Current Sasuke

[Apêx1]

No, he's still using the Bijuu's power, how he obtained and how long he had it is irrelevant. The hypocrisy is real.

Never claimed he wasn't, point?

yet Sasuke had to do all of that in order for him to

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Since when does Naruto taking him seriously equate to Naruto being as strong or stronger?

 

[Selan]

Kakashi still solos. Kamui GG faster than Kaguya's S/T portal that already blitzed Sasuke. Kamui Raikiri with speed and hax that blitzed Kaguya while a weaker Kaguya could dodge Sasuke's Rinnegan S/T + Chidori with ease. All of Sasuke's destructive power is useless with Kamui teleporting and phasing. Kakashi is also a lot smarter.

Also, I don't think Kurama said that Sasuke was as strong as Hagoromo. It wouldn't make sense, probably it was meaning that Sasuke was doing the same thing that Hagoromo did, but at the opposite, with the Bijuu's chakra. And also serious Naruto > Sasuke. Kaguya also > Sasuke.

 

[Apêx1]

Kakashi still solos. Kamui GG faster than Kaguya's S/T portal that already blitzed Sasuke. Kamui Raikiri with speed and hax that blitzed Kaguya while a weaker Kaguya could dodge Sasuke's Rinnegan S/T + Chidori with ease. All of Sasuke's destructive power is useless with Kamui teleporting and phasing. Kakashi is also a lot smarter.

Also, I don't think Kurama said that Sasuke was as strong as Hagoromo. It wouldn't make sense, probably it was meaning that Sasuke was doing the same thing that Hagoromo did, but at the opposite, with the Bijuu's chakra. And also serious Naruto > Sasuke. Kaguya also > Sasuke.

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[Rιver]

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Wow, one reply destroyed two paragraphs.

 

[Rike Senju]

Lol pretty sad that Sasuke had to use full bijuu chakra to get naruto to start fighting seriously. Imagine if naruto had all bijuu in him, he would have destroyed sasuke Lol inb4 being called a naruto fan, he's alright in my book but not my favorite.

 

[Apêx1]

Lol pretty sad that Sasuke had to use full bijuu chakra to get naruto to start fighting seriously. Imagine if naruto had all bijuu in him, he would have destroyed sasuke Lol inb4 being called a naruto fan, he's alright in my book but not my favorite.

But then again this is all hypothetical. Sasuke getting chakra puts him above current Naruto by feats, so Sasuke getting what Naruto already had implies he is superior skill wise, if anything, since both share identical external help.

 

[Rizengan01]

Sasuke reached the level of Hagoromo, which he used to assimilate the Bijuu's chakra to his PS. Naruto absorbed the NE from the surface of the world, so now he may or may not be able to match Sasuke's power (obviously he will). Everyone else is irrelevant.

 

[UCE]

Not sure about sasuke winning. I hope he does but a draw sounds alot better. But still sexsuke -> nardo. Doe.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke reached the level of Hagoromo, which he used to assimilate the Bijuu's chakra to his PS. Naruto absorbed the NE from the surface of the world, so now he may or may not be able to match Sasuke's power (obviously he will). Everyone else is irrelevant.

I agree. Either way, Hamura's staff is only one sided possibly implying it is senjutsu, whereas Hagromo's is two sided and evidently represents Yin and Yang. So they could still be equals in that regard, but I am strictly speaking of feats and this current point in time, which means Sasuke shits.

Not sure about sasuke winning. I hope he does but a draw sounds alot better. But still sexsuke -> nardo. Doe.

Indeed so, indeed so.

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[Demonic.]

Yata still tanks all of sasukes attacks
Totsuka still seals sasukes susanoo
Meaning itachi still solos neg diff

Words of wisdom right here guys

 

[Selan]

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And so what? That was Kakashi's peak power level, the fact that he hasn't it anymore doesn't mean he had. If Sasuke was to lose Rinnegan and Rikudo chakra, would you forget about the power he showed with them?

 

[Apêx1]

And so what? That was Kakashi's peak power level, the fact that he hasn't it anymore doesn't mean he had. If Sasuke was to lose Rinnegan and Rikudo chakra, would you forget about the power he showed with them?

1. Can Kakashi Kamui someone's chakra network even though he sees it behind Naruto's flesh? No. Can Kakashi Kamui Sasuke even though he sees him behind Susano? Nope.

2. Peak power level or not, thread title is "current" Sasuke, so taking Kakashi from a different time period is like saying Konohmaru beats Sasuke because at one point in time, Sasuke was weaker. Again, moot point, nor was it relevant as Kakashi is weaker since he can't choose what he focuses on in a y/z/x axis similar to why he can't focus on thin air. It's impossible, end of story.

3. No, but if someone else made this thread and it says "current", I wouldn't mention past characters considering how he wouldn't be "unstoppable" had Juubi Jin Hagromo been alive. Not that it matters, since Kakashi gets curb-stomped.

 

[Rike Senju]

But then again this is all hypothetical. Sasuke getting chakra puts him above current Naruto by feats, so Sasuke getting what Naruto already had implies he is superior skill wise, if anything, since both share identical external help.

Naruto had fractions of the bijuu, on the other side sasuke is using full bijuu chakra almost. Yet naruto will still stalemate, if not beat sasuke. It's VOTE all over again Lol

 

[Turson]

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If a blade was to be superior to his tail, then that is advantage over power.

Serious. Do you know what that that word means? Sasuke barely cut through one of Narutos tails, which regenerated in no time either way.

 

[Apêx1]

Serious. Do you know what that that word means? Sasuke barely cut through one of Narutos tails, which regenerated in no time either way.

Matters not, a superior feat is right there, other superior feats happened throughout the chapter that was released today. Naruto has 0 feats to put him above any form of current Sasuke, only him saying he's been "holding back", which holds no merit in scaling his power up to Naruto. Not to mention, he only displayed 9 tails after Kurama gave him the Senjutsu, so no time is a massive exaggeration since you can never see more than 8 tails in the chapter prior to its end.

 

[Rizengan01]

PS swords aren't amazingly durable, either. Madara causally popped them off (then quickly respawned more) against Hashirama's Buddha.

 

[V h o]

Madara's PS still "breaks all of creation" U_U

 

[Turson]

Matters not, a superior feat is right there, other superior feats happened throughout the chapter that was released today. Naruto has 0 feats to put him above any form of current Sasuke, only him saying he's been "holding back", which holds no merit in scaling his power up to Naruto. Not to mention, he only displayed 9 tails after Kurama gave him the Senjutsu, so no time is a massive exaggeration since you can never see more than 8 tails in the chapter prior to its end.

How much time passed since the tail was cut? Two minutes? Considering how much effort Sasuke had to put into cutting one tail, its safe to assume that cutting through two or more tails would be impossible for him.

 

[LadyDemon]

Sasuke wins because hes hot lmao.

J/k

 

[Rizengan01]

Madara's PS still "breaks all of creation" U_U

It failed that many a time.

How much time passed since the tail was cut? Two minutes? Considering how much effort Sasuke had to put into cutting one tail, its safe to assume that cutting through two or more tails would be impossible for him.

You can apply this however you want, but the first clash, Naruto blocked with two tails (neither the tails nor the sword disappeared). The second time, both the single tail and the sword disappeared.