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Stop at Taka (4)

Sup Kages you're late:D. We already came down with the fact L&G gets pass Taka. I seen enough tbh I wanted to see what everyone thought and where they stop at with some facts and good point but only a few really did some fanboys was saying things like no diff.
 
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He didn't have enough time to react physically, not mentally. His body failed to keep up not his mind.

Stop with the 8th Gate crap because it is featless, you don't know what it does so it is a null point in this thread.

No one has bothered to show how they get past PS.
Dude, it's hopeless, just ignore him.
 

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Dude, it's hopeless, just ignore him.

You guys aren't coming up with good points and I don't think Madara being connected to the Juubi stop him from puttin up some type of susanoo and you never said how Madara would win. You well he just said they can't get pass susanoo come up with a good argument of how you think the battle would go down. Cmon no fanboying around let be serious about this.
 

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You guys aren't coming up with good points and I don't think Madara being connected to the Juubi stop him from puttin up some type of susanoo and you never said how Madara would win. You well he just said they can't get pass susanoo come up with a good argument of how you think the battle would go down. Cmon no fanboying around let be serious about this.
Fine..

Lee and Guy have no way of beating him, and the fact that Lee kicked him doesn't really mean too much.

  • Madara was concentrating on keeping the Juubi at bay, is apparently it had gotten a bit hard to control
  • Madara's movements were restricted due to the cords
  • Lee was powered up by the Kyuubi chakra
  • Madara underestimated Lee, which won't happen again, since he now knows what he's capable of

These are the reasons Madara wouldn't fall for the same tactic twice, with the main reason being the fact that Madara simply underestimated Lee. That however, obviously won't happen again, and just to be safe from the immense speed of both opponents, he'd likely go Susanoo fairly early in the fight.

Neither Lee nor Guy has a chance of getting through the Susanoo and actually harm Madara, with the main reasons being that

  1. They can't break through it
  2. He's simply way too high up in the air

Madara simply wouldn't be effected by any of their techs, while they have nothing to do but defend against techniques such as his Katon, or simply the sword of his Susanoo. To defend against the sheer range and power of these techniques, they'd surely have to go gates, which won't last forever.

Putting it shortly, Madara wouldn't underestimate them again, so he'd pull out the Susanoo. After that, all he has to do is tire them out, while none of the techniques in their arsenal have anything which points to them being able to get through the Susanoo.
 

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Fine..

Lee and Guy have no way of beating him, and the fact that Lee kicked him doesn't really mean too much.

  • Madara was concentrating on keeping the Juubi at bay, is apparently it had gotten a bit hard to control
  • Madara's movements were restricted due to the cords
  • Lee was powered up by the Kyuubi chakra
  • Madara underestimated Lee, which won't happen again, since he now knows what he's capable of

These are the reasons Madara wouldn't fall for the same tactic twice, with the main reason being the fact that Madara simply underestimated Lee. That however, obviously won't happen again, and just to be safe from the immense speed of both opponents, he'd likely go Susanoo fairly early in the fight.

Neither Lee nor Guy has a chance of getting through the Susanoo and actually harm Madara, with the main reasons being that

  1. They can't break through it
  2. He's simply way too high up in the air

Madara simply wouldn't be effected by any of their techs, while they have nothing to do but defend against techniques such as his Katon, or simply the sword of his Susanoo. To defend against the sheer range and power of these techniques, they'd surely have to go gates, which won't last forever.

Putting it shortly, Madara wouldn't underestimate them again, so he'd pull out the Susanoo. After that, all he has to do is tire them out, while none of the techniques in their arsenal have anything which points to them being able to get through the Susanoo.

Thank you, but I gonna disagree but first
Kyuubi chakra was able to heal them and it would surely allow them to use gates longer.
Madara's sword slash was dodge by the Kage wasn't it? and I believe L & G would do it as well as counter his katon with Hirudora or MP possibly even dodge it.
Madara doesn't have infinite chakra so he wouldnt hold PS forever and Lee and Guy have been show to be able to going in and out of gates in a snap of a finger without being tired + Kyuubi chakra would help them farther.

Your real argument is Susanoo right? can they get past susanoo and I think if Madara was to put up PSbefore anything else and if 1 still can still use 8th or Lee use 7th gate both him and Guy can do a double Hirudora that could break the face of susanoo and take Madara out.
 
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Thank you, but I gonna disagree but first
Kyuubi chakra was able to heal them and it would surely allow them to use gates longer.
Madara's sword slash was dodge by the Kage wasn't it? and I believe L & G would do it as well as counter his katon with Hirudora or MP possibly even dodge it.
Madara doesn't have infinite chakra so he wouldnt hold PS forever and Lee and Guy have been show to be able to going in and out of gates in a snap of a finger without being tired + Kyuubi chakra would help them farther.

Your real argument is Susanoo right? can they get past susanoo and I think if Madara was to put up PSbefore anything else and if 1 still can still use 8th or Lee use 7th gate both him and Guy can do a double Hirudora that could break the face of susanoo and take Madara out.
The kage never dodged it, they were helpless against it. He simply slashed in their direction to show them just really how far beneath him they are. And the Kyuubi chakra isn't permanent.

Madara doesn't need infinite chakra, the range of the sword and his techniques is not something you can dodge for long.

Lee has neither the 7th gate nor the Hirudora, and the fact that it beat the CS does not mean that it can get through the Perfect Susanoo.
 

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The kage never dodged it, they were helpless against it. He simply slashed in their direction to show them just really how far beneath him they are. And the Kyuubi chakra isn't permanent.

Madara doesn't need infinite chakra, the range of the sword and his techniques is not something you can dodge for long.

Lee has neither the 7th gate nor the Hirudora, and the fact that it beat the CS does not mean that it can get through the Perfect Susanoo.

Rock Lee hasn't used 7th gate but with Kyuubi chakra I would think he could since it heals him and make him more durable. I think the slash is dodgeable especially with their speed. This is where the 8th gate would be used and that's how I think they will win If a double Hirudora doesn't do the trick and PS is up instantly as soon as the fight start.
 

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The kage never dodged it, they were helpless against it. He simply slashed in their direction to show them just really how far beneath him they are. And the Kyuubi chakra isn't permanent.

Madara doesn't need infinite chakra, the range of the sword and his techniques is not something you can dodge for long.

Lee has neither the 7th gate nor the Hirudora, and the fact that it beat the CS does not mean that it can get through the Perfect Susanoo.

Rock Lee hasn't used 7th gate but with Kyuubi chakra I would think he could since it heals him and make him more durable. I think the slash is dodgeable especially with their speed. This is where the 8th gate would be used and that's how I think they will win If a double Hirudora doesn't do the trick and PS is up instantly as soon as the fight start.

This is basicly what I was thinking. 1 will use 8th gate here
 

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Rock Lee hasn't used 7th gate but with Kyuubi chakra I would think he could since it heals him and make him more durable. I think the slash is dodgeable especially with their speed. This is where the 8th gate would be used and that's how I think they will win If a double Hirudora doesn't do the trick and PS is up instantly as soon as the fight start.

Lol, funny. Saying Lee instantly learns the 7th gate with Kurama's chakra is like saying Sakura can use the Amaterasu in the KM.
 

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Lol, funny. Saying Lee instantly learns the 7th gate with Kurama's chakra is like saying Sakura can use the Amaterasu in the KM.

-_- you relly are slow aren't you? todo Amaterasu you need MS. Guy was going to unlock the 8th even though he never unlocked it before hand. Lee knows how to unlock all the gates but the reason why he doesn't now is because it would be too tough on his body and risk death unlocking more than is body can handle but KC changes that now doesn't. Why am I still talking to you? You know nothing about Lee and Guy and say the dumbest things.
 
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-_- you relly are slow aren't you? todo Amaterasu you need MS. Guy was going to unlock the 8th even though henever unlocked it before hand. Lee knows how unlock all the gates but the reason why he doesn't now is because it would be too tough on his body and risk death unlocking more than is body can handle but KC changes that now doesn't. Why am I still talking to you? You know nothing

Manga scan please.
 

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Manga scan please.

He knows where they are located and how to open a gate it's not like memorizing Just signs. I'm not gonna wast my time no longer on you and time my time find the pages instant you got watch Lee's fight and Kakashi and Guy talking about the gates and the key words to that post is HOW TO
 

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Manga scan please.

There have multiple hints at Lee opening more gates, I think he will very soon in the manga. Guy and Lee know show to unlock them all but don't for the obvious reason slaton02 stated damaged to their body will kill them. Guy never unlocked the 8th gate but as we saw in the manga was capable of doing so.
 
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Lee nd guy (in character) would stop at gold nd silver bros.
 

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Lee nd guy (in character) would stop at gold nd silver bros.
 

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Fine..

Lee and Guy have no way of beating him, and the fact that Lee kicked him doesn't really mean too much.

  • Madara was concentrating on keeping the Juubi at bay, is apparently it had gotten a bit hard to control
  • Madara's movements were restricted due to the cords
  • Lee was powered up by the Kyuubi chakra
  • Madara underestimated Lee, which won't happen again, since he now knows what he's capable of

These are the reasons Madara wouldn't fall for the same tactic twice, with the main reason being the fact that Madara simply underestimated Lee. That however, obviously won't happen again, and just to be safe from the immense speed of both opponents, he'd likely go Susanoo fairly early in the fight.


Neither Lee nor Guy has a chance of getting through the Susanoo and actually harm Madara, with the main reasons being that

  1. They can't break through it
  2. He's simply way too high up in the air

Madara simply wouldn't be effected by any of their techs, while they have nothing to do but defend against techniques such as his Katon, or simply the sword of his Susanoo. To defend against the sheer range and power of these techniques, they'd surely have to go gates, which won't last forever.

Putting it shortly, Madara wouldn't underestimate them again, so he'd pull out the Susanoo. After that, all he has to do is tire them out, while none of the techniques in their arsenal have anything which points to them being able to get through the Susanoo.

The first part(bolded) is definitely reasonable. The second part is debatable.

First off, Guy and Lee both start out with Kurama's chakra, meaning that their attacks are gonna be:

-Much faster (as seen when Lee was able to kick Madara before he was able to react properly.)
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-Much stronger (Lee kicked straight through Madara's body AND severed his link with the juubi in ONE kick)

Your arguement of them having no way to break it holds no water. Hirudora has a significant feat where it was able to at least force Madara to deactivate his complete susanoo(whether it was destroyed by the tech or it was deactivated due to madaras sudden lack of control from the blast has yet to be revealed.)

You also say its to high in the air, which I am guessing that you are referring to PS. People dont seem to realize that forming PS actually takes time to do. Not only does madara have to create the final form(with its massive size, legs, and clothing), but also stabilize the chakra, all of which didn't happen in one panel. In that amount of time, Guy and Lee would be able to pulverize whatever Madara has made while he is trying to form it, causing him to repeatedly waste his finite chakra trying to complete it.

If things got down and dirty, they are able to, by the statement of the OP, use the 8th gate once, consuming all of kuramas chakra to keep them alive for its duration. While featless, the 8th gate's power is hyped up so tremendously, that it is very possible that not even PS would likley stand up to a barrage of blows from it, let alone two 8 gate users.

It is much more likely that Madara will fall victim to chakra exhaustion before Lee and Guy, even with the EMS considering how much chakra it would take to maintain something as powerful as PS whereas both Guy and Lee have both been noted to have greats amounts of stamina naturally all of which is greatly supported by Kuramas chakra.
 

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o_O, sorry, I thought this is the normal Guy and Lee.

1.vs Gin and Kin Guy and Lee mid diff
2.vs Kakuzu and Hidan Guy and Lee low diff
3.vs 6pop It can go either way
4.vs Taka Sasuke solos
5.vs EMS Madara Madara stomps
6.vs Kisame and Itachi Genjutsu ftw
7.vs Kakashi and sage mode Naruto Guy and Lee mid- high diff
8.vs 5 kage The Gokage low diff
9.vs Bee and Kcm Naruto Bee and Naruto mid- high diff
10.vs Kabuto with Edo Madara(Lee and Guy have a sealing scroll) Kabuto and Madara stomps negative diff

btw, Madara was busy with controlling the Juubi, this is why Lee was able to hit him.
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Oh, and Pain stomps no diff, 'cause PretaPath can counter the Kyuubi's cloak.
 
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