Current Sasuke vs Hashirama Senju(Alive)

[adeshina365]

for 2) Just pointing out that enton would not burn the mokuton instantly, it can still be used even if covered in enton which could actually result in a disadvantage for sasuke.

I'm referring to an Enton Blade:

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[Draphsin]

I'm referring to an Enton Blade:

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The way hashirama caught the sword was to stop the slice, he can do the same against sasuke.

I'm saying if hashi catches the sword like how he did against madara then yes the hands would catch on fire but they wouldn't be destroyed instantly.

 

[KidGamer65]

Two things:

1) While 'feats' don't agree with me, do you agree that creating a second blade is well within Sasuke's means? (Based on logic and similar occurrences in the manga)

Eventually maybe. As of now I have no reason to say he can. We might as well say Madara's PS can wield four swords while we're at it.

2) I've seen you state on multiple occasions that Mokujin and Perfect Susanoo stalemate when put up against each other. Why wouldn't the addition of Enton sway that? We've seen that Katon can burn Mokuton; wouldn't Enton provide the prevent

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sort of situation?

Myojinmon would pin Susanoo, and Hashirama has shown to be able to intercept PS's swings

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If he can't swing his arms, he can't hurt Mokujin, but Mokujin definitely isn't getting past PS so it becomes a battle of stamina, and we all know who will win that one. Overall though, if Sasuke's PS is anywhere near Madara's, which I believe it is, he's stronger than Base Hashirama.

Though if Myojinmon doesn't work, Sasuke has a chance at victory.


Drasphin also made a very good point.

 

[adeshina365]

Eventually maybe. As of now I have no reason to say he can. We might as well say Madara's PS can wield four swords while we're at it.

While I can understand where you're coming from, I think this is a false equivalency. Madara's other two Susanoo arms carry the sheaths of the blades.

Myojinmon would pin Susanoo, and Hashirama has shown to be able to intercept PS's swings

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Sasuke has shown to be able to channel Enton to coat his Susanoo. Couldn't he coat his Susanoo with Enton to burn away Mokujin's arm?

The way hashirama caught the sword was to stop the slice, he can do the same against sasuke.

I'm saying if hashi catches the sword like how he did against madara then yes the hands would catch on fire but they wouldn't be destroyed instantly.

I would imagine that it would be harder to stop the slice of an Enton Blade considering that the heat of blade would help it melt through Mokujin's hands.

The parts of the Enton orb that aren't used to construct the blade could also be used to fire off some Enton Magatama at Hashriama.

 

[KidGamer65]

While I can understand where you're coming from, I think this is a false equivalency. Madara's other two Susanoo arms carry the sheaths of the blades.

No they don't. Susanoo blades don't even have sheaths.

No sheath.

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In this scan you can see a rear hand holding Mokujin's foot.

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Sasuke has shown to be able to channel Enton to coat his Susanoo. Couldn't he coat his Susanoo with Enton to burn away Mokujin's arm?

Enton coating doesn't burn nearly as fast as the needed speed to do any serious damage to Mokujin's arm.

 

[adeshina365]

No they don't. Susanoo blades don't even have sheaths.

No sheath.

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In this scan you can see a rear hand holding Mokujin's foot.

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It seems I'm wrong on this point. I'll concede.

Enton coating doesn't burn nearly as fast as the needed speed to do any serious damage to Mokujin's arm.

I don't think that it would have to burn a significant amount. Just a little would be enough to allow Sasuke to be freed from its grasp. Before Mokujin could grap on again, Sasuke can fire Enton Magatama at Hashirama to force him to defend.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't think that it would have to burn a significant amount. Just a little would be enough to allow Sasuke to be freed from its grasp.

If it didn't burn through Ay's arm, its not going to burn enough for Mokujin to loosen its grip.

 

[adeshina365]

If it didn't burn through Ay's arm, its not going to burn enough for Mokujin to loosen its grip.

I'll concede on this point as well.

Nonetheless, the hand of Susanoo that is below the one that Mokujin held is the one that Sasuke carries his Enton orb on:

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That hand would still be free to fire Enton Magatama.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'll concede on this point as well.

Nonetheless, the hand of Susanoo that is below the one that Mokujin held is the one that Sasuke carries his Enton orb on:

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That hand would still be free to fire Enton Magatama.

He can use the Mokuryu above as a meatshield or simply create Generic Mokuton Branches to block the Magatama. They aren't going to burn through in a matter of seconds considering the fact that they hit Zetsu and they were still left in tact, just disabled.

 

[adeshina365]

He can use the Mokuryu above as a meatshield or simply create Generic Mokuton Branches to block the Magatama. They aren't going to burn through in a matter of seconds considering the fact that they hit Zetsu and they were still left in tact, just disabled.

Well, it seems that you've won this debate. Nonetheless I'm confident that we'll see new feat from Sasuke which will put him above base Hashirama.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well, it seems that you've won this debate. Nonetheless I'm confident that we'll see new feat from Sasuke which will put him above base Hashirama.

Agreed 100%

 

[miromiro]

Hashirama wins.

 

[Bronze]

Hashirama only wins because of the Shinsuusenju. Other than that, all of his other arsenal does not stand up to PS amplified with Enton.

 

[Chīkara]

Current Sasuke wins.​

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

This shit is not worth arguing over evn as a sasuke fanboy arguing only makes sasuke lose even more.. Edo or non edo hashirama spams forests ig enugh to disrupt susanoo he spams wooden dragon which can surpress a bijuu's chakra so surpressing a susanoo's chakra won't be that hard then lastly shinsu senju rapes the whole uchiha clan including itachi excluding madara the fact is sasuke senjufighting match is either tobirama or tsunade hashirama is deffinatly out of his league so please just stopthis madness

 

[Rike Senju]

Hashirama wins. It's not to far fetched to say wood style would just be able to absorb Enton or Amaterasu.