Current Sasuke vs KCM Naruto

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Where's Sasuke's Kirin? Sasuke fanboys always want to use Kirin as the end all be all, but its completely out of charcter for Sasuke to use it.

Sasuke uses Kirin as a last resort as seen in his battle with Itachi. Obito still didn't push him enough for him to use Kirin.
 

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Sasuke uses Kirin as a last resort as seen in his battle with Itachi. Obito still didn't push him enough for him to use Kirin.

Obito put him on deaths door twice all the while Sasuke knows that he's fighting the second strongest thing in the NV and you think he hasn't pushed him enough to use his strongest attack thus far? (Other than PS)
 

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Where's Sasuke's Kirin? Sasuke fanboys always want to use Kirin as the end all be all, but its completely out of charcter for Sasuke to use it.
Sasuke largely insists on the arsenal of his EMS, what is already the source of a lot of powerful techniques, with succeed. If needed, he can use Kirin any time by heat up the atmosphere with Enton. In fact, Naruto didn't rely on his Shunshin in fights most time. He rather let himself being hit several times.

Plus, KCM Naruto has no technique to made a scratch on Susanoo's former stages. A Chou Oodama Rasengan didn't even leave a scratch on Susanoo's ribcage; quantity will change nothing. If Naruto creates 10 clones with a Rasengan in their hand, Susanoo either repels them with ease or wipe them out with a swing of his Enton blade or Magatamas.

I don't know why some of you see KCM winning. It's not a wank that Sasuke is the superior, it's objectively the truth.

@Midday, Sasuke already proved how he can move within his Susanoo. It is enough to levitate a few centimeters above the ground inside of Susanoo, to be fully protected. Madara already demonstrated that in his fight with the Kage, too, when using the Susanoo without legs.

As for the rest. I have enough proves, several scenarios given where your Shunshin misses. He never used his Shunshin with succeed in a battle, not without BM. The Chakra cloak won't help the clones when they are covered entirely in the flames.
 
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Obito put him on deaths door twice all the while Sasuke knows that he's fighting the second strongest thing in the NV and you think he hasn't pushed him enough to use his strongest attack thus far? (Other than PS)

Sasuke is cocky. As you can see, he still has more tricks up his sleeve so that's why he still won't use Kirin.
 

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It's debatable right now what Sasuke can do on his own but the previous ems Sasuke's susanoo without legs can be bypassed with the use of chakra arms and grab him from underneath. It's also up for debate whether or not susanoo can tank odama frs cutting power and explosion considering how poorly it did against Danzo's basic wind techniques.

You think Amaterasu or enton magatama's will do anything to Naruto? They're easily evaded and the chakra cloak can protect him from the flames whilst he sheds it off.

As for clones being slower, that's completely baseless and you'd need to prove that before you start making claims like that. Just because Naruto has not blitzed an opponent doesn't mean it's not possible, if his speed is above their reaction time and they can't physically keep up they can be blitzed. It's just like saying because Amaterasu hasn't killed anyone so it can't kill anyone.
At the end of chapter 650, Sasuke is forming a Perfect Susanoo without the chakra cloak. He doesn't need the cloak to form a legged Susanoo, full stop.
 

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Sasuke largely insists on the arsenal of his EMS, what is already the source of a lot of powerful techniques, with succeed. If needed, he can use Kirin any time by heat up the atmosphere with Enton. In fact, Naruto didn't rely on his Shunshin in fights most time. He rather let himself being hit several times.

Plus, KCM Naruto has no technique to made a scratch on Susanoo's former stages. A Chou Oodama Rasengan didn't even leave a scratch on Susanoo's ribcage; quantity will change nothing. If Naruto creates 10 clones with a Rasengan in their hand, Susanoo either repels them with ease or wipe them out with a swing of his Enton blade or Magatamas.

I don't know why some of you see KCM winning. It's not a wank that Sasuke is the superior, it's objectively the truth.

Contradicting at its finest.

If you want to believe that Sasuke will prep Kirin. Then I'll believe that Naruto blitzes him repeatedly.


Sasuke is cocky. As you can see, he still has more tricks up his sleeve so that's why he still won't use Kirin.

You pretty much just admitted that your wrong. If Sasuke won't use Kirin against the Juubi, then he won't against Naruto.
 

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At the end of chapter 650, Sasuke is forming a Perfect Susanoo without the chakra cloak. He doesn't need the cloak to form a legged Susanoo, full stop.

At the end of 650 he's also in Naruto's bm, just because there's no cloak does not mean he's not under the kyuubi chakra's influence like Kakashi when he was warping the 8 tails.
 

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At the end of 650 he's also in Naruto's bm, just because there's no cloak does not mean he's not under the kyuubi chakra's influence like Kakashi when he was warping the 8 tails.
Some folk will never stop fighting the good fight :|
 

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Contradicting at its finest.

If you want to believe that Sasuke will prep Kirin. Then I'll believe that Naruto blitzes him repeatedly.
These are the words of a guy who doesn't have any meaningful argument left. Sasuke already used Kirin with succeed against his opponent and he can do it again; with Enton by far easier, because he is also protected by Susanoo while doing this. In fact, a scenario where Naruto blitzes his opponent with a few Bunshins is nothing but fanfiction. I do not deny Naruto can use fast Shunshin while in KCM, but he didn't have shown enough prowess to use it freely at will when the situation needs it. Why is he blitzing Sasuke or avoiding Enton, when he didn't avoid several attacks of Obito's Jinchuriki and fought with Itachi with equal speed? That is my point. Not, that Naruto can't use Shunshin, but that he doesn't have enough prowess and skills. When Sasuke needed Kirin, he simply prepared it.
 

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Some folk will never stop fighting the good fight :|

Though what he said is pretty much fact :|

These are the words of a guy who doesn't have any meaningful argument left. Sasuke already used Kirin with succeed against his opponent and he can do it again; with Enton by far easier, because he is also protected by Susanoo while doing this. In fact, a scenario where Naruto blitzes his opponent with a few Bunshins is nothing but fanfiction. I do not deny Naruto can use fast Shunshin while in KCM, but he didn't have shown enough prowess to use it freely at will when the situation needs it. Why is he blitzing Sasuke or avoiding Enton, when he didn't avoid several attacks of Obito's Jinchuriki and fought with Itachi with equal speed? That is my point. Not, that Naruto can't use Shunshin, but that he doesn't have enough prowess and skills.

For the love of god. Please learn to use *Success. You've done this multiple times.

Though again, your still tyring to set a double standard and say that Sasuke will do something out of character while Naruto wont. The absence of my argument is due to the fact that your not providing anything to factually counter. Just arguments that collapse on their own fallacy.
 
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How there can be so much discussion in vs thread with clear winner is beyond me...
 

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Depends if Naruto's chakra has a link with Sasuke's recent feats or not, how long he can maintain his new Susanoo or not. Since the moment he received Naruto's chakra, it still can be discussed he can't do it on his own unfortunately. I do believe he can and maintain it for long however, so i'd give him the win
 

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Are people really trying to say that Sasuke needed Naruto to form Perfect Susanoo? :|
 

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Depends if Naruto's chakra has a link with Sasuke's recent feats or not, how long he can maintain his new Susanoo or not. Since the moment he received Naruto's chakra, it still can be discussed he can't do it on his own unfortunately. I do believe he can and maintain it for long however, so i'd give him the win
Naruto's chakra dosen't evolve your jutsu it only increases it's size...
 

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Naruto's chakra dosen't evolve your jutsu it only increases it's size...

Growing Legs isn't evolving the Susano'O. Sasuke was just able to stabilize more chakra near the bottom of Susano'O.
 

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, clones can cover for him
 

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Current Sasuke = BSM Naruto. Why? Because Kishimoto did obviously portray that in the last chapter. They fight as equals now and even the likes of Tobirama are comparing both Naruto and Sasuke to Hashirama and Sasuke, saying that latter is on the way of surpassing Madara.

@End of Days, lol, Sasuke shots an Amaterasu arrow at this FRS, making it a huge Amaterasu flame he can immediately control with Enton.
 

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Do people still think that FRS can destroy Sasuke's Susano'o? Lol
 
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