Danzo is Madara...

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This thread is seriously pointless..

one person who firmly believes in what he thinks will happen and wad he hopes will happen when nothing is proven yet, while the other is being realistic and seeing things as they are now in the manga..

You guys can keep arguing if he is/isnt Madara but not many people here will care until it is proven.Lets just all wait for the manga to show us wad is gonna happen.
I respect what you say, but i strongly disagree. We all have the power of choice. So if you do not like the thread or who is the one posting it, or the discussion that goes on, leave out without posting useless posts because that is called spamming or trolling.
peacefull: Kage bushin...


I: did you even know that a kage bunshin drains chakra from the user and that the bunshin can't go too far with out vanishing......
No. I did not know it. In fact neither Kishi nor anyone else knows it...



@By the way Zumo. Here is some info to think about: ... Oh wait i know. I wrote this article too......
 
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I respect what you say, but i strongly disagree. We all have the power of choice. So if you do not like the thread or who is the one posting it, or the discussion that goes on, leave out without posting useless posts because that is called spamming or trolling.


No. I did not know it. In fact neither Kishi nor anyone else knows it...



@By the way Zumo. Here is some info to think about: ... Oh wait i know. I wrote this article too......

Again here you are spreading your so called facts(theories),
1. Kage bunshin doesn't drain chakra but it disperses it evenly among the clones it is said in the manga.
2. You actually believe all of what you read in wikipedia you really are not that bright.
3. here is the link that proves that madara is the Mizukage you spamming troll




There is actual proof

ooh facepalm:)
 
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Again here you are spreading your so called facts(theories),
1. Kage bunshin doesn't drain chakra but it disperses it evenly among the clones it is said in the manga.
2. You actually believe all of what you read in one manga you really are not that bright.
3. here is the link that proves that madara is the Mizukage you spamming troll




There is actual proof

ooh facepalm:)
Got it! Madara is still the Mizukage and TOBI was his alias name.
 

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They never fought in the sense of using jutsus. They had a political quarrel.
Please tell me Whom said this?



Quick question: Do you think that the rules of Naruto aplly in real life? Because if you do, you are plainly retarted...
Now that is smart. You think the exact same way, when I give you actual proof, of something viable you dont like to compare it. But when the argument suits you can just add them into the equation, why is that?


A microscope would be greatly appreciated:).
My friend not even a micro scope could help you, cause your struggling to read even the manga, how do you think you will see anything else?


I never stated that Danzo got the injuries from political warfare. The fact that you state something that is far from truth means you are in a depserate situation, trying to alter the truth and the events. You stated that Danzo recieved the injuries from his battle with the third which is proven wrong,because he had a political warfare not a real battle, and that is what i said. The injuries could very easily be from a mission of his or a way to hide his real identity.
Exactly my point!!!!!!! You are blatantly not telling the truth to try and avoid the facts!! Please, if you dont even acknowledge the facts there is no reason for me to continue this debate!!!! The whole argument is that Danzou is a militaristic fanatic, he opposed the 3rd and that is the reason for all the bandages, and headbands across his head, its stated in the manga, I already gave you proof!! There after you come up with the stupid excuse of, that they opposed each other politically. I then told you since when do political debates result in broken bones and bandages???? You then replied with, maybe its from a mission that he received it. Do you listen to what you are saying???? The great madara, the person that is the main antagonist of the series, gets beaten so badly by retarded missions????? No please tell me you actually dont believe the BS you are selling?

Ok now you come up with a stupid comment again, its a way to hide his "true" identity, please, since when do you think a person suddenly just raps up half of his body, and walk with a limp, just for the fun of it. Hes not spiderman!!! Dont you think everybody that knows Danzou would say: hey where did you get those bandages? No, I just felt like rapping my arm up, cause its nice. And please dont tell me its from a resent mission,cause I dont think that Konoha would sent an old fart into such a dangerous mission, especially if he is an elder!!!! Facepalm, facepalm, facepalm, until the stupidity sinks in!

If you use the pink thing you claim you have, you will understand..
Still no effect on the egg price?

Ok. Next joke. There was once a man who thought that he was funny. He is no more...
Haha, why are you still here?

Because he wants him to get the ems? Madara knows that Sasuke cannot and will not defeat Konoha alone with his team and that he will have to resort to Itachi's eyes...
Thats, nice, that isnt a good reason, because Madara could have ordered Sasuke instead of Pain to go capture Naruto, I can guarantee you, the reason you supplied is a very stupid one.

-facepalm- I already know the truth. I am asking questions so as to make you understand...
Share us the truth o, obi one! As the "truth" your currently spilling is nothing but lame theories

I did not quote it...
You said it.


No. Teleportation makes plausible the theory.
So Madara is Naruto, or Kakashi, why dont he become Kakashi, or why not Choji, because he can teleport and use Kage bunshin you assume. Do you understand why one facepalm is not enough. The fact that he can teleport signify nothing other than that he can, teleport. You cant just assume he is somebody. because of incoherent theories.

Because there would be no plot now, would it?
Some people believe in the BC that you are posting I dont see why not? LOLOL No, your just over looking important things.

I am trying teacher. But you are billions meters away...
The fail is still to strong with you my patient. Please take your medication, it might prevent the stupidity from spreading to other members!!! LOL

just because you provided me with such humor I will need to rep you!!
 
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Please tell me Whom said this?
Ok. I will use logic and brain because it seems you fail to find some to use. Except for the fact that it was implied that it was a political quarrel(because you like altering the truth) here is why they did not fight with jutsus: First of all, the Third was a man of peace and it is only logical to assume he did not fight. Secondly i doubt that the other Konoha ninjas let them fight. Thirdly, i doubt two of the most talented ninjas of Konoha selected to fight and the other allowed it taking into account the fact that there was the risk of death for both of them and as result no Hokage. Finally, i doubt that Konoha let Danzo live in Konoha after a battle without banishing him. The injuries of Danzo could have very easily been from a previous mission of him, or just a way to fake his own identity.




Now that is smart. You think the exact same way, when I give you actual proof, of something viable you dont like to compare it. But when the argument suits you can just add them into the equation, why is that?
It is not happening always like this. Words and language are complicated and you can use them however you wish.


My friend not even a micro scope could help you, cause your struggling to read even the manga, how do you think you will see anything else?
I know that your brain is smaller than the words. I use a microscope to read the manga but if you say that your brain is so small that not even a microscope is enough...what can i say? Only that now i understand why you post such things...
The whole argument is that Danzou is a militaristic fanatic, he opposed the 3rd and that is the reason for all the bandages, and headbands across his head, its stated in the manga, I already gave you proof!!
And i already proved you wrong countless times but keep arguing in circles and trying to attck me personally.
There after you come up with the stupid excuse of, that they opposed each other politically. I then told you since when do political debates result in broken bones and bandages???? You then replied with, maybe its from a mission that he received it. Do you listen to what you are saying???? The great madara, the person that is the main antagonist of the series, gets beaten so badly by retarded missions????? No please tell me you actually dont believe the BS you are selling?
-facepalm- I now understand why you post craps. You believe that Madara was Danzo since Danzo was a kid...-facepalm- Have you ever read any decent theory about Danzo? No theory states that Madara faked to be Danzo since Danzo was a small kid. There was some Danzo and Madara killed him and took his identity. By the way your arguments fails by just reading it. Madara is obviously wearing bandages so as to not show sharingan..


Ok now you come up with a stupid comment again, its a way to hide his "true" identity, please, since when do you think a person suddenly just raps up half of his body, and walk with a limp, just for the fun of it. Hes not spiderman!!! Dont you think everybody that knows Danzou would say: hey where did you get those bandages? No, I just felt like rapping my arm up, cause its nice. And please dont tell me its from a resent mission,cause I dont think that Konoha would sent an old fart into such a dangerous mission, especially if he is an elder!!!! Facepalm, facepalm, facepalm, until the stupidity sinks in!
Just read above...



Haha, why are you still here?
I implied you. But because you have no brain as you have acknowledged i understand why you say that.




So Madara is Naruto, or Kakashi, why dont he become Kakashi, or why not Choji, because he can teleport and use Kage bunshin you assume. Do you understand why one facepalm is not enough. The fact that he can teleport signify nothing other than that he can, teleport. You cant just assume he is somebody. because of incoherent theories.
-facepalm- Because none of this are candidates for becoming a hokage. And all of these are social totally unlike Danzo.


The fail is still to strong with you my patient. Please take your medication, it might prevent the stupidity from spreading to other members!!! LOL
The source of fail and stupidity is you. So i cannot understand how are we gonna cure a disease if we do not destroy the root of the problem which is you.

just because you provided me with such humor I will need to rep you
We share the same feelings: Here is some rep for you...
 

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Please tell me Whom said this?

Ok. I will use logic and brain because it seems you fail to find some to use. Except for the fact that it was implied that it was a political quarrel(because you like altering the truth) here is why they did not fight with jutsus: First of all, the Third was a man of peace and it is only logical to assume he did not fight. Secondly i doubt that the other Konoha ninjas let them fight. Thirdly, i doubt two of the most talented ninjas of Konoha selected to fight and the other allowed it taking into account the fact that there was the risk of death for both of them and as result no Hokage. Finally, i doubt that Konoha let Danzo live in Konoha after a battle without banishing him. The injuries of Danzo could have very easily been from a previous mission of him, or just a way to fake his own identity.



It was said in the manga that danzou lost his arm in a fight with the 3rd Hokage. Do you even read the manga at all?
I noticed you did not resond to Madara as being the current Mizukage.


ooo
FACEPALM- learn how to spell and type where we can atleast understand you
 

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Quote:
Please tell me Whom said this?

Ok. I will use logic and brain because it seems you fail to find some to use. Except for the fact that it was implied that it was a political quarrel(because you like altering the truth) here is why they did not fight with jutsus: First of all, the Third was a man of peace and it is only logical to assume he did not fight. Secondly i doubt that the other Konoha ninjas let them fight. Thirdly, i doubt two of the most talented ninjas of Konoha selected to fight and the other allowed it taking into account the fact that there was the risk of death for both of them and as result no Hokage. Finally, i doubt that Konoha let Danzo live in Konoha after a battle without banishing him. The injuries of Danzo could have very easily been from a previous mission of him, or just a way to fake his own identity.



It was said in the manga that danzou lost his arm in a fight with the 3rd Hokage. Do you even read the manga at all?
I noticed you did not resond to Madara as being the current Mizukage.


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FACEPALM- learn how to spell and type where we can atleast understand you
LOL take a look at my threads and take a look at your treads. I doubt you are going to say that again...
 

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Ok. I will use logic and brain because it seems you fail to find some to use. Except for the fact that it was implied that it was a political quarrel(because you like altering the truth) here is why they did not fight with jutsus: First of all, the Third was a man of peace and it is only logical to assume he did not fight. Secondly i doubt that the other Konoha ninjas let them fight. Thirdly, i doubt two of the most talented ninjas of Konoha selected to fight and the other allowed it taking into account the fact that there was the risk of death for both of them and as result no Hokage. Finally, i doubt that Konoha let Danzo live in Konoha after a battle without banishing him. The injuries of Danzo could have very easily been from a previous mission of him, or just a way to fake his own identity.
O, so you think that its a politcal quarrel, YOU made the Fallacy my friend, I didnt state that, YOU stated that, thats why I said that you are telling lies! I said that they opposed eachother, and you fail to see that they did it in an open battle, just like you fail to see that that is the way things work in the ninja world. If you cant resolve the problem with politics, you take it to the battle field. Please revise your point of view. Since the 1st did it with Madara after they had a quarrel over whom will be the next Hokage!!! And no my friend, you like altering the true, you only want to see that its a political argument, because your trying to state that the 3rd was peaceful, (unlike you). Well Danzou was not so peaceful and guess what, it doesnt matter if one person hits another the other person isnt stupid enough to sit on their ars and say, you know what, Im peaceful so I wont retaliate. If you are such a person please come here so I can bash some sense into your head. It only takes one country to start a war my friend.

So your whole comeback about 2 candidates for hokages not fighting is an utter epic fail stamp!

It is not happening always like this. Words and language are complicated and you can use them however you wish.
Then why do you moan about my comment that I made about the president?

I know that your brain is smaller than the words. I use a microscope to read the manga but if you say that your brain is so small that not even a microscope is enough...what can i say? Only that now i understand why you post such things...
Then you have failed again young padwan. Have you ever tried looking at something big with a microscope. No, well then you should realize that the thing will not be as clear to you then. Please use something better to observe the manga, as you are currently failing to see certain crucial information.

And i already proved you wrong countless times but keep arguing in circles and trying to attck me personally.
No, Im merely pointing out fallacies in your theories, and if you feel that you are personally being attacked by replies from your theories, then please dont make any.

-facepalm- I now understand why you post craps. You believe that Madara was Danzo since Danzo was a kid...-facepalm- Have you ever read any decent theory about Danzo? No theory states that Madara faked to be Danzo since Danzo was a small kid. There was some Danzo and Madara killed him and took his identity. By the way your arguments fails by just reading it. Madara is obviously wearing bandages so as to not show sharingan..
Wait, wait. I feel personally attacked. LOLOLOLOL
O, so now you changed your story again, that Madara took the Identity of Danzou. Really where do you come up with this BC? Please, if you want me to answer your questions and provide you with actual insight, you will need to come clean and give me all of your theories, thus far you say that Madara teleported to Konoha, killed Danzou when he wasnt a kid anymore, then he constantly divide his Chakra to form a Kage Bunshine clone to impersonate a Elder, and rap him up with bandages for a battle that he didnt take place between him and the 3rd, but from missions, he retired and is now an elders that have just been promoted to Hokage. Ok, whats next?

Also I have already indicated to you why this is a very stupid approach since if that was true, he should have only killed Tsunade and Impersonate her. Why are you failling to see this? Is it difficult, is it to logical is it a mental block that prevents you from realizing the truth?

Just another thing for you to keep pondering. If Danzou made a Kagebunshin clone of himself. He doesnt need to hide anything, as he could just use kwame and be a normal person, so you fail again, this time of a mountain of evidence.

Just read above...
Just read above...

I implied you. But because you have no brain as you have acknowledged i understand why you say that.
Wow, now did you really. I though you where referring to yourself in the third person? You know, thats the first signs of becoming "unstable"

-facepalm- Because none of this are candidates for becoming a hokage. And all of these are social totally unlike Danzo.
I already told you about Tsunade now did I???? :rolleyes:

The source of fail and stupidity is you. So i cannot understand how are we gonna cure a disease if we do not destroy the root of the problem which is you.
I agree with you, we need to remove the disease and not cure the symptoms, here, heres a butter knife, do something with it.

We share the same feelings: Here is some rep for you...
Great, at least we are coming closer to an understanding. :D
 

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@ Zumo. Here is some proof for you:
Databook
Long ago, Danzou opposed Sarutobi Hiruzen in the running for the position of Hokage. His idea of a ninja is "one who sacrifices his own will completely for the wishes of his country and his village". Due to that outlook, he lost his chance at the position.
Ow wait. Except for narutopedia databok is as well wrong... i know...
 

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@ Zumo. Here is some proof for you:

Ow wait. Except for narutopedia databok is as well wrong... i know...
You read me as a "databok" LOLOL. No my friend, I have already told you Im not interested in the crappy databook. Im only working with the manga. Well then why dont you go and watch the anime version and tell me what they said, while your using external resources, why not use the full spectrum? I also Indicated to you with all my other posts, that its a stupid fallacy to go to that length just to obtain what you indicated. There was much easier alternatives.
 

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You read me as a "databok" LOLOL. No my friend, I have already told you Im not interested in the crappy databook. Im only working with the manga. Well then why dont you go and watch the anime version and tell me what they said, while your using external resources, why not use the full spectrum? I also Indicated to you with all my other posts, that its a stupid fallacy to go to that length just to obtain what you indicated. There was much easier alternatives.
No my friend. Kishi already implied that they did not fight and supports this idea by databook. I proved you wrong both with manga, logic and databook. I do not care if you admit it or not but you are wrong...
 

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No my friend. Kishi already implied that they did not fight and supports this idea by databook. I proved you wrong both with manga, logic and databook. I do not care if you admit it or not but you are wrong...
Sure, I feel exactly the same, the problem is just that I dont have the ability to take a picture of your face when they reveal that Madara is not Danzou.
 

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@ Zumo. Here is some proof for you:

Ow wait. Except for narutopedia databok is as well wrong... i know...
Quickly, tell me what happened when Madara wasnt chosen to be the Hokage of the village. Did he "politically" negotiate with the 1st and the elders to become Hokage? :D
 

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Sure, I feel exactly the same, the problem is just that I dont have the ability to take a picture of your face when they reveal that Madara is not Danzou.
I cannot understand how you feel the same. I have proved you already wrong with the databook and narutopedia, but you havent...
 

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I cannot understand how you feel the same. I have proved you already wrong with the databook and narutopedia, but you havent...
The fact that you are negating the questions only prove your un anticipation of those possibilities. Your theory is based on a presumptuous notion that certain criteria leads to your conclusion, I dont have to proof your conclusion wrong, I merely need to show the illogical fallacies in you premises.
 

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The fact that you are negating the questions only prove your un anticipation of those possibilities. Your theory is based on a presumptuous notion that certain criteria leads to your conclusion, I dont have to proof your conclusion wrong, I merely need to show the illogical fallacies in you premises.
LOL. Come on now. You and i know that you are wrong. Do you want to read a thread that is going to answer many questions that you think they are wrong? Here:
 

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LOL. Come on now. You and i know that you are wrong. Do you want to read a thread that is going to answer many questions that you think they are wrong? Here:
I must give it to the author, that he have spend a lot of time in that theory. However I found so many contradicting statements in his own post that he only needs to look at that to answer the rest of the questions. I do how ever would like to inform you that If your willing to import those fallacies into your equation I would be more than happy to point out to you the obvious obfuscation of those statements. So please, be my guest. Im waiting in anticipation.

For all practical reasons I have shown you all the fallacies in your theory. Please provide proof, without doubt next time, and create a sound proof theory where if you have been shown a loop hole, accept it, and build a better one.
 

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I must give it to the author, that he have spend a lot of time in that theory. However I found so many contradicting statements in his own post that he only needs to look at that to answer the rest of the questions. I do how ever would like to inform you that If your willing to import those fallacies into your equation I would be more than happy to point out to you the obvious obfuscation of those statements. So please, be my guest. Im waiting in anticipation.

For all practical reasons I have shown you all the fallacies in your theory. Please provide proof, without doubt next time, and create a sound proof theory where if you have been shown a loop hole, accept it, and build a better one.
Fallacies? Are you willing to point them out for me?
 
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