Current Kakashi vs all Edos

[BenjerminGaye]

Prove it.



Actually, its speculation on your part in saying that he can. As so far, he's been free falling with no signs of flying Susanoo in sight.

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Unlike sauce and Naruto who only have yin and yang respectively he got a bit of both as he clearly said.

I speculated nothing. He kept it active so Sakura would jump and attack after him. While using kamui on kaguya's ash bone. U speculated that he's out (despite both ms still being active) based on him not reawakening ps.

As it stands now, he is falling down without even using PS to fly back up, which signifies that he is out of chakra.

despite him using techniques after being so called "out of chakra"

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

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Unlike sauce and Naruto who only have yin and yang respectively he got a bit of both as he clearly said.

Kakashi said my eyes are stronger, he never said anything about having more chakra. Kakashi does not have either Ying nor Yang, what does Madara have to do with this.

I speculated nothing. He kept it active so Sakura would jump and attack after him. While using kamui on kaguya's ash bone. U speculated that he's out (despite both ms still being active) based on him not reawakening ps.
despite him using techniques after being so called "out of chakra"

MS is obviously still active, he's not just going to loose it. However fact remains, he does not have enough chakra to re-active PS, this will only be proven in two days. As of now, all we can really do is speculate.

 

[JCW]

Did everyone forget that he has limited stamina..limited chakra...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi said my eyes are stronger

FALSE. He said my eyes are also stronger. Meaning his eyes aren't the only thing improved upon by the rikudo chakra.

he never said anything about having more chakra.

Doesn't have to. Especially since war kakashi doesn't have the chakra capacity to create susanoo (let alone ps) on his own.

Kakashi does not have either Ying nor Yang, what does Madara have to do with this.

FALSE AGAIN. Madara clearly explains what rikudo chakra does. Increasing naruto's base abilities and giving him so6p senjutsu while giving sasuke rinnegan a further/stronger form of his original eyes. Kakashi flat out says he gained the yin properties (stronger ms, and the use of his MS abilities in things other than his eyes) while ps would be an example of yang.

MS is obviously still active

You claimed he was out thus ms shouldn't be active, and he shouldn't have had the ability to kamui kaguya's portal. Don't bullsh!t me.

he's not just going to loose it.

If he's truly out of chakra (not to mention the eyes themselves(in his special case) are chakra based) yes he is.

However fact remains,

nope that's your opinion based on nothing.

he does not have enough chakra to re-active PS,

Proof? And b4 you say it him free falling isn't proof this.

will only be proven in two days. As of now, all we can really do is speculate.

not really since he still used chakra taxing techs despite being "out of chakra" according to you.

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Fck your font.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

FALSE. He said my eyes are also stronger. Meaning his eyes aren't the only thing improved upon by the rikudo chakra.

That's just your interpretation of his words and further speculation on if he actually meant more chakra.

Doesn't have to. Especially since war kakashi doesn't have the chakra capacity to create susanoo (let alone ps) on his own. FALSE AGAIN. Madara clearly explains what rikudo chakra does. Increasing naruto's base abilities and giving him so6p senjutsu while giving sasuke rinnegan a further/stronger form of his original eyes. Kakashi flat out says he gained the yin properties (stronger ms, and the use of his MS abilities in things other than his eyes) while ps would be an example of yang.

Yes he does, if its for a very short amount of time, and it was, he only had it up for like 30 seconds. None of this advances your point, which was that he gained more chakra, he obviously got stronger, which is the only thing you are proving right now.

You claimed he was out thus ms shouldn't be active, and he shouldn't have had the ability to kamui kaguya's portal. Don't bullsh!t me.

He can't deactivate Sharingan, only when Obitos "soul" leaves his body will his temporary Sharingan be gone. Why should he not have the ability to Kamui Kaguyas portal? It was not even large.

If

he's truly out of chakra (not to mention the eyes themselves(in his special case) are chakra based) yes he is.

Not as long as Obito is in him.

nope that's your opinion based on nothing.
Proof? And b4 you say it him free falling isn't proof this.
not really since he still used chakra taxing techs despite being "out of chakra" according to you.

Yes it is, the fact that he has not used anything to save himself is proof enough. He only used one Kamui, and it was after he used it that he was out of chakra.

 

[super yang]

Nagato still solos

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That's just your interpretation of his words and further speculation on if he actually meant more chakra.

So wait? You don't know what the word "also" means?

al·so
ˈôlsō/Submit
adverb
in addition; too.

Yes he does,

Not at all. If 5 kamui's put him on the floor he isn't pulling out a perfect susanno.

if its for a very short amount of time, and it was, he only had it up for like 30 seconds.

more speculating and uncertainty from you I see. Anyways you know not how long he maintained it. Thirty seconds is your baseless guesstimate. Givin all the sentences everyone took, (not to mention him explaining the final plan) and executing the plan. It's well over your baseless guess.

None of this advances your point, which was that he gained more chakra, he obviously got stronger, which is the only thing you are proving right now.

So gaining someone's chakra increases your strength but not your chakra.... so Dan made tsunade stronger? Interesting. How about when kurama gave chakra to kakashi? Kakashi said hus chakra levels went up by a factor of three. But according to you that's incorrect. Bro either your trolling or you don't really know what you're talking about.

He can't deactivate Sharingan,

If he's out of chakra like YOU said. It deactivates automatically.

only when Obitos "soul" leaves his body will his temporary Sharingan be gone.

More speculation.

Why should he not have the ability to Kamui Kaguyas portal? It was not even large.

Hmm I don't know. .. because you claimed he's out of chakra?

Not as long as Obito is in him.

do you have proof that Obito is still in him? Is Dan still in tsunade?

Yes it is, the fact that he has not used anything to save himself is proof enough.

It really isn't. He was "free falling" since kaguya hit his susanno with ashbones. Yet not only did he he keep his damaged susanoo active for sakura's sake, he used kamui to make himself intangible and phase though the ashbones, he used rikudo enhanced raikiri to rip through kaguya's arm (while still phasing) and used kamui on kaguya's portal.THEN when kaguya tried escaping he stopped maintaining susanoo so Sakura can fall and hit kaguya.

He only used one Kamui, and it was after he used it that he was out of chakra.

If he's out of chakra why hasn't his MS disappeared? Lmaooooooooo.

 

[Unorthodox]

edos wins this

 

[Selan]

Kamui Shuriken spam GG. And the denial from people about Kakashi's new powers is ridiculous.

 

[genii96]

Lmao,kakashi gets negged. Only two or three edos here are needed tbh

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

So wait? You don't know what the word "also" means?

al·so
ˈôlsō/Submit
adverb
in addition; too.

Wait so you don't know what interpretation means?

a particular adaptation or version of a work, method, or style

"FALSE. He said my eyes are also stronger. Meaning his eyes aren't the only thing improved upon by the rikudo chakra."

Not at all. If 5 kamui's put him on the floor he isn't pulling out a perfect susanno.

Do you want me to show you everything he has done in the war? Trust me, you don't want to be proven as wrong as you are right now.

more speculating and uncertainty from you I see. Anyways you know not how long he maintained it. Thirty seconds is your baseless guesstimate. Givin all the sentences everyone took, (not to mention him explaining the final plan) and executing the plan. It's well over your baseless guess.

Just as much specualtion as saying that he gained more chakra.......actually far less, since I actually have proof, wile you dont. A few panels with little dialogue is no more then 30 seconds, I could show you instances where entire pages where only a second long.

So gaining someone's chakra increases your strength but not your chakra.... so Dan made tsunade stronger? Interesting. How about when kurama gave chakra to kakashi? Kakashi said hus chakra levels went up by a factor of three. But according to you that's incorrect. Bro either your trolling or you don't really know what you're talking about.

Tell me, does Senjutsu give you more chakra?

If he's out of chakra like YOU said. It deactivates automatically.

Wrong.

More speculation

Nope, Obito clearly said it was a temporary power.

Hmm I don't know. .. because you claimed he's out of chakra?

I claimed he was out of chakra after using Kamui.

do you have proof that Obito is still in him? Is Dan still in tsunade?

Dan left Tsunade after he gave her some chakra. We know Obito has not left yet because Kakashi still has Sharingan.

It really isn't. He was "free falling" since kaguya hit his susanno with ashbones. Yet not only did he he keep his damaged susanoo active for sakura's sake, he used kamui to make himself intangible and phase though the ashbones, he used rikudo enhanced raikiri to rip through kaguya's arm (while still phasing) and used kamui on kaguya's portal.THEN when kaguya tried escaping he stopped maintaining susanoo so Sakura can fall and hit kaguya.

Wrong again. Susanoo was destroyed, he left a little glob of Susanoo for Sakura, which was gone once she went in for the punch, which was soon after Kakashi used Kamui on the dimension. At which point he was out of chakra.

If he's out of chakra why hasn't his MS disappeared? Lmaooooooooo.

Don't be ignorant, it only makes you look bad, not me.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Wait so you don't know what interpretation means?

a particular adaptation or version of a work, method, or style

"FALSE. He said my eyes are also stronger. Meaning his eyes aren't the only thing improved upon by the rikudo chakra."

please, tell me your interpretation. Since the word also just flew over your head.

Do you want me to show you everything he has done in the war? Trust me, you don't want to be proven as wrong as you are right now.

roughly 8 raikiri's(give or take variants), 5 kamui's, 2 clones, and a earth wall. I know full well. It's not enough to pull out a perfect susanno. Especially since susanoo is a manifestation of the users chakra, and the most chakra costing tech of the double Mongekyou. Itachi who used 3 ama's and one Tsukiyomi(along with various other techs) could only pull out a complete susanno b4 the pain stress and chakra drain killed him.

Just as much specualtion as saying that he gained more chakra.......actually far less, since I actually have proof, wile you dont. A few panels with little dialogue is no more then 30 seconds, I could show you instances where entire pages where only a second long.

it's well over 30. He maintained it since chapter b4 last. And I grantee those instances contain little to 0 dialogue. Where as I have a chapters worth And some change.

Tell me, does Senjutsu give you more chakra?

Naturally. You're using natural chakra in place of your own.

Wrong.

So instead of providing a reason why. .. you're just gonna say no.

Nope, Obito clearly said it was a temporary power.

You have no proof that obito's soul is still in his body that's why it's speculation.

I claimed he was out of chakra after using Kamui.

switching claims now. Let me show you what you claimed.

Having Rikido chakra does not increase his chakra capacity. As it stands now, he is falling down without even using PS to fly back up, which signifies that he is out of chakra.

You claimed him falling=out of chakra.
He used three chakra taxing techs while falling (and maintained susanoo) which negates your claim. Honestly that right there should be the end of the discussion.

Dan left Tsunade after he gave her some chakra. We know Obito has not left yet because Kakashi still has Sharingan.

base less.

Wrong again. Susanoo was destroyed, he left a little glob of Susanoo for Sakura

says susanoo was destroyed despite Sakura still being in susanno...

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which was gone once she went in for the punch, which was soon after Kakashi used Kamui on the dimension

False yet again since it's still there.

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At which point he was out of chakra.

not your original claim and you have nothing to back up this claim.

Don't be ignorant, it only makes you look bad, not me.

So you can't answer the question. If he's out of chakra ms will disappear. Fact. Ms still being there=he still has chakra.
This is my last post to you. You can't prove he's out of chakra and based on his actions he isn't.

 

[Polarbearfrost]

Edo madara alone slaps Kakashi silly

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Edo madara alone slaps Kakashi silly

This guy is a comedian.

 

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No he doesn't. But yeah... Kakashi can't win this. No single person can win this.

You gone mad?

Edo Madara is on completely different level

Edo Madara rivals rSasuke and jNaruto in powers

 

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This guy is a comedian.

he's not

EDo Madara Anihilates Kakashi news power from obito

 

[lelerskates]

You gone mad?

Edo Madara is on completely different level

Edo Madara rivals rSasuke and jNaruto in powers

No. You've gone stupid. Current Naruto and Sasuke make edo Madara fodder considering that they were damaging Jin Madara and were making him run. Current Kakashi is keeping up with Current Naruto and Sasuke against Kaguya. It's obvious you don't have common sense and are nothing but a Madara fanboy. Get off his nuts and stop being bias or nobody will take your posts seriously.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

please, tell me your interpretation. Since the word also just flew over your head.

For example, the sage chakra allows him to hurt Kaguya, and also increases the strength of his eyes. Just as possible as your baseless assumption.

roughly 8 raikiri's(give or take variants), 5 kamui's, 2 clones, and a earth wall. I know full well. It's not enough to pull out a perfect susanno. Especially since susanoo is a manifestation of the users chakra, and the most chakra costing tech of the double Mongekyou. Itachi who used 3 ama's and one Tsukiyomi(along with various other techs) could only pull out a complete susanno b4 the pain stress and chakra drain killed him.

Have you forgotten him actually sustaining his eyes for the duration of the war is chakra taxing? He used 5 Kamuis, before, just two would completely drain all chakra, he used 8 ( give or take according to you) Raikiri Varients, while his limit was 4 before that. He had Sharingan activated during the war for a longer period of time then he had Sharingan activated through all of Part 1 combined. He made two clones, which each cut his chakra in half, his chakra pool literally increased by like x10 times. He is most certainly capable of keeping up Perfect Susanoo for at least a minute or two with his War Arc chakra, Madara was capable of using PS for hours upon hours on end, using PS for like two minutes with some other jutsu here and there is completely reasonable with his war arc chakra.

it's well over 30. He maintained it since chapter b4 last. And I grantee those instances contain little to 0 dialogue. Where as I have a chapters worth And some change.

He used it for like five seconds in the previous chapter, literally all he did was snag Sakura from a very fast arm, and then Sasuke and Naruto said two second phrases each.

Naturally. You're using natural chakra in place of your own.

It does not boost your original reserves, that's the point.

So instead of providing a reason why. .. you're just gonna say no.

More or less discussed in other segments.

You have no proof that obito's soul is still in his body that's why it's speculation.

What do you not understand about temporary ? Do you think Kakashi would just get eyes and randomly loose them? No, the only reason he has them in the first place is because Obito basically entered his body.

switching claims now. Let me show you what you claimed.



You claimed him falling=out of chakra.
He used three chakra taxing techs while falling (and maintained susanoo) which negates your claim. Honestly that right there should be the end of the discussion.

Did you not see, the "as it stands now" part? Do you know what that indicates? As of the most current showing, which is him free falling after using Kamui. He only used one chakra taxing Jutsu and sustained a glob of Susanoo for a little.

base less.

Don't say something when you don't know what you are talking about. The base of he argument is literally in the claim you replied to with this.

says susanoo was destroyed despite Sakura still being in susanno...

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Do you not see that Sakura is not inside Susanoo anymore? It was dispersing right when she went in for the punch no was completely gone once she hit Kaguya.

False yet again since it's still there.

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Nope, its completely gone once she punches Kaguya.

not your original claim and you have nothing to back up this claim.

Yes it was my original claim, and I have the last panel to back it up. There is nothing that suggest he has anymore chakra when he is free falling and not using PS so the benefit of the doubt goes to me, just like how if a character gets hit by a strong attack but is not shown for the rest of the chapter, you cannot say he tanked the attack, but yet you are trying to do just that.

So you can't answer the question. If he's out of chakra ms will disappear. Fact. Ms still being there=he still has chakra.
This is my last post to you. You can't prove he's out of chakra and based on his actions he isn't.

Wrong.

 

[Blackdeath667]

so its current kakashi vs all tailed beast minus 8 and 9 tails

edo hokages
edo past kages

edo MADARA

edo akatsuki

as well as other edo jounin level and kage level edos????


kakashi fans face the fact that kakashi loses

 

[BenjerminGaye]

For example, the sage chakra allows him to hurt Kaguya, and also increases the strength of his eyes. Just as possible as your baseless assumption.

That would be the case if he already attacked her at that point but he didn't. So he can't be referring to an attack that didn't happen.

Have you forgotten him actually sustaining his eyes for the duration of the war is chakra taxing?

Itachi with shit chakra sustained his eyes at nearly all times, not to mention him sustaining it for extended periods of time was something he pulled since early part 2.

He used 5 Kamuis, before, just two would completely drain all chakra

false. He pulled 3 during Kazekage rescue arc. And still had chakra left over.

he used 8 ( give or take according to you) Raikiri Varients, while his limit was 4 before that

False again. That was his part 1 limit. He pulled 6 during Hidan vs kakazu. And 5 variants vs pain.

He had Sharingan activated during the war for a longer period of time then he had Sharingan activated through all of Part 1 combined.

He held sharingan for the duration of a full day against naruto and sakura. It's not hard for him.

He made two clones, which each cut his chakra in half

chakra=/= stamina. Exver 20 shadow clones against Zabuza despite being nearly out. Given what he used the clones for (one raikiri chain then dispelling it) it wasn't taxing.

his chakra pool literally increased by like x10 times

But it didn't. Do I have to explain chakra basics to you as well?

He is most certainly capable of keeping up Perfect Susanoo for at least a minute or two with his War Arc chakra, Madara was capable of using PS for hours upon hours on end, using PS for like two minutes with some other jutsu here and there is completely reasonable with his war arc chakra.

given the size of madara's techs and raw chakra prowess ( it was compared to kurama by kurama himself) itsunade not surprising to see him do the things he does. And I love how you're changing claims yet again. Going from 30 seconds to 2 minutes. You can't even hold your own argument, constantly changing it to try and seem right.

He used it for like five seconds in the previous chapter, literally all he did was snag Sakura from a very fast arm, and then Sasuke and Naruto said two second phrases each.

Saves sakura, sauce and noodles comment on it. He uses kamui Shuriken, sakura comments on him possessing both eyes, noodles comments again then he flies to sauce and noodles. Explains the plan to naruto and sauce. Naruto shares banter with kaguya, then they fly to Kaguya and execute the plan. That's well over 30 seconds.

It does not boost your original reserves, that's the point.

it does. You're using 3 sources of energy for chakra, instead of 2.

More or less discussed in other segments.

No you'd side step it or say "wrong" without explaining why.

What do you not understand about temporary ? Do you think Kakashi would just get eyes and randomly loose them? No, the only reason he has them in the first place is because Obito basically entered his body.

the power is temporary, that doesn't mean obito's soul is inside of him. Just like Dan with tsunade.

Did you not see, the "as it stands now" part? Do you know what that indicates? As of the most current showing, which is him free falling after using Kamui. He only used one chakra taxing Jutsu and sustained a glob of Susanoo for a little.

He's been free falling since the ash bone attack, his state hasn't changed since then.

Don't say something when you don't know what you are talking about. The base of he argument is literally in the claim you replied to with this.

what? U claimed obito' s soul is still inside kakashi due to kakashi's dual ms. U can't prove it (cuz then Dan would still be in tsunade, or itachi in sasuke) so you start talking nonsense.

Do you not see that Sakura is not inside Susanoo anymore? It was dispersing right when she went in for the punch no was completely gone once she hit Kaguya.

No sakura was still inside susanno in that scan. She just out later on (hence the tap/jump sfx) when she goes to punch kaguya.

Nope, its completely gone once she punches Kaguya.

Prove it. It's still visible when she jumped off and the camera angle doesn't show it afterwards.

Yes it was my original claim, and I have the last panel to back it up. There is nothing that suggest he has anymore chakra when he is free falling and not using PS so the benefit of the doubt goes to me

it doesn't go to you since him not using ps=/=him being out of chakra. But what is true is the fact that a visible ms= him containing chakra. So it goes to me not you since the the bolded claim is false.

, just like how if a character gets hit by a strong attack but is not shown for the rest of the chapter, you cannot say he tanked the attack, but yet you are trying to do just that.

bad parallel. A better parallel would be claiming sauce is out of chakra cus his ps got destroyed and him deciding not to use it anymore. I.e. his current situation, since the chapter b4 last.

Wrong.

Thats all you can say when you've been proven incorrect on multiple accounts.