Current Naruto in SM vs Current Sasuke with MS.

[pateuvasiliu]

Both have access to any technique they have shown so far.

Sasuke's only drawback is that he will suffer from MS backlash.

Naruto can't use Kyuubi chakra.

Naruto starts with the toad sages on his shoulder, fused, and has the 3 boss toads behind him.

Sasuke has his hawk summoned.

Location: Forest of death.

Distance: 100 meters.

Bonus scenario: Sasuke gets TAKA

Bonus scenario 2: Sasuke gets TAKA, base kabuto, Orochimaru without ET and Manda.

 

[KidGamer65]

Boss Toads are one shotted by Kagutsuchi or Enton Yasaka Magatama.

From then on, Naruto's only option to break Susanoo is FRS and Fire>Wind, Amaterasu is the highest level of Fire Release so a substantial amount of Enton is enough to counter FRS.

Naruto ends up dying to Amaterasu.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Boss Toads are one shotted by Kagutsuchi or Enton Yasaka Magatama.

From then on, Naruto's only option to break Susanoo is FRS and Fire>Wind, Amaterasu is the highest level of Fire Release so a substantial amount of Enton is enough to counter FRS.

Naruto ends up dying to Amaterasu.

That's a lot of MS usage you've got over there.

 

[KidGamer65]

That's a lot of MS usage you've got over there.

Not nearly enough to make Sasuke go blind or collapse.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Boss Toads are one shotted by Kagutsuchi or Enton Yasaka Magatama.

From then on, Naruto's only option to break Susanoo is FRS and Fire>Wind, Amaterasu is the highest level of Fire Release so a substantial amount of Enton is enough to counter FRS.

Naruto ends up dying to Amaterasu.

Really? Even when he has info on it, and is able to sense and feint Sasuke with clones?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

How can Naruto get hit by Amaterasu when he can make a [insert number from 50 to 1000] clones?

Not to mention, let's stop this Amaterasu gg nonsense. Amaterasu only hit stationary targets. Sasuke was able to dodge it.

 

[KidGamer65]

How can Naruto get hit by Amaterasu when he can make a [insert number from 50 to 1000] clones?

Not to mention, let's stop this Amaterasu gg nonsense. Amaterasu only hit stationary targets. Sasuke was able to dodge it.

I agree Naruto could evade Amaterasu if he uses clones from the start, but Sasuke being able to dodge it? Lmao, no.

 

[KidGamer65]

Really? Even when he has info on it, and is able to sense and feint Sasuke with clones?

Being able to sense it doesn't mean he can dodge it, and if Sasuke closes in on him and wipes out his clones first then its a possibility, other wise no. My bad on that part.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I agree Naruto could evade Amaterasu if he uses clones from the start, but Sasuke being able to dodge it? Lmao, no.

And yet, he did.

You can argue Itachi didn't want to kill him then, but why did he hit him 5 seconds afterwards? That makes no sense.

Also, SM Naruto is faster than Sasuke in CM and he also has the advantage of sensing it.

 

[KidGamer65]

And yet, he did.

You can argue Itachi didn't want to kill him then, but why did he hit him 5 seconds afterwards?

Obviously he's going to have to hit him to make his act believable, and he was aiming for his wing, not his body.

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And he manifested the flames on a separate spot and then used them to chase Sasuke.

A in V1 is faster than Sasuke and he needed V2 to be able to evade Amaterasu yet you think Sasuke who is slower than V1 A can dodge it? No. Had Itachi aimed for his body he would have died.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Being able to sense it doesn't mean he can dodge it, and if Sasuke closes in on him and wipes out his clones first then its a possibility, other wise no. My bad on that part.

Yeah, I have no doubts that Naruto would get burnt to a crisp should Sasuke target the real Naruto. With his info on the tech [

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] however, I'm not too sure if he'd get the chance. Engaging Naruto and/or his clones may prove costly for Sasuke too, seeing as he's lacking information on Frog Kumite, which would surely knock him down. To be honest, it depends on how they both play their cards. I personally believe current SM Naruto is superior to Sasuke's MS state.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yeah, I have no doubts that Naruto would get burnt to a crisp should Sasuke target the real Naruto. With his info on the tech [

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] however, I'm not too sure if he'd get the chance. Engaging Naruto and/or his clones may prove costly for Sasuke too, seeing as he's lacking information on Frog Kumite, which would surely knock him down. To be honest, it depends on how they both play their cards. I personally believe current SM Naruto is superior to Sasuke's MS state.

If Sasuke is protected by his lvl 1 Susanoo then Frog Kata won't do much, not to mention he's shown the use of Kagutschi for long ranged assaults so he doesn't have to get in Frog Kata range.

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[pateuvasiliu]

Obviously he's going to have to hit him to make his act believable, and he was aiming for his wing, not his body.

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And he manifested the flames on a separate spot and then used them to chase Sasuke.

A in V1 is faster than Sasuke and he needed V2 to be able to evade Amaterasu yet you think Sasuke who is slower than V1 A can dodge it? No. Had Itachi aimed for his body he would have died.

Yeah but you have to factor in that Ay did not start moving until Amaterasu was already spawned on him and had no intel on it, whereas Naruto can sense it and does.

And Itachi knew Amaterasu would spread, so it still makes no sense. It burned Sasuke within seconds.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yeah but you have to factor in that Ay did not start moving until Amaterasu was already spawned on him and had no intel on it, whereas Naruto can sense it and does.

And Itachi knew Amaterasu would spread, so it still makes no sense. It burned Sasuke within seconds.

SM Naruto isn't fast enough to escape the Sharingan's vision, eventually Sasuke will end up catching him just like Itachi ended up catching Sasuke.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

If Sasuke is protected by his lvl 1 Susanoo then Frog Kata won't do much, not to mention he's shown the use of Kagutschi for long ranged assaults so he doesn't have to get in Frog Kata range.

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I'm fairy certain a Rasenshuriken will open that up. And with his various feinting techniques, it should be possible.

Man, it depends on how long Sasuke can keep it up for. I mean, Naruto can create a ridiculous amount of clones [

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[pateuvasiliu]

SM Naruto isn't fast enough to escape the Sharingan's vision, eventually Sasuke will end up catching him just like Itachi ended up catching Sasuke.

It's not about catching him, it's about being able to avoid it by strafing and then using a clone.

As for Naruto's speed, I might be pulling on straws here, but Jiraiya, whom boasts an incomplete Sage Mode, was able to blitz a Rinnegan user and Naruto's SM is supposedly superior.

 

[MickNerks]

Being able to sense it doesn't mean he can dodge it, and if Sasuke closes in on him and wipes out his clones first then its a possibility, other wise no. My bad on that part.

In Sage Mode naruto's reflexes are on Hax levels. I dont think Amaterasu will be a problem for someone who could out manuver a lightning armoured Raikage.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Amaterasu right of the bat, sasuke wins

 

[KidGamer65]

Yeah, I've changed my mind. Naruto wins this as he's merged with Ma and Pa.

 

[HadouKage]

I think it can go either way depending on the circumstances. I have to give it to Sasuke because of Sussano and Enton