Curse mark users>genjutsu users

[Curse Mark]

juugo's a shitty example like I already said and you should give up on trying to use him.

Naturally absorbing energy =/= having chakra forced into your system.

 

[Owarij]

juugo's a shitty example like I already said and you should give up on trying to use him.

Naturally absorbing energy =/= having chakra forced into your system.

Sage mode factor isn't forced into their system any differently than juugo sucking in the energy..

the cursed seal users chakra are slowly drained and replaced with senjutsu chakra...

where is the forceful nature of it? where is the chakra disruption?

 

[zamki]

lol at OP..Dont you remember Juugo getting caught in Cee's genjutsu at Kage summit arc?

 

[Curse Mark]

Sage mode factor isn't forced into their system any differently than juugo sucking in the energy..

the cursed seal users chakra are slowly drained and replaced with senjutsu chakra...

where is the forceful nature of it? where is the chakra disruption?

The disruption takes place when chakra is put into their system that isn't theirs i fail to see why you can't understand this

lol at OP..Dont you remember Juugo getting caught in Cee's genjutsu at Kage summit arc?

lol at you for not reading the thread

 

[Owarij]

The disruption takes place when chakra is put into their system that isn't theirs

are you joking? external chakra entering your body isn't disruption...... Other wise Kabuto would have no NEED to close his eyes,since EXTERNAL senjutsu chakra is always entering and being formed

 

[Curse Mark]

are you joking? external chakra entering your body isn't disruption...... Other wise Kabuto would have no NEED to close his eyes,since EXTERNAL senjutsu chakra is always entering and being formed

No one here is talking about senjutsu. Stop talking about senjutsu. We're talking about a person's chakra entering another person
AKA DISRUPTION

 

[blazekev90]

No one here is talking about senjutsu. Stop talking about senjutsu. We're talking about a person's chakra entering another person
AKA DISRUPTION

Owaji is just talking, don't waste your time. He clearly saw Itachi's name and felt the need to defend even if he makes no sense. I tell you these Itachi fanboys =D

 

[Neonian]

Curse Mark Imo.

 

[Owarij]

No one here is talking about senjutsu. Stop talking about senjutsu. We're talking about a person's chakra entering another person
AKA DISRUPTION

You do realize nature energy is external right??

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THIS ,is placing someone's chakra into another.. IT IS NOT disruption.. otherwise Darui would not be able to channel and utilize chakra properly..

Disruption, is using external chakra to DISRUPT the persons chakra flow and chakra network.. THAT is what breaks the genjutsu..

Placing external chakra into someone's body does not equate to disruption


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is Chakra disruption.. pain uses his chakra disruption stakes and overpowers you with his chakra.. THIS is what is needed to break the genjutsu

 

[blazekev90]

You do realize nature energy is external right??

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THIS ,is placing someone's chakra into another.. IT IS NOT disruption.. otherwise Darui would not be able to channel and utilize chakra properly..

Disruption, is using external chakra to DISRUPT the persons chakra flow and chakra network.. THAT is what breaks the genjutsu..

Placing external chakra into someone's body does not equate to disruption


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is Chakra disruption.. pain uses his chakra disruption stakes and overpowers you with his chakra.. THIS is what is needed to break the genjutsu

yet he was caught in genjutus himself, just stop Owaji.

 

[Owarij]

yet he was caught in genjutus himself, just stop Owaji.

What? make sense if you're debating... please...

Are you denying the mechanics of the chakra stakes? does nagato not send his chakra to bodies and control them through them?

Does his chakra not disrupt the chakra flow of people who get stabbed with it?

 

[blazekev90]

What? make sense if you're debating... please...

Are you denying the mechanics of the chakra stakes? does nagato not send his chakra to bodies and control them through them?

Does his chakra not disrupt the chakra flow of people who get stabbed with it?

no one is debating with you Owaji, you are obviously debating with yourself. You're trying to convince us while trying to convince yourself, we're laughing at the matter actually.

You just around so much of what you try to prove in every argument, which to some looks improve but it's all you babbling.

Go back to being a Sasori fanboy, at least that's more original and followed up with better arguments.

 

[Owarij]

Gonna explain in basic laymen terms.. seems you're having trouble understanding..

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When you disrupt someone's chakra flow, you mess it up completely, and it stops.. i

disrupting = stopping..


If you cannot do it youself.. Someone must stop your chakra flow for you..

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Please tell me you understand thus far?



Nagato uses his stakes, over powers your chakra flow, and takes control of your body.... think of it like he's controlling you similar to how you control someone in genjutsu, with different mechanics

You see here he even SAYS he can control naruto, once the stake was in.. this is also why when naruto was impaled.. he could do nothing, untill kyuubi's chakra overpowered it..

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Here , once agani, you see that getting external chakra from someone is NOT the same as stopping or disrupting your chakra ful.. it can't possibly be, because darui is still under full control of his utilities.. and is channeling chakra normally

no one is debating with you Owaji, you are obviously debating with yourself. You're trying to convince us while trying to convince yourself, we're laughing at the matter actually.

You just around so much of what you try to prove in every argument, which to some looks improve but it's all you babbling.

Go back to being a Sasori fanboy, at least that's more original and followed up with better arguments.

Lol its funny that you have no arguments what so ever, not even a remote grasp on the debate at hand, so you resort to ad hominems ... grow up kid

 

[blazekev90]

Gonna explain in basic laymen terms.. seems you're having trouble understanding..

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When you disrupt someone's chakra flow, you mess it up completely, and it stops.. i

disrupting = stopping..


If you cannot do it youself.. Someone must stop your chakra flow for you..

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Please tell me you understand thus far?



Nagato uses his stakes, over powers your chakra flow, and takes control of your body.... think of it like he's controlling you similar to how you control someone in genjutsu, with different mechanics

You see here he even SAYS he can control naruto, once the stake was in.. this is also why when naruto was impaled.. he could do nothing, untill kyuubi's chakra overpowered it..

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Here , once agani, you see that getting external chakra from someone is NOT the same as stopping or disrupting your chakra ful.. it can't possibly be, because darui is still under full control of his utilities.. and is channeling chakra normally





Lol its funny that you have no arguments what so ever, not even a remote grasp on the debate at hand, so you resort to ad hominems ... grow up kid

so how do you feel? Are you convinced? because no one else is at this point. Reposting what is in the thread multiple times haha. OK, we see Owaji, you think that having two separate entities in one person is unable to disrupt chakra.

cool story bro =D

 

[Owarij]

^ sigh, idiot, i'll await dkdankong's rebuttal..

Common says seems to leave you sometimes...


jiraya clearly states that dirupting = stopping chakra flow...

we have scans of sakura giving darui chakra, and not stopping or disrupting his flow... and more

i'll wait

 

[blazekev90]

^ sigh, idiot, i'll await dkdankong's rebuttal..

Common says seems to leave you sometimes...


jiraya clearly states that dirupting = stopping chakra flow...

we have scans of sakura giving darui chakra, and not stopping or disrupting his flow... and more

i'll wait

obviously you need to look up CM again. It doesn't only supply chakra, but takes absorbs the chakra of it's host. Anko commented on how deadly CM could be due to this.

dkdankong probably has no time to take you serious any longer, i just do this for pure entertainment and you're making this rather easy. xd

please do tell me how tailed beast go about doing this with their host

 

[Owarij]

lol, sigh, now draining someone's chakra = stopping it.. please, go back to an oro thread

 

[Curse Mark]

If their chakra is drained and replaced by orochimaru, I'm just a little confused as to how that doesn't disrupt their chakra.

Clearly their chakra does indeed become overwhelmed.
Why?
The cursemark drains their chakra to the point where it can be easily overwhelmed by the chakra being pumped into them.

Proof?

As was already said not only in this thread but also Kakashi told Sasuke in the chuunin exams that if he used his chakra, his curse mark would instantly overwhelm him. As soon as he used chakra, the seal would begin sucking up or believe it or not sealing his chakra into the SEAL. And sasuke, being unable to control it would lose all his chakra and die.

 

[blazekev90]

If their chakra is drained and replaced by orochimaru, I'm just a little confused as to how that doesn't disrupt their chakra.

Clearly their chakra does indeed become overwhelmed.
Why?
The cursemark drains their chakra to the point where it can be easily overwhelmed by the chakra being pumped into them.

Proof?

As was already said not only in this thread but also Kakashi told Sasuke in the chuunin exams that if he used his chakra, his curse mark would instantly overwhelm him. As soon as he used chakra, the seal would begin sucking up or believe it or not sealing his chakra into the SEAL. And sasuke, being unable to control it would lose all his chakra and die.

Itachi gave Owaji some good good, it's not point I'm telling you. But just wait for his response, in which he runs around the answer and presents something not even relevant to your post.

 

[Owarij]

If their chakra is drained and replaced by orochimaru, I'm just a little confused as to how that doesn't disrupt their chakra.

Clearly their chakra does indeed become overwhelmed.
Why?
The cursemark drains their chakra to the point where it can be easily overwhelmed by the chakra being pumped into them.

Proof?

As was already said not only in this thread but also Kakashi told Sasuke in the chuunin exams that if he used his chakra, his curse mark would instantly overwhelm him. As soon as he used chakra, the seal would begin sucking up or believe it or not sealing his chakra into the SEAL. And sasuke, being unable to control it would lose all his chakra and die.

because disrupting chakra, as stated by Jiraya,is the act of completely stopping and messing up the entire flow of your chakra network...

Having an external force drain your chakra, isn't disruption..if your chakra flow is temporarily stopped.. jutsu use is impossible.. the ninja can't control you, because they lost touch with any chakra in your head...

sucking or adding chakra to someone else, doesn't mess with the chakra flow.. think of it like drawing or adding blood to your veins.. the flow of blood is still working... Chakra was just giving darui chakra to increase his jutsu with....NOTHING was disrupted... his chakra flow was still the same..

Same with kabuto and sm users..the nature energy does not affect their chakra flow...

you can die from CS because it can drain your chakra to 0 , and at that point you die.. , once again, that doesn't mean your chakra flow has been disrupted or is being disrupted..

If kisame drained some of your chakra, it doesn't = to disruption ... the cursed seal is just a matter of drain and replace

lol @ this blaze guy, why are you still here? at least dkdangkong has a brain to think logically ...you should learn from him