Current Kakashi Vs Minato

[shelke]

We are not even sure if Kakashi even wrapped the whole Hachibi, but look at the fans, and the fact he received a huge chakra boost because of Kurama and that might not even be there once the battle is over. Kamui's warp point is instant NOT the warping itself, hence it can be easily avoided by throwing anything at the warp point or moving out of the way. Minato's S/T jutsu is quite instant, and he can easily tag kakashi whose base speed is no where near his. One FTG after this and it's over as Kakashi has no sussano or Amatersu to guard himself. A relatively easy win.

 

[HadouKage]

Teleport him from WHAT?
As I said, Kakashi can warp him instantly, as opposed to Obito. Minato barely escaped Obito's Kamui, he could not escape Kakashi's.

And if you mean that he could teleport out of the other dimension - sorry, no indication of this possible. With Obito being sure that Minato won't be able to escape, it's very unlikely.

No I don't, as I said before. Is Minato just gonna stand there and get Kamui'ed?

 

[Takos]

No I don't, as I said before. Is Minato just gonna stand there and get Kamui'ed?

No but he doesn't need to just stand to get kamuied. As I said, if Kakashi can see him for a moment, he can win.

 

[HadouKage]

No but he doesn't need to just stand to get kamuied. As I said, if Kakashi can see him for a moment, he can win.

Now you're underestimating FTG

 

[shelke]

If Kakashi's Kamui was instant, it would've done something to Gedo's head and yet, you can see the warp point appear and Obito having enough time to react. Hence this whole logic. Warp point is instant, but Kamui itself is not.

 

[Takos]

Now you're underestimating FTG

No, I'm not.
Minato against Kakashi has 2 basic options to use FTG:
a) He can try to mark Kakashi himself, which would pretty much result in Minato's win. This is, however, dangerous for him, because he needs to get close to Kakashi. While Minato's speed is much higher than Kakashi, it's not enough to stay out of his sight. Thus, Kakashi has chances to Kamui him in that moment.
b) He can hide himself from Kakashi and throw marked kunais at him. After a kunai gets close to Kakashi, he can teleport to it and then use Rasengan. While this technique is less risky to Minato, there is a risk of Kakashi noticing the Kunai and kamuing or stopping it otherwise.

Additionally, both of these methods have another counter - Kage Bunshin. If Minato by mistake performs any of the two strategies and kills only a clone, he's probably done for, because real Kakashi would watch from hiding and kamui Minato as soon as he shows up.

If Kakashi's Kamui was instant, it would've done something to Gedo's head and yet, you can see the warp point appear and Obito having enough time to react. Hence this whole logic. Warp point is instant, but Kamui itself is not.

The more massive the object, the more time it takes to warp it. If every Kamui required time, then Obito would have noticed Kakashi kamuing Naruto in front of him (especially with a Sharingan). Against Minato, no huge Kamui is needed.

 

[HadouKage]

No, I'm not.
Minato against Kakashi has 2 basic options to use FTG:
a) He can try to mark Kakashi himself, which would pretty much result in Minato's win. This is, however, dangerous for him, because he needs to get close to Kakashi. While Minato's speed is much higher than Kakashi, it's not enough to stay out of his sight. Thus, Kakashi has chances to Kamui him in that moment.
b) He can hide himself from Kakashi and throw marked kunais at him. After a kunai gets close to Kakashi, he can teleport to it and then use Rasengan. While this technique is less risky to Minato, there is a risk of Kakashi noticing the Kunai and kamuing or stopping it otherwise.

Additionally, both of these methods have another counter - Kage Bunshin. If Minato by mistake performs any of the two strategies and kills only a clone, he's probably done for, because real Kakashi would watch from hiding and kamui Minato as soon as he shows up.



The more massive the object, the more time it takes to warp it. If every Kamui required time, then Obito would have noticed Kakashi kamuing Naruto in front of him (especially with a Sharingan). Against Minato, no huge Kamui is needed.

Sigh, FTG > Kamui
Kakashi has to concentrate on his target, soon as Minato throws the Kunai, he gains the advantage

 

[Takos]

Sigh, FTG > Kamui
Kakashi has to concentrate on his target, soon as Minato throws the Kunai, he gains the advantage

Sorry, but both Minato and Kakashi said that Kamui is better than FTG.

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[HadouKage]

Sorry, but both Minato and Kakashi said that Kamui is better than FTG.

Yeah Obito's

 

[Takos]

Yeah Obito's

This is the same technique. While Kakashi's version is worse in the fact that Kakashi cannot turn intangible, Obito's version is useless long range and slower.

 

[HadouKage]

This is the same technique. While Kakashi's version is worse in the fact that Kakashi cannot turn intangible, Obito's version is useless long range.

I realize that it's the same technique, however it's because of Obito's intangibility that made his S/T tech better than Minato's. Tell me Minato throws two kunai marked with FTG, what's kakashi gonna do? =/

 

[Takos]

I realize that it's the same technique, however it's because of Obito's intangibility that made his S/T tech better than Minato's. Tell me Minato throws two kunai marked with FTG, what's kakashi gonna do? =/

If they're both aimed at Kakashi, then they will be close to one another, so Kakashi can kamui both of them.

All I'm trying to say is that Minato can't defeat Kakashi low difficulty. He can, but it's more complicated than that, as you can see.

 

[HadouKage]

If they're both aimed at Kakashi, then they will be close to one another, so Kakashi can kamui both of them.

All I'm trying to say is that Minato can't defeat Kakashi low difficulty. He can, but it's more complicated than that, as you can see.

I disagree, seeing as how you are a Kakashi fanboy, I see no point in debating anymore

 

[Takos]

I disagree, seeing as how you are a Kakashi fanboy, I see no point in debating anymore

It's your choice. I have given rational arguments, you can think of them whatever you wish.

 

[Itachi Minato]

minato wouldnt win easily but he would win

 

[LegendaryAce]

a 14 year old obito and a 29 year old kakashi are very diffrent. To say kakashi would not land a hit is a bit extreme. kamui is also instant i dont think speed will be much of a problem for kakashi. We all know Kamui is far more advanced than ftg. that came from the 4th himself. Kakashi has a good chance aganist him.

Tell me how many ninjas have touched minato or made him bleed?

a 14 year old obito and a 29 year old kakashi are very diffrent. To say kakashi would not land a hit is a bit extreme. kamui is also instant i dont think speed will be much of a problem for kakashi. We all know Kamui is far more advanced than ftg. that came from the 4th himself. Kakashi has a good chance aganist him.

Tell me how many ninjas have touched minato or made him bleed?

What's stopping him from teleporting away from another dimension ...ftg should teleport him to whatever seal he wants to go to ..since it takes him from 1 point to another

 

[Assuma]

Even though Kakashi is pretty strong and stuff... Minato is just stronger

 

[VongolaX]

minato bearly defeated a very young obito with little experience. If they were to fight again i dnt think it will go down the same way.

there was no little experience he used kamui countless time against the anbu mist.
So that's enough experience for me

 

[Ryuchidori]

lol don't worry i get it. but those orders are givin to fodder ninjas not someone like kakashi. minato speed comes from ftg. to stop ftg and to predict it u need to find out where his beacons are. if you find out where that is then u knw the possible places where minato is goin to go. and man kamui warped a bm clone naruto so fast obito with sharingan and rinnengan perception did not notice. it is pretty instant to me.

Yea, u r right, Minato can go home, easilly too

 

[Ryuchidori]

what i said was that kakashi can use kumai when minato is trowing the kunais make a black whole in the middle and absorbe as many as possible like in deidaras case.. minato can run away to whereever he likes but he wont have must of his kunai.. guess what. that was only one kumai in a well placed position to take the most.

there is a big different btw the reaction that a 14 years old kid can have against a well trained man.
Well trained prime man>>a 14 years old kid reaction time. thats like what happened with obito, he coulnt react to Minato, because minato was a prime man specialized.

If minato face obito when he was growth up we might be earing a different story. but thats not the point.

Maybe kakashi stand a chances, at least kakashi is smarter than minato.



????Third Raikage are we reading same manga.
Minago fought the 4th Raikage not the third.. Minato dint won he ran away after sparing with the guy and went to targeted Bee but failed.

Just funny u r, i am not bothering myself for answering you especailly after i heard u said Kakashi is smarter then Minato... That could be only a joke...