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Oh, please, who are you to tell me what's wrong or right. And who are you to judge me. Everyone got their own opinion and that's why I left my personal comment without quoting anyone else, even if I wanted to do so. And I did that for the only reason that I didn't want to start an arguing with someone because I know this always ends up bad.
You started it mister. And I wouldn't mind it either if you'd just tell that you didn't agree with me but no, you had to to state in an outrageous way just to point out that you are right and I am wrong. Anyway what makes you sure that I am wrong? Who knows, maybe you're the one having it wrong.

And I don't know what love is, right? Well, to tell you sir, I was talking by my personal experience, because I had half-started a relationship in the net and guess what, it ended up in the worst way.
Each person has their own opinion on what love is, and based on that they take their decisions about their life.

Well, then again, if I am wrong enlighten me with what love is. But make sure that you know the difference between a real love and an online chatting in the net. Because, yeah, I know that there are many amazing people out there, that are great friends for me and support me in every moment I need them. But there are also fake people that have failed in their life, and what they do, come online and pretend to be someone they're not.

As a conclusion, I wanted to say that online love can exist but it really is hard to keep decent and be loyal to the person you love. If you love someone in the net, sure, chat and get to know well, but if you never meet each other in real life, then that relationship and that love is destinated to fail. And don't ask me why because the reasons are quite obvious.
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I sure didn't expect this from your part, quoting me along all those people that thought the same as me.







Meh, maybe, maybe.

You always find a video for every moment, don't you? xD

this was not about you, so try not to be arrogant, you insulted the Greatness of Love by saying its pointless if its far away, Love has no limits, and it is certainly much Nobeler than you make it out to be!

you say physical is important right?, then i wouldnt care if you're on the moon, if i loved you, i would have found a way to be with you, end of discussion.
 

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this was not about you, so try not to be arrogant, you insulted the Greatness of Love by saying its pointless if its far away, Love has no limits, and it is certainly much Nobeler than you make it out to be!

you say physical is important right?, then i wouldnt care if you're on the moon, if i loved you, i would have found a way to be with you, end of discussion.

First of all no one is making that argument. You have to have both the physical and emotional aspect of love in most cases. I can tell you if I fell in love with someone over the internet and I talked to them all the time without ever meeting them in my lifetime I would not love them as much as someone I had been physically with.
 

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somebody is envious O:

Heck no! Go on please~ o.o

this was not about you, so try not to be arrogant, you insulted the Greatness of Love by saying its pointless if its far away, Love has no limits, and it is certainly much Nobeler than you make it out to be!

you say physical is important right?, then i wouldnt care if you're on the moon, if i loved you, i would have found a way to be with you, end of discussion.

I am not arrogant goddamit! I would actually respond to this but you're not reasonable so I'll just leave it. Have fun on your true love.
 

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Heck no! Go on please~ o.o



I am not arrogant goddamit! I would actually respond to this but you're not reasonable so I'll just leave it. Have fun on your true love.

lol, i apologize, i meant no disrespect.

im sure you're a wonderful Girl :)
 

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lol, i apologize

We accept. ...So anyways to all the reasonable and common sense minded people in this thread (not you Dominus), where did we left off before this? :rolleyes:
 

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Meh, to each their own. Why are you guys even arguing? at the end of the day who cares? If you believe in it do it, don't let people tell u it cant work. If u don't believe in it then just don't do it and leave others do it.

I personally haven't .-. but I cant say anything b/c once I said I would never ever think of dating an older person and then I met someone who was in her early 20's (22) 3-4 years older.
I'm still not 100% okay with dating older ppl but you always find that one person..so U_U I wont argue that it's okay or that it's wrong when I haven't been with someone online.
 

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We accept. ...So anyways to all the reasonable and common sense minded people in this thread (not you Dominus), where did we left off before this? :rolleyes:

i didn't apologize to you
 

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I'm not into it, but for anyone who does it, high five to you. I really don't see a difference in it and a face-face relationship, but it's just not my style.
 

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I'm not into it, but for anyone who does it, high five to you. I really don't see a difference in it and a face-face relationship, but it's just not my style.

The difference is that the other one is not a relationship. Or even real. I see huge differences. Not trying to bash someone but that's just the way it is.
 

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It's wrong, in my opinion.
With the exception of few cases who are able to fortify and give meaning to an empty and groundless relationship like an online one, most of them end in tears, disappoints, and even suicide. The more attached you get to a person, the bigger the agony of not being able to really do anything about it, other than typographic ***. Which is pretty damn sad, if you ask me.
 
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The difference is that the other one is not a relationship. Or even real. I see huge differences. Not trying to bash someone but that's just the way it is.

Well, I do agree in the big difference part. I'd rather be in a relationship with someone I can smile at, hug, high five, you know, touch, but it's still a relationship in my opinion. It just lacks the face to face factor which is extremely important in my opinion. Not touching, but being in the same presence of them is something you can't have online. But I still say it's a relationship. Just my opinion.
 

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cyber love is something good. in this case i think that is the best way to date nowadays because people want to speed things up and force love on each other but with cyber love you actually to get to know each other before you even get to see each others face. it's best to become friends before becoming lovers.
 

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Meh. Yes, meh really does summarize my feelings about this.
Really, I don't know whether or not it's an irregularity within my mindset, but I don't see a relationship as something physical. If one is merely looking for something physical, there are prostitues in the bigger cities and you'd be surprised of how many females will have *** with you, if you just make your intentions clear from the very start. Contrary to popular beliefs, most women do masturbate and most women do like ***. Really, boys and lesbians, almost everyone has needs. In a way, I guess my point there was slightly irrelevant, but I did want to make it clear. One can easily have a partner in another country. Touch is not a necessity.
Someone stated how, when he had met, in person, with a female whom he had encountered on the internet, they had known almost everything about each other and, subsequently, their relationship quickly got boring. Well, to be honest, I think you must've had very little to talk about. Personally, I enjoy debates and discussions of all kinds, I can still exchange oppinions and thoughs with a friend or partner, even if I do know what kind of butterfly they have tattoed on their buttocks. Again, point is that personal information makes for a good conversation, but it's a one-way trip most of the time. If you can't keep a conversation alive without exchanging personal information, I don't see how you would be able to keep your relationship exciting and 'fresh' for a longer period of time. Unless, of course, the *** is good. Very good.
To me, being close physically doesn't mean as much as being close mentally. I like the feeling of just talking, voicing thoughs and ideas. Where real-life offers a chance to meet women and impress them then and there, the internet opens up new doors in the category of 'romance'. On the internet, for example, age doesn't have to matter. Where age would potentially be a big border in real-life, if the difference was big enough, age doesn't even have to be a factor on a chat-room. The fact is that the internet allows one to judge other people based solely upon what they say, what their oppinions are and how their personality is. With all due respect, Don/Doness (I made the latter up) Juan(a), it gives your victim a chance to size you up for a longer period of time and get to know you. As in you, not the bar-you.
Honestly, for people such as me who value dialogue and a psychological connection way more than they do the physical aspects of a relationship, I think the internet is a good alternative. If not a good first-choice.
 

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Someone stated how, when he had met, in person, with a female whom he had encountered on the internet, they had known almost everything about each other and, subsequently, their relationship quickly got boring. Well, to be honest, I think you must've had very little to talk about. Personally, I enjoy debates and discussions of all kinds, I can still exchange oppinions and thoughs with a friend or partner, even if I do know what kind of butterfly they have tattoed on their buttocks. Again, point is that personal information makes for a good conversation, but it's a one-way trip most of the time. If you can't keep a conversation alive without exchanging personal information, I don't see how you would be able to keep your relationship exciting and 'fresh' for a longer period of time. Unless, of course, the *** is good. Very good.
To me, being close physically doesn't mean as much as being close mentally. I like the feeling of just talking, voicing thoughs and ideas. Where real-life offers a chance to meet women and impress them then and there, the internet opens up new doors in the category of 'romance'. On the internet, for example, age doesn't have to matter. Where age would potentially be a big border in real-life, if the difference was big enough, age doesn't even have to be a factor on a chat-room. The fact is that the internet allows one to judge other people based solely upon what they say, what their oppinions are and how their personality is. With all due respect, Don/Doness (I made the latter up) Juan(a), it gives your victim a chance to size you up for a longer period of time and get to know you. As in you, not the bar-you.
Honestly, for people such as me who value dialogue and a psychological connection way more than they do the physical aspects of a relationship, I think the internet is a good alternative. If not a good first-choice.

Good post, but...

Bolded ones: that's deceiving either yourself or her or both. Those are shortcuts. It's not you, thus delusion thus not real. Ultimately relationships should work irl after "internetdating" and with those kind of basis, it won't.

Being on internet talking to someone can't be possibly in the sense of logic be defined as a "relationship". That is if you haven't even met that other person before or won't.

I like the way you are thinking, but declaring internetchatting to relationship just because it's more easier and gives more elements to getting to know someone, is not how it should go.

Obviously it's also an opinion, but if we look at dictionary word "relationship", the one where there are two human being envolved is being considered as an "intimate relationship" nothing more, nothing less.

So I think, no matter how fun or easy it sounds, people should stop making the meaning relationship to be something it isn't.

Ofcourse it can be described as, connection, or something like that, but relationship? No. There's just so many aspects of it taken way in internetdating that the one that is left, is nothing close to an actual relationship. It's just talking to a bitspace.
 
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Good post, but...

Bolded ones: that's deceiving either yourself or her or both. It's not you, thus delusion thus not real. Ultimately relationships should work irl after "internetdating" and with those kind of basis, it won't.

Being on internet talking to someone can't be possibly in the sense of logic be defined as a "relationship". That is if you haven't even met that other person before.

I like the way you are thinking, but declaring internetchatting to relationship just because it's more easier and gives more elements to getting to know someone, is not how it should go.

Obviously it's also an opinion, but if we look at dictionary word "relationship", the one where there are two human being envolved is being considered as an "intimate relationship" nothing more, nothing less.

So I think, no matter how fun or easy it sounds, people should stop making the meaning relationship to be something it isn't.

Ofcourse it can be described as, connection, or something like that, but relationship? No. There's just so many aspects of it taken way in internetdating that the one that is left, is nothing close to an actual relationship. It's just talking to a bitspace.

I didn't quite mean it like that.
Say, if you met a thirty-five year old woman in a bar, you'd immediately know that she was about thirty-five years old. The fact that she is thirty-five would immediately have an effect on how you would approach the lady, with which intentions you would approach her, etcetera. On the etherwebs, age wouldn't be a block in that way. Of course, if the first question you ask is "asl?" you'd be smashing it for yourself, but as long as you keep a conversation natural and communicate the way you want to communicate, you allow the other person to get a look at you as you. If you catch my drift.
 

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I didn't quite mean it like that.
Say, if you met a thirty-five year old woman in a bar, you'd immediately know that she was about thirty-five years old. The fact that she is thirty-five would immediately have an effect on how you would approach the lady, with which intentions you would approach her, etcetera. On the etherwebs, age wouldn't be a block in that way. Of course, if the first question you ask is "asl?" you'd be smashing it for yourself, but as long as you keep a conversation natural and communicate the way you want to communicate, you allow the other person to get a look at you as you. If you catch my drift.

Yes true, and that's interesting way of getting to know someone, but the point I was making is that it isn't real thus works only in dreamlike state called internetdating where people can twist the reality the way they want.

I get what you are saying but my approach to this is straightly a realistic. I won't call something something it isn't. Otherwise I agree with you.
 

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A very large amount of todays relationships start online. One friend of mine met his wife playing World of Warcraft. They have been married for 5 years now live together and have a kid. For little kids who have no plans on actually meeting these people they are stupid, but a lot of adults can bond over the internet and go meet in person when they are ready. It allows you to meet someone who you would not have been close enough to meet in the first place, and it allows you to build a relationship based on your opinions on their personality rather than looks, as long as they act like themselves over the internet. I wouldn't really be into it, but it works for a lot of people. It all depends on what your plans for it are.
 
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