Current Kakashi vs Hebi Sasuke

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with the intent to kill i can see kakashi winning but idk. kakashi isnt an uchiha so his use of the sharingan will drain his chakra especially since he would be using kamui up to about 5 times. sasuke doesn't even have ms and even though his intelligence is high, kakashi still superior in that category.
 

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This is a tough one. What makes Sasuke powerful at this point was his curse seal and his snake summonings. They would both push each other no doubt.
-Ninjutsu wise Kakashi has the upper hand since he knows more techs but also lacks in stamina so this could go ether way.
-Taijutsu wise Kakashi should win.
-Genjutsu is useless in this battle b/c nether have a high level tech in that field.
-kenjutsu I feel is useless as well. Kakashi could easily disarm Sasuke.

-If Oro shows up in the fight with his Hydra tech then Kakashi will have a problem and would most likely be forced to Kamui Oro's head

-I think in the end it comes down the pure Skill which Kakashi has more of. Kakashi would find a way to trick/confuse Sasuke and then go in for the win. But it won't be easy
 
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Kakashi wins

The only thing Hebi Sasuke has over Kakashi is better durability thanks to his form and better stamina. Mind you Kakashi's stamina issues have gotten a lot better in Part 2 so it shouldn't play a huge part in this battle.

Sasuke's smart. Kakashi's smarter.
Sasuke has a decent variety of jutsu. Kakashi's one of the most versatile characters in the entire manga.
Sasuke's fast. Kakashi can match him in speed.

Kakashi's bunshin feints are among the best in the series, and him pulling one of against Sasuke is inevitable.

Sasuke's chidori is good. Raikiri and Raiden is better.
Sasuke's a decent taijutsu fighter. Kakashi's better.

If Sasuke pushes Kakashi to his limit, his sensei would warp him into another dimension.
 

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Who ever wins will take it with high difficulty.
Hebi sasuke has shown me enough which leads me to believe he will just edge this fight.
If sasuke was to summon manda and control him, manda alone would be a very difficult opponent for kakashi. If you add the fact that sasuke is the better sharigan user and with that could counter kakash in either taijutsu or ninjutsu.

They are very similar therefore its hard to say who would actually win, although my mind tells me sasuke
 

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If sasuke was to summon manda and control him, manda alone would be a very difficult opponent for kakashi.
Manda isn't going to be posing huge problems to Kakashi. Even Tsunade (who is a full tier slower than Kakashi) managed to react and blitz Manda with ease. Now Kakashi's not only faster than her, but he also has a sharingan. Basically, he can simply avoid Manda and focus on Sasuke.

If you add the fact that sasuke is the better sharigan user
Hebi Sasuke is a better sharingan user than current Kakashi? Absolutely not. Hebi Sasuke lacks MS. Something which Kakashi has.

I agree that the fight might be high difficulty though (if kakashi doesn't use Kamui early that is)
 

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Manda isn't going to be posing huge problems to Kakashi. Even Tsunade (who is a full tier slower than Kakashi) managed to react and blitz Manda with ease. Now Kakashi's not only faster than her, but he also has a sharingan.
Manda posses problems to kakashi, even if kakashi can evade him, its still a troublesome opponent to have. I cannot remember tsuande blitzing him, but manga instead isnt slow although kakashi is obviously faster. Kakashi's only hope in this fight is kamui and since the Op said they know about each others abilities sasuke should be able to come up with a counter, like flying away therefore its harder for kakashi to aim, like against deidora. Lets not forget that sasuke had info on amaterasu and with this devised a strategy to not only evade it but use it to aid his own technique; kirin

Hebi Sasuke is a better sharingan user than current Kakashi? Absolutely not. Hebi Sasuke lacks MS. Something which Kakashi has.
Yes sasuke is the better sharigan user than kakashi and you seem to forget that there is difference between the sharigan and the ms. Sasuke was able to turn oro's technique against him due to the sharigan. Something i doubt kakahsi can do. He was able to suppress the fox in naruto with the sharigan, something kakashi cannot do. He was able to control manda, something kakashi cannto do. He kept up with itachi's genjutsu something kakashi cannot do. He broke free from tsukuyomi with his shairgan, something kakashi cannot do. Sasuke is the better sharigan user, that should be clear.
 
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Yeah, I doubt Kakashi can break free from tsukuyomi, although, as he showed vs Itachi(granted only 30%, but still), he found a counter for it. His intelligence regarding the sharingan makes up for his lack of skill(in comparison to Itachi/Sasuke) with it.
 

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Manga posses problems to kakashi, even if kakashi can evade him, its still a troublesome opponent to have.
Troublesome, but not a huge problem.

I cannot remember tsuande blitzing him
Well she did, I'd consider reading the chapter again =p

Kakashi's only hope in this fight is kamui
Kamui would seal the win for him. However we all know he's much more than just Kamui.

and if since the Op said they know about each others abilities sasuke should be able to come up with a counter, like flyer away therefore its harder for kakashi to aim, like against deidora.
First of all, even if you have knowledge on Kamui doesn;t mean you can always counter it. Second of all.

Now you could argue that when he used it on Deidara, he "missed" and only got Deidara's arm. However, the only reason he missed was stated blatantly by Kakashi himself. He was unable to control the size and location of the barrier limiting the area of the jutsu.


Since that time, Kakashi no longer has that problem. Kakashi is no longer hindered by these things. He was able to activate his MS instantaneously to blast away the Susano'o arrow sent at him by Sasuke, that too at very close range. That clearly shows his ability to warp things near instantly. Let's not forget that this is the same arrow which caught Danzo, too and would've killed him had he not had Izanagi, which effectively kept him immortal.


Also, also, he warped away a missile sent at Choji by Asura Path, when he was himself half buried in rubble. That tells you about his focus and accuracy with Kamui, getting a moving projectile so perfectly when he was at the verge of death himself.

In other words, Hebi Sasuke has no chance to dodge Kamui.

Lets not forget that sasuke had info on amaterasu and with this devised a strategy to not only evade it but use it to aid his own technique; kirin
Doesn't matter. Kakashi has a brain comparable to that of Shikimaru;s, so hebi Sasuke aint going to outsmart him anytime soon. I'd also like to point out Itachi let Sasuke achieve a lot of them feats.


Yes sasuke is the better sharigan user than kakashi and you seem to forget that there is difference between the sharigan and the ms.
No I don't. If you aint a skilled sharingan user you aint going to be awakening the MS. Only the most talented of Uchiha manage to do such a thing.
Sasuke was able to turn oro's technique against him due to the sharigan. Something i doubt kakahsi can do.
Just because you doubt something doesn't mean he can;t.

He kept up with itachi's genjutsu something kakashi cannot do. He broke free from tsukuyomi with his shairgan, something kakashi cannot do. Sasuke is the better sharigan user, that should be clear.
I hope you realise Itachi let him win. Also, there is nothing to suggest current Kakashi can't do that now (now that he has MS) he should have a stronger resistance to it.

But since you're using points like that....

Deidara has experience in fighting high level Sharingan users. He immediately acknowledged that Kakashi is using an advanced Doujutsu comparable to Itachi's..

Kakashi absorbed Deidara's explosion (something which would have destroyed the entire forest)

etc etc you get the idea

To awaken the MS despite being an Uchiha is remarkable. Now before you decide to shrug it off and say "of thats ms not sharingan" I'd like to point out Kamui IS a sharingan teq.

So you saying Hebi Sasuke is a better sharingan user than Kakashi is baseless. Kakashi has MS. Hebi Sasuke doesn;t.

Now maybe if you said better sharingan user excluding MS moves you might have a case.

Kakashi takes this
 

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You call THIS a comparisation?
Current Kakashi > mangekyou Sasuke as well, the only reason he did'nt beat tendo pain was because he did'nt just warp his head away ( wich he easily could've, as he has become accurate enough with the technique to warp both a nail and a missile away ).
 
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