuff spewed out by konoha loyalists to justify mass slaughter. the leaf was not attacked by other villages when oro invaded it. pein also destroyed it and left it vulnerable, where was this attack by other nations? and i like how the thought of others attacking the leaf being a possible consequence of the coup, yet danzo apparently didnt care about that possibility when he chose to do nothing during the pein invasion. so in others words, it doesnt matter when his own ambitions are concerned. last sentence makes no sense, pretty sure orochimaru or obito wouldnt help danzo with sharingans if the latter didnt want it

Tsuna was soft and the village's destruction was her fault.

he killed the messenger frog that was supposed to report what was happening to naruto and co thus delaying the latters arrival in which case, the village was further destroyed. shifting everything to tsunades way to excuse danzo is comical really

Danzo sacrifced himself to protect the Leaf and the Shinobi world from two psycho Uchiha. Itachi would approve.

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he did not sacrifice shit. his suicide jutsu was meant to activate

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. a situation sasuke put him in thus activating the jutsu on its own, then danzo simply sought to drag sasuke and obito to death with him.

OT. he also took away shisuis eye when the latter planned on using KA to help solve the coup. his way of caring was twisted as someone said

 

[whiteboy2345]

He clearly only cared about himself and his own twisted version of Konoha, all of his moves throughout the series proves it.

Going so far as to have two clans genocided for the good of Konoha.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Why do you guys keep bringing up the Uzumaki clan? As far as I'm aware, we know almost nothing about their destruction (just that it happened because they were feared for fuinjutsu).

 

[whiteboy2345]

I do remember seeing something where Danzo leaked information about the clan to the other villages in order to give Konoha breathing room during the war, but even if that didn't happen. All the other things that he did stick out like a sore thumb.