Damn Son...I Didn't Want to be Right About This....I Really Didn't

[Mikasa Hagaromo]

Damn....reviewing threads about whether Sasuke was still in the village from last year.

SasuSaku fans fought and fought but were thrashed by reality YET AGAIN :-(

While a few things remain to be proven without a shadow of a doubt, I've been right like 95% of the time so far.

Damn son.

A SMALL sampling from one thread (though there are many more) from 2014:

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Just read the red

Man...it's as if some of you don't know Sasuke at all.

Sasuke is NOT a deadbeat father, BUT he IS absent A LOT.

Why? Because Sasuke has laser sharp focus and when he fixates on something, nothing else matters.

To Sasuke, protecting the peace tht Itachi suffered for and ensuring the Kaguya stuff never happens again is supreme.

When he had a kid, the kid became an ADDITIONAL motivation for him dedicating himself even more to his work. To him, ensuring Sarada never suffers the way he did is a very real concern.

To him, being away a lot is a NECESSARY part of the mission.....if he can't see his child, so be it....the mission is supreme...

It doesn't mean he doesn't care about his child, it just means his responsibilities, his life mission requires him to be away a lot, but it's also for her sake.

Sasuke has never been one to learn from other's mistakes....in fact, he tends to repeat them....so, I predict he'll be just like Itachi and his father was toward him: DISTANT...but motivated by love....everything he does is bc of love, but he'll never show that love until she's about to die or something...Sarada won't know how much she means to her daddy until something extreme happens, then she'll come to understand him....

...his ACTIONS will be driven by love, but he won't show it.....we will NEVER, EVER see Sasuke smiling and joking around with Sarada...

Instead, he'll invest in making her as strong as possible bc that's how he shows his love....making her strong for her own good and to enable her to continue protecting the peace when she gets older...

....Sasuke will be a "good" dad...but a good dad HIS way.....Sasuke has always been about doing things his way.....he will never be a typical dad....

....Sarada is frustrated with him bc she doesn't understand why everything else seems to come before her and her mom....that's also why she thinks Bolt is an idiot....yea, she thinks he's dumb for misbehaving, but also bc to her, wtf is he acting up for? At least he gets to see his dad every day.

I picture Sasuke like Gin from Hunter X Hunter....he keeps tabs on Sarada, probably knows how her grades are, but an every day presence giving her piggy back rides and shit?....NOPE.....that Sasuke is gone.....the pre-massacre Sasuke is gone....the most we'll get is the part 1 Sasuke who never really showed his feelings, but would put his life on the line for you....

Also...IDK where this "she called him papa stuff comes from"...in Viz she says, "when it comes to dads, we're both totally oh yea".....she never specifically called Sasuke papa...she was talking about dads in the general sense.....yea "dad" is an informal way to refer to one's father, but she's clearly unhappy with him....based on the context, she clearly thinks he's a jerk.

NOPE...in VIZ He speaks in the PRESENT tense in 699 (he doesn't speak in 700)....he's STILL traveling

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SASUKE is Naruto's GIN....there is too much of the world to see and learn and correct to sit in that old raggedy village.....Sakura doesn't have what it takes to keep him home, and he feels his mission is for the good of his child....the Leaf can't hold a Sasuke Uchiha....dude is traveling and stops in once in a while like Jiraiya.

Seems to me that this supports the possibility that he's STILL traveling....

We don't know that he's "with, with" her...we ONLY know that they have a kid together...that's all.....we do indeed see TWO Uchiha symbols in the house, both of which are half hidden symbolizing how scarce his physical presence is in their lives....he likely left those trinkets for Sarada....

...but even if he was with her, Sasuke calls the shots....end of story.....this is NOT a situation of two equals....Sasuke is the alpha male, Sakura is the chick who'd bend over forward and backward to get him and keep him....that's it.....she hasn't and shows no sign of standing up for herself or speaking up if she was unhappy with a decision he made.....IF they're together AND she's happy, it's bc HE decided to put in the effort of his own fruition on acct of factors OUTSIDE of her....Sakura is and will always be a non-factor in Sasuke's decisions and development....even if he decided to remain an *******, she's still role over and take it bc those are the dynamics of this "relationship" until Kishi shows us otherwise--which he won't, bc he can't without ruining Sasuke's character... Sakura is going to HAVE to look a little pathetic even if they end up really being a legitimate couple....

....and while Sasuke absolutely cares for Sakura as a comrade...and the obviously had a tryst, the most we or Sakura are going to get from Sasuke is his part 1 self (in terms of personality), which was mainly focused on what his purpose was at the moment....AGAIN...Sakura is and will always be a non-factor in Sasuke's decisions and development

...now, Sasuke is looking at the bigger picture....his purpose in life is bigger than being at home everyday....it's maintaining the peace Itachi died for through the cooperation he and Naruto now understand...

Anway....if I recall our previous interactions correctly, you'll have me on here going back and forth all night and I ain't about that life...

Take or leave my opinion....part 3 and the movie will prove one of us right and the other wrong.....I'm going to bed. Good night

This assumes she has GROWN when it comes to Sasuke....she hasn't grown at all....as far as Sasuke is concerned, Sakura is STILL her 12 year old self. There is NOTHING in the final chapters to indicate otherwise. Lord knows I WISH there was.

But, if I want to be more generous with her ...yea...she probably understands.....at least I hope to god she at least does that.

EDIT: And what I mean by what she wants being the least of his concerns is Sasuke now has a HIGHEr purpose....he sacrifices time with his child for this purpose bc it means maintaining world peace....being at home with Sakura IF they're a legit couple-is the least of his concerns when world peace and ensuring his child has a bright future is at stake.

I was never one of those ppl who claimed Sasuke didn't care for Sakura....he absolutely did in part 1 and does now....and he's grateful to her for all she has done for him....but the family man picture some ppl are trying to paint of him is NOT true to his character....even when Sasuke was sane, he was still aloof, but he showed he cared in subtle (like complimenting Sakura's improvement in genjustu) and extreme ways (sacrificing his life for Naruto)......outside of that, as long as he knew your life wasn't in danger and your were ok, Sasuke wasn't trying to spend time with them and hang out an stuff......

...furthermore, Sasuke is a mission focused person.....he has a one tracked mind just like Naruto.....if his mission is to travel the world and help maintain peace from the shadows, then he'll do that even if it means sacrificing time with his family (child)......and nothing Sakura says or wants will change that....she can't change his sense of higher purpose.....she simply doesn't have that kind of influence over him

Then there are these:

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You guys have cited MANY good reasons why SasuSaku is ****ed up, but I haven't seen anyone mention the very important matter of the balance of power in their relationship.

I'm all for forgiveness. I can get past Sakura ending up with him. The ONLY reason I have issues with this pairing is bc SAKURA REVERTS TO HER CHILDLIKE SELF when around Sasuke and everything is on SASUKE's terms.

Look at these PATHETIC panels. These are TERRIBLE optics for a relationship:

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These panels don't look like two ppl with romantic interest to me. This looks like one of them is in complete control of the situation (Sasuke) and the other looks childlike (Sakura.) And please note that while the forehead thing was something special between Sasuke and Itachi, note the relationship dynamics between Sasuke and Itachi. Sasuke always looked up to and chased after Itachi and Itachi did the forehead thing to 1- show love, 2- keep him at a distance. When Itachi truly stripped himself of his defenses and embraced Sasuke, he did forehead to forehead.

Although Sasuke has returned to his part 1 self and although he UNQUESTIONABLY cared about Sakura in part 1, he was still a bit blunt and aloof. It would be one thing if Sakura could brush off his bluntness and genuinely not be affected by it, but it often hurt her feelings. Sakura is not emotionally equipped for a guy like Sasuke (Karin, however is but that's off topic).

All that's going to happen in this relationship is Sasuke's going to dominate and call the shots and Sakura going, "...oh....ok..."..... just like in part 1.....she sure has a lot of mouth when it comes to Naruto and others, but she folds like a paper fan when it comes to Sasuke. NOT good for a relationship AT ALL. It's expected that she'd be gentle and affectionate toward him, but you still have to be able to hold you ground when you feel your spouse is making an unwise decision. Not her though. SMDH.

Sasuke's going to roam the world bc that's what HE wants to do without consideration of the needs of his wife and child (though he has very good reasons for roaming the world) and Sakura is going to sit there and take it while feeling sad, lonely, and emotionally neglected, bc she loves him and is just happy to have finally landed him.

What this amounts to is Sakura being able to FINALLY land Sasuke, but not having what it takes to keep him at home. If they're featured prominently in part 3, expect him to completely ignore her on-panel and have her pop up randomly pregnant just to remind us that, '...oh yea, they're married. I forgot...'

We have NOT seen Sakura make ANY demands of Sasuke or do anything to indicate while her love was long suffering, she's an equal in the relationship and will expect Sasuke to consider her in his life decisions from here on out (though I HOPE and PRAY that we'll see it in the movie....not holding my breath though).

Kishi did seem to hint at Sasuke seeing the light with Sakura in 699 when he said, "...I feel like now I'll be able to see things I've overlooked..." here:

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Now, obviously he was talking about the state of the world, but he may have very well been also talking about Sakura and how she has always been there for him.

Even with that, though, I can't see Sasuke being as affectionate and thoughtful as I think Sakura's type would need to be happy.

Here's a really good (and hilarious) vid that breaks down their relationship very well, IMO:

[video=youtube;s8LfAWt45qE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LfAWt45qE[/video]

Not at all. I've been NaruHina from DAY ONE. I wanted Sakura to end up with a fodder like Sai or Lee. I would've been ok with her ending up with Sasuke if she punched him in his face or something bc that would've been a signal that she'll have a backbone when she was with him.....it would symbolize some growth....but alas, Kishi shat on her character once again.



Yea, there's the 'head' of the household, but Sakura isn't just a woman who acquiesces to her hubby as the head. She becomes child like and meek. Not cool. Not cool at all. When they were younger she never really expressed her opinions or was fuly herself around him. Unless Kishi shows some major development in the movie, I'm afraid their marriage will be a hot mess...at least for her....Sasuke will be off doing his own thing and having everything on his terms.

 

[superturtle]

Sasuke making a strong case for shittiest manga/anime father and husband. Goku is a chill dude at the very least and Vegeta takes his kid to the park (after punching him in the face but still.)

 

[Dantee]

wow not bad.

 

[New Dawn]

Cliche. Dad has too much things to worry about at work and neglects his child.

 

[Yashoda]

You're right you are right.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Reading through threads with SS excuses is pretty funny. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Gerkak]

Nice.

 

[-Punk-]

"I feel bad for you son"

 

[lndra]

:Lol this thread

 

[Gagster]

As if it wasn't obvious.

 

[Madara the Solo King]

They are trying to escape reality.

 

[Chibiusa]

Damn, son...where'd you find this at?