Current Kakashi vs Part 1 Orochimaru

[ATD]

Orochimaru stomps

Kakshi can't even beat Sakura right now

1. How ?
2. your opinion, but the truth is he would blitz sakura.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

1. How ?
2. your opinion, but the truth is he would blitz sakura.

Kakashi can't put diwn Oro by any means. Oro can kill Kakashi

Sakura has better portrayal, Kakashi for all we know is fodder without sharingan. And jonin level is currently fodder level thanks to powerscaling from part 1. Current Kakashi is nowhere near kage level

 

[synkross]

u do realize that current Kakashi is High jonin at best. Oro negs.

 

[Europa]

I would like to take you seriously but this fanboyism is too much.

Oh look, the pot calling the kettle black.

This was 600 chapters ago and kakashi was out of shape.

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current Kakashi had faced opponents like madara and kaguya.
In most of the time he stayed calm and kept his mind clear.

he won't loose to part 1 orochimaru

And still no Jutsu that can harm Orochimaru.

 

[ATD]

Kakashi can't put diwn Oro by any means. Oro can kill Kakashi

Sakura has better portrayal, Kakashi for all we know is fodder without sharingan. And jonin level is currently fodder level thanks to powerscaling from part 1. Current Kakashi is nowhere near kage level

Thats a horrible argumentation, please try to explain why part 1 Orochimaru defeats current kakashi !
Kakashi has intel on all of orochimarus abilities while orochimaru don't know about kakashis several raikiri variants.
Current kakashi has the stamina and chakra to survive very long battles.
The summonings of orochimaru are no match for raiden, which cut v2 jinchurikies.
In Data book it says the have both a 4.5 in speed, but current kakashi is faster than part 1 orochimaru, this doesn't need to be explained.
The Databook also says that orochimaru isn't good in taijutsu with a 3.5, Kakashi overwhelms him with his current taijutsu.
Doton hiding like a mole + clone feints also gives kakashi the victory, he fooled itachi with a clone feint of his level, i don't see part 1 orochimaru seeing through it.

Kakashi is still Kage level, he is much faster than sakura, the latter gets blitzed with a raikiri kunai or ration beast runner.

 

[ATD]

Oh look, the pot calling the kettle black.


And still no Jutsu that can harm Orochimaru.

Raiden, beast runner, raiton kage bunshin, raikiri kunai, Suiton water dragon, suiton water vortex, better taijutsu skills (a kunai is enough to force orochimaru to use oral rebirth), opening the first gate would give kakashi definitely the speed (his normal food speed is even superior to orochimarus) and strength advantage.
Kakashis nin dogs also are a threat because they can attack from underneath any time and can slow orochimaru down while the latter is fighting kakashi.
Kakashi can use multiple shadow clones to attack orochimaru from all points.

Orochimaru looses, you should explain what part 1 orochimaru can do against kakashi.

 

[Europa]

Raiden, beast runner, raiton kage bunshin, raikiri kunai, Suiton water dragon, suiton water vortex, better taijutsu skills (a kunai is enough to force orochimaru to use oral rebirth), opening the first gate would give kakashi definitely the speed (his normal food speed is even superior to orochimarus) and strength advantage.
Kakashis nin dogs also are a threat because they can attack from underneath any time and can slow orochimaru down while the latter is fighting kakashi.
Kakashi can use multiple shadow clones to attack orochimaru from all points.

Orochimaru looses, you should explain what part 1 orochimaru can do against kakashi.

None of those Jutsu can kill Orochimaru, some of them don't even require Oral Rebirth to handle. Leech All Creation and simple tanking the ones like Water Dragon and Water Vortex is more than enough.
Ignoring the kunai being enough to force Orochimaru to use Oral Rebirth part.
Raiden won't be killing Orochimaru, Beast Runner is countered through Gathering of Snakes, Raikiri Kunai will not be killing Orochimaru.
Bear in mind Orochimaru also has Kage Bunshins. The whole clone feint strategy isn't exclusive to Kakashi in this.
But to kill Kakashi there's the giant snakes, Manda, Yamata-no-Orochi, Sea of Snakes, etc. Without the Mangekyō Sharingan Kakashi has no chance of stopping Manda. Orochimaru low diffs.

 

[ATD]

None of those Jutsu can kill Orochimaru, some of them don't even require Oral Rebirth to handle. Leech All Creation and simple tanking the ones like Water Dragon and Water Vortex is more than enough.

beast runner is fast and can dodge things with its zig zag course, i doubt orochimaru is fast enough to handle the ration dog. Even if he doesn't die after he took a hit he would still be paralyzed by the lightning which creates an opening for a kunai head chop off.

Ignoring the kunai being enough to force Orochimaru to use Oral Rebirth part.
Raiden won't be killing Orochimaru, Beast Runner is countered through Gathering of Snakes, Raikiri Kunai will not be killing Orochimaru.

of course, zabuza cut gatos head with a kunai, i see kakashi is able to do the same thing since he has the strength to wield the execution blade of zabuza single handed.
raiden cut through v2 chakra tails, the same chakra orochimarus blade wasn't able to cut, raiden will cut through all of orochimarus snakes and his body in few seconds.
beast runner dodges snakes, raikiri kunai cut through big rocks so it will kill orochimaru...

Bear in mind Orochimaru also has Kage Bunshins. The whole clone feint strategy isn't exclusive to Kakashi in this.
But to kill Kakashi there's the giant snakes, Manda, Yamata-no-Orochi, Sea of Snakes, etc. Without the Mangekyō Sharingan Kakashi has no chance of stopping Manda. Orochimaru low diffs.

Itachi also was a clone user and still got fooled.
We are talking about part 1 orochimaru and manda is restricted, the other bigger snakes of orochimaru will be cut into pieces with raiden.
Sea of snakes get drowned with water vortex.

 

[Benjamin King]

Elaborate. Kakashi in his current state is far worse than him in part one, besides reserves and whatnot.

Since this is P1 Orochimaru, his feats are only based on that. In any case, Taijutsu, Ninjutsu are all on Kakashi's side. He physically kept up with 6th Gated Gai and V2 Jinchuuriki, who Gai in that gate blitzed Kisame. P1 Orochimaru has no reaction time feats indicating to keep up with Kakashi. Since he also has no regeneration, being killed is easy. Kakashi sends out a clone and uses Doton: Hidden Mole to immobilize him with chains as he did to Deva Path, then he kills him via Raikiri. Inb4 he can't use it without Sharingan, because he did and will do it easily to an opponent that's immobilized by chains. P1 Orochimaru has no Body Shedding or form of regeneration, meaning he gets killed.

 

[BlacLord™]

Kakashi wins mid-diff at best.

Part 1 Oro is pretty poor, really. Kakashi has shown physical speed to surprise Kaguya, so Part 1 Oro is no problem.

 

[JStar King]

Current Kakashi has no MS. Plus in the Gaiden arc, Orochimaru proved that he could've killed him.

 

[Joker]

Since this is P1 Orochimaru, his feats are only based on that. In any case, Taijutsu, Ninjutsu are all on Kakashi's side. He physically kept up with 6th Gated Gai and V2 Jinchuuriki, who Gai in that gate blitzed Kisame. P1 Orochimaru has no reaction time feats indicating to keep up with Kakashi. Since he also has no regeneration, being killed is easy. Kakashi sends out a clone and uses Doton: Hidden Mole to immobilize him with chains as he did to Deva Path, then he kills him via Raikiri. Inb4 he can't use it without Sharingan, because he did and will do it easily to an opponent that's immobilized by chains. P1 Orochimaru has no Body Shedding or form of regeneration, meaning he gets killed.

Incorrect, back in Kabuto's flashback which took place before the beginning of the series, Orochimaru clearly used his shedding abilities. Part one Orochimaru by manga timelines, indeed has his regeneration.

 

[BlacLord™]

Current Kakashi has no MS. Plus in the Gaiden arc, Orochimaru proved that he could've killed him.

Not canon.

Part 1 Orochimaru struggled with aged Hiruzen and as I've pointed out, Part 2 Kakashi had the physical speed to hit Kaguya.

Not having the MS is a double-edged sword for Oro, because even though he doesn't have Kamui, he has a lot more chakra thanks to all the extra battle experience and "exercise", and can dedicate it to coming up with

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[ATD]

Incorrect, back in Kabuto's flashback which took place before the beginning of the series, Orochimaru clearly used his shedding abilities. Part one Orochimaru by manga timelines, indeed has his regeneration.

He still would loose, kakashi chops his head off. Even if he has oral rebirth due to being faster than part 1 orochimaru it won't be that difficult for kakashi to chop his head multiple times off.