Current Naruto vs Hashirama(Prime)

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You've yet to explain how Hashirama defeats Naruto because i'm not seeing it, wood dragon which is the best(based on it's previous success and Madara chosing it after saying he's serious) technique to restrain/suppress the kyuubi's chakra has already failed to stop Naruto. Flower tree world isn't cutting it either since it can be destroyed and the pollen wouldn't stop Naruto since he can move out of range and nuke the area and possibly be in full biju mode and be above the affected area since it was enough for Gaara to hover Naruto sitting at the top of the kyuubi would be similar.

In the manga there are certain things that don't happen for the sake of plot, just because kishi won't have Naruto blitz an important opponent doesn't mean he can't.

Hashirama hasn't countered tbb that's your assumption a bit hypocritical when you were claiming Naruto can't blitz top tiers because it hasn't been shown but you assume Hashi can stop a tbb even though it hasn't been shown. It doesn't even matter what happened at VOTE because he's not against the kyuubi but Naruto who's a lot stronger than just the bijuu and has a completely different fighting style.

1st bold: so basically naruto is gonna move away from an entire region of forest in a few seconds? seems legit.

2nd bold: tisk tisk whats up with the excuses?

3rd bold: its already stated in the manga that hashirama fought madara and the kyuubi in a fight to the death. what are you getting at? are you gonna try and involve mito in an attempt to taint hashiramas feat despite this already being disproven by madara? narutos clones dont substitute for madara so dont even try saying that narutos clones will even stall hashirama so naruto can prep tbb you deluded fanboy.
 
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hashirama already countered tbb and everything that kyuubi can do at VOTE while fighting madara. this match isnt even close nor will hashirama even be pushed to use his full power.
What is this full power that Hashirama has of which you speak of? I honestly have no idea of what you are talking about. If Hashirama's full power is mokuton, I don't get how Hashirama can beat or even fight Naruto without the use of it.
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3rd bold: its already stated in the manga that hashirama fought madara and the kyuubi in a fight to the death. what are you getting at? are you gonna try and involve mito in an attempt to taint hashiramas feat despite this already being disproven by madara? narutos clones dont substitute for madara so dont even try saying that narutos clones will even stall hashirama so naruto can prep tbb you deluded fanboy.
I found that funny coming from yourself but I do agree with you, Naruto can't beat Hashirama. He may have more raw power, but Hashirama can counter that raw power and make it useless. Not only that but his mokuton grows stronger due to the precense of Naruto's Yang Kyubbi chakra. People also tend to overrate Naruto's clone army which while powerful, Kishi has made sure that against fighters of his tier or higher, they tend to become fodder. Hashirama's massive area of effect attacks will easily destroy those clones. Also, Hashirama could stop Naruto from using a TBB before it is fully prepped.

Lastly, Naruto may have been able to counter edo Madara's mokuton but Madara isn't fighting with the intent to kill and Naruto has people helping him out. Not only that, Hashirama's skill with mokuton will be far greater than Madara's.

Hashirama wins high difficulty.
 

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Yamato was able to sub do a 4 tail Naruto with no effort at all and yamato has claim he is out of hashirama league when it comes to using wood style.

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Also Hashirama was able to control tail beast in battle i think he had 5 under his control as arsenals.

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Hashirama wood dragon was able to give bijuu mode naruto a hard time and on a side note it wasn't only taking on naruto it was also fightning killer bee and might guy and it has the power to absorb chakra so i dont see a bijuu dama working .
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Hashirama mid leaning to high diff, Hashi can suppress the Kyuubi's chakra and plus wood dragon would contain Naruto in Bijuu Mode and Bringer of darkness which would blind Naruto for a while giving Hashi time to prepare Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees to put Naruto to sleep then stab him with a Kunai.
 

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You forget Naruto who is also tiers above him at the moment. Concerning the "facts" you mention, they are usually outdated. Even when i present current feats when we usually debate, you simply ignore them because you simply don't want to listen

That is your own personal opinion. And I don't agree with it. Your FACTS are nothing but hypothetical statements and ALL evidence shows that Sasuke was always a tier above Naruto until he didn't harness his beast's power, and even now, Sasuke has gained a completely new power with EMS. What are you basing this 'tiers above him' logic on? Is there any manga page to back this up?
 
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