[Predictions] Danger! Madara may know Jinton!

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It just dawned on me that he is using Kekkei Genkis like storm release just like Naruto and possesses all the elements thanks to Hashirama's cells, the rinnegan and the juubi/bijuus. Could he fatally wound or completely destroy a character in the coming chapters with Jinton? :(
 
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He knows all elements due to the rinnegan. But he can't make KKT like the Tschusikage because something like that is in your genes.
EDIT: Like said below. He is madara after all. So it could be possible. But I doubt it.
 
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it is possible I mean its Madara afterall.
 

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It's Madara, everything is possible.
 

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He knows all elements due to the rinnegan. But he can't make KKT like the Tschusikage because something like that is in your genes.
Nope, nope, nada

OT: He might be able to, I mean he is Uchiha ****ing Madara
 

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Actually he is a step above KKT with this technique.

 

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Actually he is a step above KKT with this technique.


Doesn't mean he can do KKT. Just because Ohnoki (or whatever) can do Jiinton doesn't mean he can do a KKG with e.g. Earth and Wind release.
 

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It just dawned on me that he is using Kekkei Genkis like storm release just like Naruto and possesses all the elements thanks to Hashirama's cells, the rinnegan and the juubi/bijuus. Could he fatally wound or completely destroy a character in the coming chapters with Jinton? :(

why would he use jinton when he has the black element which can negate everything except sage jutsu (kishi will surely explain why that is at a later point).
 

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why would he use jinton when he has the black element which can negate everything except sage jutsu (kishi will surely explain why that is at a later point).

Please stop calling the gudou damas and onmyouton the same thing. They are not. the gudou damas have hit the edo kages before without permanently destroying them and Hiruzen stated they are composed of at least four elements, not just Yin and Yang release. And the gudous damas don't appear to be as fast or destructive as Jinton. Until now they've been aquious or solid objects.
 

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Please stop calling the gudou damas and onmyouton the same thing. They are not. the gudou damas have hit the edo kages before without permanently destroying them and Hiruzen stated they are composed of at least four elements, not just Yin and Yang release. And the gudous damas don't appear to be as fast or destructive as Jinton. Until now they've been aquious or solid objects.

actually the gudo dama and onmyouton are the same thing. tobirama was the one who said that the techs are based of of onmyouton and thus everyone started calling it onmyouton. madara officially called it gudo dama which is the black fluid that is in the balls that surround them and the staff. so they are the same thing we just was calling it onmyouton because of tobirama's statement. we can also assume the reason that originally the edo's didn't get earased was because obito didn't yet have full control of the

now as far as using jinton, why? technically the gudo dama does the same thing to everything, except senjutsu. the only advantage jinton has is that you can make bigger attacks with it and the gudou dama are limited to the amount they have with the balls, which they can manipulate the size to a certain extent. so no, i don't think he will be doing jinton as it wouldn't make much of a difference, but he probably could if he wanted i guess.
 

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actually the gudo dama and onmyouton are the same thing.

No, they aren't. As I stated they have hit before and not erased anything and Hiruzen stated they are composed of four elements.

tobirama was the one who said that the techs are based of of onmyouton and thus everyone started calling it onmyouton.

Do not twist translations around. He stated Obito was using techniques derived from Onmyouton. He didn't state the gudou damas were. By the looks of it, Obito laced the gudou damas in them.

madara officially called it gudo dama which is the black fluid that is in the balls that surround them and the staff. so they are the same thing we just was calling it onmyouton because of tobirama's statement.

B.S. Do not not refer to me or others as we. You are one person. Your single, invalid comprehension does not outweigh others.

we can also assume the reason that originally the edo's didn't get earased was because obito didn't yet have full control of the

There is not basis for that and if you are going to call them the same thing, that is contradictory. Basically you are saying the technique existed but its effect did not.

now as far as using jinton, why? technically the gudo dama does the same thing to everything, except senjutsu.

No, they don't. They are aquious and used to make solid shapes. Jinton is a fast, anti matter attack that demolecularizes everything around it. It's also called particle release.

the only advantage jinton has is that you can make bigger attacks with it and the gudou dama are limited to the amount they have with the balls, which they can manipulate the size to a certain extent.

No, the advantage is that its a ranged, extremely fast, none-physical, anti-matter technique. The gudou damas do not possess those properties and neither does onmyouton.

so no, i don't think he will be doing jinton as it wouldn't make much of a difference, but he probably could if he wanted i guess.

We'll see.
 

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actually the gudo dama and onmyouton are the same thing. tobirama was the one who said that the techs are based of of onmyouton and thus everyone started calling it onmyouton. madara officially called it gudo dama which is the black fluid that is in the balls that surround them and the staff. so they are the same thing we just was calling it onmyouton because of tobirama's statement. we can also assume the reason that originally the edo's didn't get earased was because obito didn't yet have full control of the

now as far as using jinton, why? technically the gudo dama does the same thing to everything, except senjutsu. the only advantage jinton has is that you can make bigger attacks with it and the gudou dama are limited to the amount they have with the balls, which they can manipulate the size to a certain extent. so no, i don't think he will be doing jinton as it wouldn't make much of a difference, but he probably could if he wanted i guess.

But the gudou dama can cancel ninjutsu, jinton can't do that.
 

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No, they aren't. As I stated they have hit before and not erased anything and Hiruzen stated they are composed of four elements.
Do not twist translations around. He stated Obito was using techniques derived from Onmyouton. He didn't state the gudou damas were. By the looks of it, Obito laced the gudou damas in them.
B.S. Do not not refer to me or others as we. You are one person. Your single, invalid comprehension does not outweigh others.
There is not basis for that and if you are going to call them the same thing, that is contradictory. Basically you are saying the technique existed but its effect did not.
No, they don't. They are aquious and used to make solid shapes. Jinton is a fast, anti matter attack that demolecularizes everything around it. It's also called particle release.
No, the advantage is that its a ranged, extremely fast, none-physical, anti-matter technique. The gudou damas do not possess those properties and neither does onmyouton.
We'll see.

ok when obito first became the jin of the juubi, he didn't have control of it's power. thus knowing this fact we can easily infer from this that techs he used would be incomplete as well. upon gaining control of the juubi he was able to cancel ninjutsu using the black fluid. the only thing that changed with the black fluid is he got more of it. it was never stated that these were two different techs as they worked axactly the same, the only difference being that now they canceled ninjutsu. we can safely assume that when he gained control of this power the technique stabilized and thus he started using it to it's fullest ability, hence why it had a new property. obito himself never named these it was tobirama. hiruzen was speculating on what it was earlier but they are hardly going to be 100% accurate on something they wouldn't have had knowledge on. also considering that those same spheres obito had are the ones madara have, it stands to reason that they both are gudo dama hence all onmyouton, or at least what people called onmyouton. but whatever i don't wanna have a big discussion about it.
 

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Doesn't mean he can do KKT. Just because Ohnoki (or whatever) can do Jiinton doesn't mean he can do a KKG with e.g. Earth and Wind release.

He is very able to use all forms of KKG&KKT due to the fact he can use up to four nature transformations at once including yin yang and senjutsu we can know for a fact that Madara has the requirements needed for ALL jutsu
 
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