Cut Itachi some slack.

[Ghostofthewind]

so not a single person was innocent? i dont think the little baby uchihas were going around killing people and planning the destruction of the leaf at that point. you cannot be blamed for the wrongs of your parents or ancestors. people that think that way is what is wrong with the world today. they did nothing wrong and are not involved.

So you'd let the women and children live? You'd risk the women, some of which were no doubt shinobi, bringing their children up to hate Konoha for killing their fathers? Before you'd know it you'd be facing the same problem as before.

During The American Civil War Sherman came to believe that "war is hell" and the most civilized thing a person can do in war is to be as ruthless as possible so the war would end sooner. This meant burning down Confederate homes, making the enemy's families homeless, destroying lives the enemy hoped to return to after the war. Sherman's goal was to demoralize the enemy and destroy their supplies.

You're asking Itachi to do the civilized thing in an uncivilized situation. Fewer people died by Itachi's actions than if the Uchiha had taken Konoha. He did the right thing. Shouldn't the Uchiha have thought about the cost they might pay if the tried to take Konoha? You're blaming Konoha for striking first.

 

[ItachiSan03]

So you'd let the women and children live? You'd risk the women, some of which were no doubt shinobi, bringing their children up to hate Konoha for killing their fathers? Before you'd know it you'd be facing the same problem as before.

During The American Civil War Sherman came to believe that "war is hell" and the most civilized thing a person can do in war is to be as ruthless as possible so the war would end sooner. This meant burning down Confederate homes, making the enemy's families homeless, destroying lives the enemy hoped to return to after the war. Sherman's goal was to demoralize the enemy and destroy their supplies.

You're asking Itachi to do the civilized thing in an uncivilized situation. Fewer people died by Itachi's actions than if the Uchiha had taken Konoha. He did the right thing. Shouldn't the Uchiha have thought about the cost they might pay if the tried to take Konoha? You're blaming Konoha for striking first.

100% true the only fault was with the three elders and the uchiha clans selfish scheme.

 

[DarkerThenBlack]

at the end of the day, Itachi was practically still a kid himself, and was ordered by/counseled by his superiors who he was under to do what he did. He didn't know any better. And he did feel guilt about it and he carried that guilt. He is guilty and he knows it. So I am not going to hate someone like that. I have a lot of respect for him for trying to correct his wrongs and always doing things with the right intentions. He has a good heart. But he was simply a boy brushed red living in black and white at the end of the day. Itachi is my favorite character in the series..so yeah xD

 

[Futur3Cha0s]

So you'd let the women and children live? You'd risk the women, some of which were no doubt shinobi, bringing their children up to hate Konoha for killing their fathers? Before you'd know it you'd be facing the same problem as before.

During The American Civil War Sherman came to believe that "war is hell" and the most civilized thing a person can do in war is to be as ruthless as possible so the war would end sooner. This meant burning down Confederate homes, making the enemy's families homeless, destroying lives the enemy hoped to return to after the war. Sherman's goal was to demoralize the enemy and destroy their supplies.

You're asking Itachi to do the civilized thing in an uncivilized situation. Fewer people died by Itachi's actions than if the Uchiha had taken Konoha. He did the right thing. Shouldn't the Uchiha have thought about the cost they might pay if the tried to take Konoha? You're blaming Konoha for striking first.

hahaha! you are quite the informed person. it is very admirable that you can call upon examples from american history. however, the situation from our point of view should not be about the trouble that could be caused later on. what itachi did was wrong no matter the situation. no doubt what itachi and Sherman did was to shorten the war and save lives, they both had brilliant military strategic plans. what they did was still wrong. would revenge be sought out? probably. but that is no excuse for killing innocent people just because you are afraid of the actions that they might take as a result of your own actions. think about it from an unbiased perspective from the point of view of the families. if they have the right to kill your clan to prevent war then you have the right to kill them in retaliation. this right to retaliate does not mean they should be condemned and killed, even though they may not retaliate. if you cant take the retaliation, as you just talked about, then dont take action and solve it some other way. dont justify actions based solely one side's point of view. both sherman and itachi did the wrong thing for the right reasons. i'm not saying i wouldnt have taken those actions, i dont really know, but i will not say that they are right. and i did not ask itachi to do the civilized thing in an uncivilized situation. i said his action was wrong. and in that statement did you not just agree with me? he did an uncivilized thing correct? the it was wrong no matter the situation. a bad time does not justify a bad action. rise above the time if at all possible

 

[Ghostofthewind]

hahaha! you are quite the informed person. it is very admirable that you can call upon examples from american history. however, the situation from our point of view should not be about the trouble that could be caused later on. what itachi did was wrong no matter the situation. no doubt what itachi and Sherman did was to shorten the war and save lives, they both had brilliant military strategic plans. what they did was still wrong. would revenge be sought out? probably. but that is no excuse for killing innocent people just because you are afraid of the actions that they might take as a result of your own actions. think about it from an unbiased perspective from the point of view of the families. if they have the right to kill your clan to prevent war then you have the right to kill them in retaliation. this right to retaliate does not mean they should be condemned and killed, even though they may not retaliate. if you cant take the retaliation, as you just talked about, then dont take action and solve it some other way. dont justify actions based solely one side's point of view. both sherman and itachi did the wrong thing for the right reasons. i'm not saying i wouldnt have taken those actions, i dont really know, but i will not say that they are right. and i did not ask itachi to do the civilized thing in an uncivilized situation. i said his action was wrong. and in that statement did you not just agree with me? he did an uncivilized thing correct? the it was wrong no matter the situation. a bad time does not justify a bad action. rise above the time if at all possible

I'm very reluctantly going to disagree with you. I cannot say with complete certainty that Itachi was morally correct, and personally I cannot condone murder. However, I believe the Uchiha were going overthrow Konoha. The 3rd Hokage tried to resolve things, and the Uchiha were going to start their own civil war, the Uchiha were wrong. Shouldn't the wicked be punished? The massacre was their punishment.

I get the feeling you believe in non-violence, or at least resolving issues without violence. I do too. I can tell you non-violence only works if the enemy doesn't become violent. Jesus, Gandi, and MLK all used non-violence to bring about great changes. Those movements used non-violence to disarm their enemies; if their movements weren't violent then how could their enemies justify being violent against them?

Another thing those three have in common is that they all ended up being killed by their enemies.

The Uchiha were bent on violence. To not respond with violence would have been a disaster. If everyone did like the French and Swiss, Hitler would rule the world. If you remember Hitler rose to power because heavy penalties were levied against Germany after WW1. He promised them prosperity and they were angry at Europe for the WW1 penalties.

Even Jesus says the day of judgement will come. On that day he will separate the wicked from the righteous and condemn the wicked to hell. Is that morally correct? Eventually Jesus who said love your enemies, bless those who curse you, and turn the other cheek believes the wicked should be punished for their actions. Does punishing them make Jesus a hypocrite?

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

I respect Itachi for what he did, but to be honest, he had better options than to kill his clan. I feel as if Kishi trolled Itachi.

 

[Anduril]

Kishi made itachi troll everyone ... cause he did say he will have some brother talk with sasuke when the fight was over.. and then he just turns a jackass and says there is nothing that holds him here anymore?? wtf..

 

[obscoral]

And you guys can't forget Tobi trolling Sasuke into doing exactly what Tobi had planned for him. Itachi couldn't have seen everything coming.

tl;dr: Cut Itachi some slack.

@ bold = in fact, itachi saw perfectly through this one too (amaterasu in sasuke`s eye) remember when tobi said "itachi never ceases to amaze me"

unfortunately, one amaterasu is not enough to stop tobi, but itachi still did what he could...

as for the rest, +rep for your work and for standing up for itachi

 

[Hashycuz]

Itachi is Jizztastic, Nuff said.

 

[ReLax -]

so not a single person was innocent? i dont think the little baby uchihas were going around killing people and planning the destruction of the leaf at that point. you cannot be blamed for the wrongs of your parents or ancestors. people that think that way is what is wrong with the world today. they did nothing wrong and are not involved. and you cannot punish people for what MIGHT happen in the future.

Other than the adults and Itachi/Sasuke we really didn't see anyone else around there age to assume there were more kids that we saw in manga and the show. I'm not going to say there wasn't anymore kids born at the time, but I mean Sasuke had no Uchiha friend or anything. You have to also realize the Uchiha clan wasn't that big anymore (population wise).