Cursed seal Sasuke V.S Leaf Jonin

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Why use his when he can copy sasuke's/ make them stronger with wind or douse it out completely with ice?
Not to mention he multilayered earth wall, his hidden mist tech(kakashi is more experienced in fighting in those conditions than sasuke) his absurd proficiency with zabuza's sword( cutting down the strongest generation of swordsman with it) etc I can go on forever. Anime kakashi is hax
Lol. I'll accept your admittance of defeat.
You leave me no choice, lmao.

-Since when can Kakashi combine his wind with Katon? I don't recall him being comparable to Kakuzu, nor do I recall his regular Katons being as strong as senjutsu enhanced Katons which were pushing back Itachi's own high level Katon jutsu.

-Oh no, multi-layered earth wall. I sure hope Sasuke doesn't do this and destroys it all [ ]. You can see that he used raiton on his sword to increase its penetrative power (and Raiton>Doton) and increased its range a large amount. Sasuke does this, or his chidori spear, and cuts through these rocks like the joke they are.

-Mist is countered via snakes that sense heat, gg Kakashi.

-Zabuza's sword is not his, he lets it go. Either way, Sasuke has shown better kenjutsu than Kakashi, and has shown the ability to channel raiton into it. Sasuke gets his sword cut in half. Despite this, Sasuke can simply equal the strength out, and then proceed to use his chidori spear, basically dual wielding like this [ ].

-Sasuke is much faster
One feat that demonstrates his staggering Shunshin is in the Deidara fight. It is shown that Deidara launches his C2 guided missile [ ]. One can clearly see the explosion radius is dwarfing the C2 bird by a long run. It should also be noted that Deidara is practically a dot on the C2, yet Sasuke, who would be a dot in that explosion, has managed to escape something many times his size [ ]. But it doesn't even stop here, after Deidara praises Sasuke for his speed, Sasuke still steps on a mine while going backwards, and once again evades, although he did it by flying [ ]. One thing to note is that both Sasuke and Deidara possess 4.5's for speed in the DB, yet Sasuke seemingly outclasses him in that department, and receives constant praise from Deidara for his speed [ ]. Sasuke then from Deidara's sight as well, which is no small feat. He once again, receives praise for his speed and Kabuto ends up taking the initiative to deal with it [ ]. Sasuke also has the capability of quickly manoeuvring himself in the air, as shown when he was easily able to leave in the midst of the explosions via his snakes [ ]. This is quite an interesting and overlooked ability, since given the correct location, it can be very effective in escaping or closing the gap. Even in early part 2, he was capable of quickly blitzing team 7, and even Naruto who is somewhat known for his good reaction speed. [ ]-->[ ] Sasuke is seemingly the size of Naruto's head, meaning the distance is quite significant, yet no one of team 7 could necessarily keep him in their line of sight. Another great example of Sasuke's Shunshin speed combined with his striking speed is when he blitzes a fully transformed CS2 user. The distance is apparently large [ ], however, what is interesting as that Sasuke was capable of slicing him numerous times, 1 slice on each leg, one slice on each arm and a large slice across the body [ ]. This is quite an amazing feat, his striking speed is potentially the best in the entire manga given this feat, and the feat of Striking Ay in v1 with his Chidori before Ay could strike him. And finally, despite being hyperbolic, Sasuke having a section just for speed is a powerful statement in itself. [/Spoiler][/Border][/Spoiler]
 

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Sasuke beats them all individually but together he would get annihilated.
 

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You leave me no choice, lmao.
Graceful defeat isn't your thing i see...


-Since when can Kakashi combine his wind with Katon?
Since he has the ability to make clones.
I don't recall him being comparable to Kakuzu,
Doesn't have to be. Sasuke's fareballs aren't aoe wise
nor do I recall his regular Katons being as strong as senjutsu enhanced Katons which were pushing back Itachi's own high level Katon jutsu.
again doesn't have to be. he makes up for it by using other elements at the same time via clones. or flat out dodge it. take your pick

-Oh no, multi-layered earth wall. I sure hope Sasuke doesn't do this and destroys it all [ ]. You can see that he used raiton on his sword to increase its penetrative power (and Raiton>Doton) and increased its range a large amount.
sasuke isnt cutting through anything in that scan....
Sasuke does this, or his chidori spear, and cuts through these rocks like the joke they are.
chidori long sword is weaker than standard chidori yet the improved raikiri couldn't break though a single earth wall? but you think sasuke can cut through multiple like butter? lol

Mist is countered via snakes that sense heat, gg Kakashi.

We covered this already... Just because the snakes can sense kakashi that doesn't mean sasuke can... and kakashi even gaiden kakashi isn't losing to a snake. Kakashi went up against invisible ninja from back in his gaiden days and was able to track them with air currents and sound

And by part 1 he's able to track via smell as well
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Becoming better than part 1 kiba( who could multiply his olfactory sensing ability by 200) in early part 2
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Not to mention going up against the tech 3 times (4 times by anime) and in each coming up victorius
So if anything kakashi is quite fine in the mist. Where as sasuke is a sitting duck and his snakes are cannonfodder

-Zabuza's sword is not his, he lets it go.
You must not know what all anime feats mean... Either way going off anime or manga its still in his possession thus he can still use it

Either way, Sasuke has shown better kenjutsu than Kakashi
by manga? maybe. by anime? No. Kakashi saw zabuza use it three times and copied his style to solo at least 3 out of the seven strongest swordsmen. And unlike suigetsu that cant handle the weight kakashi can hold it one handed perfectly fine and never complained about the weight.
and has shown the ability to channel raiton into it.
kakashi shown this feat as well
Sasuke gets his sword cut in half.
why?
Despite this, Sasuke can simply equal the strength out, and then proceed to use his chidori spear, basically dual wielding like this [ ].
Now i see why but fighting kakashi with a broken sword and a sword made of lightning isnt really a good idea. the lightning running on the executioner's blade cancels out the longsword/sharp spear and half a sword has vastly inferior range than that of the executioner's blade.

-Sasuke is much faster
Opinion but since you brought an explanation ill cut through it as well.

One feat that demonstrates his staggering Shunshin is in the Deidara fight. It is shown that Deidara launches his C2 guided missile
Sasuke started moving before it even landed let alone explode.
One can clearly see the explosion radius is dwarfing the C2 bird by a long run. It should also be noted that Deidara is practically a dot on the C2, yet Sasuke, who would be a dot in that explosion, has managed to escape something many times his size
Had he been out of the area before it exploded you would have been on to something but since he's shown leaving the dust clouds after it exploded....its you trying to make something out of nothing. I could say the same about kakashi dodging asura path's missiles while still being in the vicinity:
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But it doesn't even stop here, after Deidara praises Sasuke for his speed, Sasuke still steps on a mine while going backwards, and once again evades, although he did it by flying [3].
Flying where? he was still in the pit where the mine exploded.

One thing to note is that both Sasuke and Deidara possess 4.5's for speed in the DB, yet Sasuke seemingly outclasses him in that department, and receives constant praise from Deidara for his speed
Deidara is only fast while on his bird. Heck even sai's drawings blitzed his ass
Sasuke then disappears from Deidara's sight as well, which is no small feat.
kinda is. Team guy sneaked up on him, sai's drawings sneaked up on him.
He once again, receives praise for his speed and Kabuto ends up taking the initiative to deal with it [4].
you must mean deidara...

Sasuke also has the capability of quickly manoeuvring himself in the air, as shown when he was easily able to leave in the midst of the explosions via his snakes [5]. This is quite an interesting and overlooked ability, since given the correct location, it can be very effective in escaping or closing the gap.
its a pretty good ability ill give you that. However the snakes are tracked/dodged via sharingan or cut through. Standard kunai should get the job done but if necessary raikiri

Even in early part 2, he was capable of quickly blitzing team 7, and even Naruto who is somewhat known for his good reaction speed.
A)naruto before sm was never known for reaction speed.
B) only sakura, sai and naruto were flat out shocked by his speed. Tenzo who is slower than kakashi and lacking a sharingan saw his movement.
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[x]-->[y] Sasuke is seemingly the size of Naruto's head, meaning the distance is quite significant, yet no one of team 7 could necessarily keep him in their line of sight.

Don't try adding distance via perspective. I can drop distance via the same method and neither of us would be right
Like so:
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From that angle it looks no more than 8m. And that's being generous.

From this angle(which is better than both the one you posted and the one before this since its not from behind either of their heads(which messes up depth perception since the object being focused on is also the vanishing point) it looks even less.
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Tenzo kept line of sight. the scan is already there.

Another great example of Sasuke's Shunshin speed combined with his striking speed is when he blitzes a fully transformed CS2 user. The distance is apparently large [6], however, what is interesting as that Sasuke was capable of slicing him numerous times, 1 slice on each leg, one slice on each arm and a large slice across the body [7]. This is quite an amazing feat, his striking speed is potentially the best in the entire manga given this feat,

Playing up the perspective again, ill let it slide since the multiple strikes is pretty cool. However as for what i bolded. You're overwanking. Guy, neji(any 64 palms user for that matter), lee, tobirama have all shown better.(lee since part 1 btw)

and the feat of Striking Ay in v1 with his Chidori before Ay could strike him. And finally, despite being hyperbolic, Sasuke having a section just for speed is a powerful statement in itself.
Bold: no sasuke in fact attacked second. Ducking the elbow then attacking.


Speed: While hebi sasuke is fast he is by no means blitzing war arc kakashi. Not when kakashi has sharingan precog, and the same speed stat via databook. Matter of fact the only times in the manga when kakashi was is caught off guard by someone's speed was bm naruto(which hebi sasuke doesn't even hold a candle to) and 8th gate guy. Heck even in part 1 his sharingan was tracking 5th gate lee without problem and could even deduce when gates were being opened, mid lotous. so speed isn't the factor in which sasuke would win, and if need be he has the first gate to fall back on.

Strength: Sasuke is lacking in the strength department. To the best of my knowledge he hasn't shown(if anything) much that constitutes as strength. Kakashi on the other hand was able to out muscle zabuza who has a five in that category:
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and wield the executioner's blade with one hand and blitzing the previous samehada user.
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Something suigetsu despite being proficient in swords (the seven mist swords to be specific) never accomplished. Suigetsu even complained about the weight.

Intel: His intelligence was always a 5 via databook and to this day naruto still considers him a better strategist than sasuke(though ill admit that might be out of personal bias) even so he's shown in all of his serious fights(yes i literally mean all and i welcome you to prove me wrong(bar gaiden days arrogance got the best of him.) he's shown or come up with a strategy to get the upper hand on his opponent. Not only that he has knowledge on sasuke's fire tech's, taught him his standard lightning tech and has knowledge on his cursemark. Where as sasuke has only seen 5 of his id say 30 shown techniques.

Taijutsu and Weaponry: Both are reputable in this area since their genin days both beating(well at least kakashi did) guy and lee respectively. Kakashi being skilled enough with the white chakra sabre to be mistaken for his father holding off zabuza and hidan respectively with only a kunai. Then wielding the executioners blade better than suigetsu.Both have the ability to run electricity through their weapons so it cancels each other out like it did vs killer b.
kakashi does however have a higher taijutsu stat han sasuke and it showed itself when ms sasuke got styled on. Or indirectly when kakashi's clone went head to head with itachi's and stalemated where as a holding back itachi still styled on sasuke.

Ninjutsu and seal speed: I really shouldn't have to go into detail as to how kakashi stomps in this section..Sasuke may pack extra fire power via the curse mark but kakashi has the element advantage. Even itachi fails to see kakashi perform jutsu where as sasuke on the other hand doesn't see itachi use his techs unless he blatantly telegraphs it. Not to mention kakashi's obnoxious clone feints that tricks everyone and anyone since he does it so fast.

Genjutsu: Both have sharingan. This type of battle wouldn't go anywhere. Especially since kakashi stalemated against obito who had no problem controlling perfect jins for years.

Stamina:War ark kakashi can fight straight for 2 days. Cant say the same for sasuke. He gets exhausted after 30 mins. using the curse mark only speeds it up.


All in all kakashi's only problem would be his flight. Mind you. My argument is based off of manga kakashi with no kamui.
Not once did i mention his mongekyou, anime feats, or his teammates.
 
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