CyberConnect 2 is just god awful at making games.

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The DLC needs a reference on disc to be added, therefor, all the DLC that will be released, was planned since before the game even launch; so no. They could be spending their time doing something better.

Now, I agree that Storm 3 didn't live up to the hype, at all, and that the choices for DLC were poor. But if they released a game that pleased absolutely ****in' everyone, would there even be a point to make a sequel? No. They didn't put certain characters in this, so they could be hype for 'Generations 2'. Which will also succeed at pissing everyone off.

In other words, why release a .99 DLC pack with Akatsuki Orochimaru and a handful of others, if you could do it in the next game after your consumer shells out another sixty for that game? Because it's all about marketing. lol

yeah generations 2 more fkn pts characters
 

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And when Storm 4 comes out, your ass is gonna be buying it anyway.
 

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The DLC needs a reference on disc to be added, therefor, all the DLC that will be released, was planned since before the game even launch; so no. They could be spending their time doing something better.

Now, I agree that Storm 3 didn't live up to the hype, at all, and that the choices for DLC were poor. But if they released a game that pleased absolutely ****in' everyone, would there even be a point to make a sequel? No. They didn't put certain characters in this, so they could be hype for 'Generations 2'. Which will also succeed at pissing everyone off.

In other words, why release a .99 DLC pack with Akatsuki Orochimaru and a handful of others, if you could do it in the next game after your consumer shells out another sixty for that game? Because it's all about marketing. lol

I never suggested that the price for the characters have to be that ridiculously low.That is not the point being made.The pricing of the matter is a different subject.Its about actually getting that content and they won't deliver and has made many people upset and that is not good marketing.

If you make a game with a big franchise attached there will always be people willing to buy it but,if that is all your going for if definitely won't max out your profits

" if you could do it in the next game after your consumer shells out another sixty for that game?"


That is why i said there treating people like little kids.This particular DLC is poor and is little more then a cash grab..However were not 12 and anime has a wide audience and they still treat it as if only little kids watch it.Also these games are not exactly top tier games or winning at game awards anytime soon so making fans angry is not a way to win more fans over or a way to get older fans coming back.

I mean you can't literally give the people same exact experience especially not in a fighting game.
 
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I never suggested that the price for the characters have to be that ridiculously low.That is not the point being made.
The pricing of the matter is a different subject.Its about actually getting that content and they won't deliver and has made many people upset and that is not good marketing.

" if you could do it in the next game after your consumer shells out another sixty for that game?"
If you make a game with a big name attached there will always be people to buy it but,if that is all your going for if definitely won't max out your profits and that is why i said there treating people like little kids.They think if they put it out all naruto fans will buy it.And that is why there is so many knock offs of popular games/movies come out their cash grabbing the parents/grand parents not knowing the difference who see something there kids might like and buy it which is exactly what you just mention.However were not 12 anime has a wide audience and they still treat it as if only little kids watch it.

Actually, I was using the price as an example, but as you mentioned that's not the point.

I agree with you in this sense. If they release a Generations 2, I will buy it unbiasedly as I normally do but if I splurge and buy a net gen console and Storm 4 (or whatever they call it) and it's another Storm 3, that'll be my last one.

I came to this thread, opposing you because the title says they are God Awful at making games. They aren't. Ultimate Ninja 1 through Storm 2 are proof enough for that. They also created a fighting game that isn't a ripe off of Street Fighter, Virtual Fighter or Tekken. They aren't bad at making games, they just make bad business decisions.
 

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Actually, I was using the price as an example, but as you mentioned that's not the point.

I agree with you in this sense. If they release a Generations 2, I will buy it unbiasedly as I normally do but if I splurge and buy a net gen console and Storm 4 (or whatever they call it) and it's another Storm 3, that'll be my last one.

I came to this thread, opposing you because the title says they are God Awful at making games. They aren't. Ultimate Ninja 1 through Storm 2 are proof enough for that. They also created a fighting game that isn't a ripe off of Street Fighter, Virtual Fighter or Tekken. They aren't bad at making games, they just make bad business decisions.

"They also created a fighting game that isn't a ripe off of Street Fighter, Virtual Fighter or Tekken. They aren't bad at making games, they just make bad business decisions."

True.I should change the title ever so slightly then.
I was not aware that that they made virtual fighter

Hopefully their bad business decisions don't cause them too make too many bad games casue, virtual fighter & tekken can't hold their reputation up by themselves.
 

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you sound like you live a very mediocre life . i bet you have a holden lol

As long as the car works. I don't own a Holden though.

"I don't know why you guys are complaining. Storm 3 is a great game."
I wasn't talking about the quality of the game itself (Well, i was at first,but not my main point)
If you can't be bothered to read why would you bother posting ?
I am talking about DLC not the mechanics of the versus mode

Even if they offered character DLCs, you guys would whine anyway complaining that you got ripped off since they should've been in the game from the start.

Even after not knowing what the thread is about you still babble as if you do.Why ?
Why make such an empty assertion on a thread when you don't know what its about ?
Please don't have children

The two bold points. One: The title of the thread is calling CC2 a shitty developer, so I think it's a pretty significant part of the thread.

Two: You're whinging about DLC.
 

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I wouldn't say they're 'god awful at making games' since they did make some decent ones on PS2 back in the day.

It's just that lately, they've become quite lazy and unresponsive to their customers. Think back to Ultimate Ninja 3 or Ultimate Ninja 5, and how much content was packed into those games. Now look at recent Storm installments, with a lack of characters and no jutsu customization. Over the last couple of years, it seems they haven't been putting the same amount of quality into their games as they used to. Perhaps that is due to working on numerous projects at once, or because it's not as easy to create games for Xbox360/PS3 as it was for PS2.

All I can hope is all the drama surrounding Storm 3 has given them the incentive to work harder on their next games. It's clear that fans don't want crappy or overpriced costume DLC, and we don't want a lack of combos/stages/characters.
If CC2 fails to realize the concerns of their audience, then I'm sure they're going to realize a sharp drop in sales for their next projects.
 

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Yeah, I agree. Most companies become obsessed over money now adays.

It's funny, if these companies actually thought (Capcom, Cyber Connect, Bioware...) and just put some form of effort into the DLC and actually gave us what we want instead of shit like this Kage pack (I'd pay top dolla for a pack like my sig.) they would have more people inclined to buy their shitty DLC.

It would be a win situation for them.

The video game industry isn't always about what you [ the fans] want, it is about what they want to make/ have time to make as well. Life isn't about Me , Me, Me ; I mean unless you can make a game your self , deal with multiple game projects and still worry about whiny ass fans.

Except Capcom/ Square Enix cause they are falling off and fallin hard
 

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As long as the car works. I don't own a Holden though.



The two bold points. One: The title of the thread is calling CC2 a shitty developer, so I think it's a pretty significant part of the thread.

Two: You're whinging about DLC.

If you don't like the thread, don't respond, simple.
That what this whole thread is about, he's complaining about how they steal your money and don't give you what you want. On top of that, supposedly they were false advertising the Kages but scrapped them from being playable for whatever reason. Also keep in mind that they did have a thing on their site stating suggestions that should be in the game. I can tell you that was all for hype for them to buy their game because I guarantee a little to none of the suggestions got implemented in the game

OT: Storm 3 is terrible, my brothers have it, I was going to buy it, but I'm like nah.
Storm 4 is not at the top of my list for summer Christmas because of this
 

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If you don't like the thread, don't respond, simple.
That what this whole thread is about, he's complaining about how they steal your money and don't give you what you want. On top of that, supposedly they were false advertising the Kages but scrapped them from being playable for whatever reason. Also keep in mind that they did have a thing on their site stating suggestions that should be in the game. I can tell you that was all for hype for them to buy their game because I guarantee a little to none of the suggestions got implemented in the game

OT: Storm 3 is terrible, my brothers have it, I was going to buy it, but I'm like nah.
Storm 4 is not at the top of my list for summer Christmas because of this

Never said I didn't like the thread. I just didn't agree with what OP was talking about. He's complaining about nothing. They aren't stealing your money - you're purchasing content if that is what you want to purchase. Just because it's on a game store, doesn't mean you have to purchase it. God forbid you don't get what YOU want.

The kages were never advertised as being playable - they were shown to be in the game. They aren't even that special anyway. Mizukage is Deidara, Kazekage is Gaara, Tsuchikage is Onoki and the Raikage is A.

Storm 3 is by no means a bad game. Sure it's lazy, but not bad. If you think it's a bad game, maybe you should play Superman 64; Mindjack; Naughty Bear; or 98% of movie based games.
 
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