Current Sasuke vs Juubito and DMS Kakashi

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Kamui gg no re.
Sasuke's previous susanoo blocked light so he couldn't get sniped, but this susanoo has lightning making sasuke's position quite clear.
 

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I meant noticed distortion of space. @Bold: No. Read .

He needs to react mentally to teleport in the 1st place. But given his short-range of it, it won't make it in time.

That is if Sasuke can react to him mentally.

I don't need to, because I've done my homework.

''A relativistic speed is a speed which is a significant proportion of the speed of light. Therefore scientific analysis must take the consequences of special relativity into account. A relativistic particle is a subatomic particle moving at relativistic speed.''

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Also, I don't see how the link you posted is relevant. Has nothing to do with relativistic speed, nor explains it. It only explains basic things about time dilation, time, space and special relativity's basics.

How won't Sasuke see him if Madara could?
 

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Gai gives them victory. His speed can distort space and time. All he needs to do is blitz through Susanoo, which gets distorted and blitzes through Sasuke, whose reaction time is inferior to Madara's. Even if he uses his teleportation, it won't make it in time.

Gai couldn't speed blitz Madara, but Sasuke did. Gai is irrelevant. Sasuke stomps.

You have a point. Though Rinnegan will grant Sasuke vision to see the build pressure in Kakashi's eyes.

That's a basic sharingan ability.

Kamui gg no re.
Sasuke's previous susanoo blocked light so he couldn't get sniped, but this susanoo has lightning making sasuke's position quite clear.

Susano'O isn't the lightning.
 

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Juubito gets cut in half.
Solo clap + amaterasu kills kakashi
Solo glance + PS slash kills gai.
 

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Sasuke's previous susanoo blocked light so he couldn't get sniped, but this susanoo has lightning making sasuke's position quite clear.

what are you talking about? kakashi can just snipe ps’s neck
 

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Kakashi still solos. Kamui GG faster than Kaguya's S/T portal that already blitzed Sasuke. Kamui Raikiri with speed and hax that blitzed Kaguya while a weaker Kaguya could dodge Sasuke's Rinnegan S/T + Chidori with ease. All of Sasuke's destructive power is useless with Kamui teleporting and phasing. Kakashi is also a lot smarter.

While Sasuke murdes Juubito, Kakashi warps him.
 

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Sasuke pratically blitzed RSM Naruto with a big ass chakra avatar, and the latter, with four of himself in the field, didn't move an inch and couldn't even touch Sasuke until one of the avatars got *****slapped and touched the ground. His Susanoo hybrid was physically stronger than each of the avatars (and could pressure three of them in CQC without a single effort), and these avatars use the same chakra arms that briefly stalemated with Kaguya's. Kaguya obliterated Sasuke's PS with 4 arms. Three chidori senbons overpowered three Bijuudamas from Naruto and one arrow is supposedly on the level of a CFRS and a BDRS.

Juubito dies first with either the Rinnegan Shift or is cut like butter by the Susanoo. Kakashi follows soon after.
 

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Kakashi still solos. Kamui GG faster than Kaguya's S/T portal that already blitzed Sasuke. Kamui Raikiri with speed and hax that blitzed Kaguya while a weaker Kaguya could dodge Sasuke's Rinnegan S/T + Chidori with ease. All of Sasuke's destructive power is useless with Kamui teleporting and phasing. Kakashi is also a lot smarter.

While Sasuke murdes Juubito, Kakashi warps him.

Sasuke owns Kakashi. First off, Sasuke was holding back against Kakashi. Secondly, Kamui can't even surface without making Kakashi vulnerable. Sasuke is on Hagoromo's level now. He casually stomps Kakashi.

Sasuke pratically blitzed RSM Naruto with a big ass chakra avatar, and the latter, with four of himself in the field, didn't move an inch and couldn't even touch Sasuke until one of the avatars got *****slapped and touched the ground. His Susanoo hybrid was physically stronger than each of the avatars (and could pressure three of them in CQC without a single effort), and these avatars use the same chakra arms that briefly stalemated with Kaguya's. Kaguya obliterated Sasuke's PS with 4 arms. Three chidori senbons overpowered three Bijuudamas from Naruto and one arrow is supposedly on the level of a CFRS and a BDRS.

Not to mention that the back literally radiates lightning, and that Sasuke is now actually on the level of Hagoromo (he was before he assimilated the Bijuu).

Juubito dies first with either the Rinnegan Shift or is cut like butter by the Susanoo. Kakashi follows soon after.

Yes. CT solos Kakashi. Kamui helps him escape just as much as Kaguya's own S/T jutsu. That is to say, not at all.
 

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Sasuke pratically blitzed RSM Naruto with a big ass chakra avatar, and the latter, with four of himself in the field, didn't move an inch and couldn't even touch Sasuke until one of the avatars got *****slapped and touched the ground. His Susanoo hybrid was physically stronger than each of the avatars (and could pressure three of them in CQC without a single effort), and these avatars use the same chakra arms that briefly stalemated with Kaguya's. Kaguya obliterated Sasuke's PS with 4 arms. Three chidori senbons overpowered three Bijuudamas from Naruto and one arrow is supposedly on the level of a CFRS and a BDRS.

Juubito dies first with either the Rinnegan Shift or is cut like butter by the Susanoo. Kakashi follows soon after.
Considering it has been proven Naruto is holding back, it shouldn't be worth discussing. Though i agree ultimately Sasuke will win
 

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Considering it has been proven Naruto is holding back, it shouldn't be worth discussing. Though i agree ultimately Sasuke will win

Yeah, but Naruto actually reacted to the S/T before. It seemed to me that he didn't even notice Susanoo moving until it was on his clone's ass ready to fight, and that's a good feat. Either that or he let Sasuke hit the clone on purpose to let the latter gather natural energy.
 

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Sasuke owns Kakashi. First off, Sasuke was holding back against Kakashi. Secondly, Kamui can't even surface without making Kakashi vulnerable. Sasuke is on Hagoromo's level now. He casually stomps Kakashi.



Not to mention that the back literally radiates lightning, and that Sasuke is now actually on the level of Hagoromo (he was before he assimilated the Bijuu).



Yes. CT solos Kakashi. Kamui helps him escape just as much as Kaguya's own S/T jutsu. That is to say, not at all.

Holding back against Kaguya, I suppose. And that doesn't change the fact that while you aren't using your full power to attack, you probably won't like to be closed forever in an unescapable dimension, or to be casually wtfpowned more than once. Yeah, he stomps like Kaguya did. Oh wait, Kaguya > Hagoromo and she didn't stomp Kakashi at all, on the opposite she got countered, blitzed, his S/T outperformed...

Sasuke is ****ing powerful, no one denies it. Who does is biased. But mere power, as strong as it is, is useless to fight Kamui. An atomic bomb or a basical Katon ninjutsu are the same time to phasing.

Kakashi phases. CT fails. Kakashi teleports himself. CT fails. Kakashi preempts Sasuke's chakra focusing and hands clap with Kamui and warps him, or attacks with Kamui Raikiri. CT fails.
 

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Holding back against Kaguya, I suppose. And that doesn't change the fact that while you aren't using your full power to attack, you probably won't like to be closed forever in an unescapable dimension, or to be casually wtfpowned more than once.

But that was never the case. Sasuke was using his "full power" and he never got "wtfpowned" let alone more than once. He was BFR'd, though.

Yeah, he stomps like Kaguya did. Oh wait, Kaguya > Hagoromo and she didn't stomp Kakashi at all, on the opposite she got countered, blitzed, his S/T outperformed...

I'm curious as to how you get Kaguya > Hagoromo That being said, I'm curious how you think Kakashi was able to outperform her. If Kaguya > Hagoromo, then why did Hagoromo-powered Kakashi outperform Kaguya? Do you think Kakashi > Hagoromo?

Sasuke is ****ing powerful, no one denies it. Who does is biased. But mere power, as strong as it is, is useless to fight Kamui. An atomic bomb or a basical Katon ninjutsu are the same time to phasing.

Power isn't useless against Kamui. Besides, Amaterasu is the counter-part that Sasuke has. Kamui head is no better. Kamui phasing doesn't do anything because he can't touch Sasuke without making himself tangible. He also can't maintain those powers for long.

Kakashi phases. CT fails. Kakashi teleports himself. CT fails. Kakashi preempts Sasuke's chakra focusing and hands clap with Kamui and warps him, or attacks with Kamui Raikiri. CT fails.

Again, S/T doesn't work on that CT.
 

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I don't need to, because I've done my homework.

''A relativistic speed is a speed which is a significant proportion of the speed of light. Therefore scientific analysis must take the consequences of special relativity into account. A relativistic particle is a subatomic particle moving at relativistic speed.''

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Also, I don't see how the link you posted is relevant. Has nothing to do with relativistic speed, nor explains it. It only explains basic things about time dilation, time, space and special relativity's basics.

How won't Sasuke see him if Madara could?

Lmao...

The boundary for when a particle becomes relativistic is impossible to define, but a particle can generally be said to be relativistic when Newtonian mechanics no longer provides an accurate description which, within a margin of error of 1%, is 10% of the speed of light for the speeds of the associated masses under consideration.

You don't need to move at the speed of light to distort space and time. Relative speed to distort space and time is 10% of the speed of light, so Gai should be around that percentage.

You didn't read the link, did you? It talked about how time, distance and speed all affect relativity.

Sasuke isn't Madara. Sasuke doesn't have any reaction time feats like Madara. Why do you bother comparing the two?
 

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Sasuke isn't Madara. Sasuke doesn't have any reaction time feats like Madara. Why do you bother comparing the two?

Sasuke blitzed a stronger Madara.

Also, unless you can prove that Gai bending space was a result solely of his speed, then all that good stuff (your link) becomes inapplicable.
 

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Sasuke spanks them
Il explain if need be
 

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Sasuke wins this.
But whats this BS about Gai not being relativistic. Everyone distorts space but the amount is negligible and not measurable according to human standards. Gai distorted space to a great extent. Distortion of space to measurable extend has not been seen even at relativistic speeds. And in theory u need either mass equal to a neutron star or speed equal or greater than the speed of light to distort space time by a visible extent. SO atleast night Gai should be considered relativistic. I don't know whether Sasuke can react to that or not but thats a different issue.
When Gai started producing flames by moving in the sixth gate he already was hypersonic. In seventh gate he was MHS.
Authors generally don't like to draw sonic booms, flames and space distortion always as it makes the art seem messy. But they do draw them at times.
Otherwise Bleach characters who move at MHS speeds have never shown a shockwave to begin with.
When Comic charcters do the same even if it doesn't make sense no one will complain. But when a manga character does the same it is called an outlier and unquantifiable. Lol
 
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