Danzō Shimura vs Mū

[KidGamer65]

The Byakugan has

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when it comes to detection but Ao, a

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Considering Ao was using HQ's sensor system, which is chakra based sensing, this doesn't change anything considering no one ever said chakra sensing can detect Mu, nor do you have any kind of scan of Ao attempting to detect Mu with Dojutsu.

 

[-6 Paths-]

Is this a f*cking joke? :| Half of this thread is just a goddamn pissing contest revolving around "Who got one-shotted by who in that one thread one time". Y'all n*ggas serious?

OT: Depends entirely on whether Danzo can see through Mu's invisibility Jutsu. Won't make any comments on that, since we've never witnessed the technique being tested against an eye technique before. There is however, of course, the fact that Madara was able to take on Onoki and Mu at the same time, and the fact that Obito, with a brand new Sharingan, was able to see through a shinobi's similar [Albeit not the same] technique, which might hint at the Sharingan being able to see through it. But there isn't enough evidence on either side of this argument to confirm whether he's able to see through it or not.
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[Bronze]

One of the very few moments I'll agree with Apex. Sharingan sees through Mu's invisibility - established and proven. The question is, though, can Danzo activate his Sharingan with Izanagi on? He never resorted this with MS Sasuke, as Obito said his Chakra would be lowered a lot more. But then again, even if he resorted this and saw Mu's invisibility, none of his arsenal have the range to attack him on air. Not Baku can guarantee when before Mu is swallowed, Jinton atomises it.

I'll go with Mu, high difficulty.

 

[Icelerate]

Do you believe your own words when you say that Mu was present during the 5 Kage Summit? Lol.

Danzo low-mid diff.

No but Ao was present when Mu was revived and he was at the HQ.

Considering Ao was using HQ's sensor system, which is chakra based sensing, this doesn't change anything considering no one ever said chakra sensing can detect Mu, nor do you have any kind of scan of Ao attempting to detect Mu with Dojutsu.

Well if dojutsu is better at tracking chakra than sensory capabilities like Apex is saying, I'd say that Ao would be stupid to not use his Byakugan in conjunction with the HQ sensor system. Though this is speculation but then again, the sharingan VS invisibility debate in and of itself is full of speculation on all sides.

 

[-6 Paths-]

Sharingan sees through Mu's invisibility - established and proven.

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[Beans2]

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Madara Rules says it can so it can.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Yeah... I'm still not convinced that the Sharingan can see Mū while he's invisible. The Rinnegan might be able to, though.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sharingan cannot see Mu. Obito only seen that invisible guy from Kakashi gaiden simply because he saw his chakra now if he couldn't see his chakra they would have to rely on hearing his footsteps which in this case either isn't happening because Mu can hide his chakra and fly so all that's useless but even with being stated Danzo still wins. ​

Is this a f*cking joke? :| Half of this thread is just a goddamn pissing contest revolving around "Who got one-shotted by who in that one thread one time". Y'all n*ggas serious?

OT: Depends entirely on whether Danzo can see through Mu's invisibility Jutsu. Won't make any comments on that, since we've never witnessed the technique being tested against an eye technique before. There is however, of course, the fact that Madara was able to take on Onoki and Mu at the same time, and the fact that Obito, with a brand new Sharingan, was able to see through a shinobi's similar [Albeit not the same] technique, which might hint at the Sharingan being able to see through it. But there isn't enough evidence on either side of this argument to confirm whether he's able to see through it or not.
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Blame it on BAC he tried to insult me because i simply shared my opinion. ​

 

[Apêx1]

No but Ao was present when Mu was revived and he was at the HQ.

Well if dojutsu is better at tracking chakra than sensory capabilities like Apex is saying, I'd say that Ao would be stupid to not use his Byakugan in conjunction with the HQ sensor system. Though this is speculation but then again, the sharingan VS invisibility debate in and of itself is full of speculation on all sides.

This is under the assumption Ao's range is large, and it is under the assumption that Mu was within any viable range regardless of small or large Byakugan range. I'm not about to give him a Hyuga's Byakugan feats when clan members have shown to use their own jutsu better than non-clan members. Either way, too much speculation to actually suggest Ao is a counter claim for any of of my points. Further supported by Beansandcornbread leaving this same topic of debate with me when things got out of his debating power, for the third time.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well if dojutsu is better at tracking chakra than sensory capabilities like Apex is saying, I'd say that Ao would be stupid to not use his Byakugan in conjunction with the HQ sensor system. Though this is speculation but then again, the sharingan VS invisibility debate in and of itself is full of speculation on all sides.

Yeah, doubt he can use Dojutsu with a chakra sensing system.

 

[Bronze]

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Read Apex's post.

 

[Beans2]

This is under the assumption Ao's range is large, and it is under the assumption that Mu was within any viable range regardless of small or large Byakugan range. I'm not about to give him a Hyuga's Byakugan feats when clan members have shown to use their own jutsu better than non-clan members. Either way, too much speculation to actually suggest Ao is a counter claim for any of of my points. Further supported by Beansandcornbread leaving this same topic of debate with me when things got out of his debating power, for the third time.

I left because it is pointless to argue with you. If you were debating Kaguya vs Madara with Madara Rules, wouldn't you eventually stop replying when you see it's going nowhere? Lol.

Basically - I've made my points and you've made yours. If we keep replying to each other out of stubborness we would only be repeating ourselves.

 

[Apêx1]

I left because it is pointless to argue with you. If you were debating Kaguya vs Madara with Madara Rules, wouldn't you eventually stop replying when you see it's going nowhere? Lol.

Basically - I've made my points and you've made yours. If we keep replying to each other out of stubborness we would only be repeating ourselves.

Yet my last post is not refutable in the first place, Lol. There was no more debate at that point, you can make whatever argument you want but at the end of the day, light is insignificant to the Sharingan. Meaning Mu's invisibility fails because it revolves around light, end of story.

 

[Beans2]

Yet my last post is not refutable in the first place, Lol. There was no more debate at that point, you can make whatever argument you want but at the end of the day, light is insignificant to the Sharingan. Meaning Mu's invisibility fails because it revolves around light, end of story.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

 

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Read Apex's post.

I did. And while he brought up good points, nothing was established nor proven on either side of the argument.​

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[Apêx1]

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

No problem, I'm sure your love for Mu won't allow you to accept this though.

I did. And while he brought up good points, nothing was established nor proven on either side of the argument.​

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It's not refutable, so it is established. Sharingan sees through dense substances and things=light being reflected is insignificant to it. Hiding with Camoflage, that was spotted by Obito's Sharingan works in the same way as Mu's invisibility. They change how light is reflected around the body. So what's there to say that it won't happen again this time? Since after all, light's reflection is not significant to the Sharingan. Him acting like the "bigger person" is for obvious reasons, and being the bigger person is not one of them.

 

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It's not refutable, so it is established. Sharingan sees through dense substances and things=light being reflected is insignificant to it. Hiding with Camoflage, that was spotted by Obito's Sharingan works in the same way as Mu's invisibility. They change how light is reflected around the body. So what's there to say that it won't happen again this time? Since after all, light's reflection is not significant to the Sharingan. Him acting like the "bigger person" is for obvious reasons, and being the bigger person is not one of them.

They've released the fourth databook?? God damn, I've been inactive for too long.

In any case, if this guy's translation is correct [

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] [Which, in my experience, tends to be the case with most of NF's members], then it would seem that you're right. Using water particles to bend light should be useless against the Sharingan, especially considering the fact that the Meisaigakure [A lower form of the technique, which does regardless rely on the same tactics.] was shown to be ineffective against a mere two tomoe Sharingan.

I'd have assumed that Mu's invisibility would be more advanced than that, considering his reputation, but I guess not. ('-' )​

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[Apêx1]

They've released the fourth databook?? God damn, I've been inactive for too long.

In any case, if this guy's translation is correct [

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] [Which, in my experience, tends to be the case with most of NF's members], then it would seem that you're right. Using water particles to bend light should be useless against the Sharingan, especially considering the fact that the Meisaigakure [A lower form of the technique, which does regardless rely on the same tactics.] was shown to be ineffective against a mere two tomoe Sharingan.

I'd have assumed that Mu's invisibility would be more advanced than that, considering his reputation, but I guess not. ('-' )​

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Lmaooo, you didn't know?!

But yea, it seems it's not as special as it initially seemed.