Current Kakashi is still Kage level

[Haloguy2710]

Agreed. Very good thread.

 

[Bogard]

Zabuza shat on sharinganless kakashi.:|

Kakashi was out of shape back then, much weaker than the current. Not to mention he underestimated him. Besides, he actually had weaker lings to protect which reduced his attacking capability. When the mist cleared, Kakashi fodderized him

Agreed. Very good thread.

Thanks

His speed combined with clones fooled Itachi and Pain. That pretty much covers Sharingan's advantages. Unfortunately, I have to spread reps around before giving you for this wonderful thread.​

You're welcome bro

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Yes, kakashi is still Kage level. But he can beat only Tsunade among the current gokage
Kakashi is low kage tier. We shouldn't overrate him without sharingan

 

[RedRobin]

Kakashi is overall the smartest person alive in NV right now.

 

[Bogard]

Yes, kakashi is still Kage level. But he can beat only Tsunade among the current gokage
Kakashi is low kage tier. We shouldn't overrate him without sharingan

I disagree. He actually has stronger portrayal than Mei as well. Mei couldn't defeat Black Zetsu during an entire day fighting him with jounins back-up, yet same Black Zetsu said someone on Kakashi's level could kill him instantly. But obviously i'm not saying he is god U_U

 

[Joseph Gomes]

I disagree. He actually has stronger portrayal than Mei as well. Mei couldn't defeat Black Zetsu during an entire day fighting him with jounins back-up, yet same Black Zetsu said someone on Kakashi's level could kill him instantly. But obviously i'm not saying he is god U_U

Mei has lots of good feats using multiple Kekkei genkai techniques while kakashi has no kekkei genkai. Mei's offensive techniques are also lethal. And don't take anybody's comments seriously in the manga, kishimoto is the king of hyperbole and retcon

 

[V h o]

I agree. Although I can't see current Kakashi beating some kages, mainly Gaara, Ay, and Ohnoki.

 

[ToshiZO]

He can still take Tsunade and possibly Mei, so yea he is certainly still very skilled.

 

[ShiroT]

Re-read the end of the thread U_U

his biggest tech was lightning blade which he cant do and no his tai drops because he is now less good at it

 

[ShiroT]

He can still take Tsunade and possibly Mei, so yea he is certainly still very skilled.

how does he kill them?

 

[ToshiZO]

how does he kill them?

pinpoint accuracy. For a man who just pinned a falling Obitos hand with a kunai while doing two other things simultaneously, finding an opening against someone like Tsunade is not difficult. Sometimes power is not everything, skill can overcome strength. And that is the case with this match up.

 

[romeboii]

his biggest tech was lightning blade which he cant do and no his tai drops because he is now less good at it

I doubt he still has the same weaknesses he had when he was younger look at Ay and bee they have no sharingan and they do just fine look at naruto's speed we have seen faster characters with no sharingan deal with the speed he has experience with it now he did not have before plus he has variations where he does not even have to move

 

[King Of Pop]

nice effort but i disagree. without sharingan i consider him high jounin

 

[Kamui Sama]

Of course he is kage level U_U

 

[Zen Uchiha]

but all those times Kakashi had the sharingan XD

 

[kimb]

Kakashi without his sharingan is not Kage level. And if you honestly believe he is without his sharingan, you're being an idiot.. There's no sugar coating it. You're using personal character anecdotes in replacement of manga facts and feats. Another thing, how are you going to pull facts out of your ass claiming that Kakashi can move at speeds of nanoseconds? Thats 1/1,000,000,000's of a secone (1 billionth). 60 nanoseconds is faster than the speed of light. The only time Kakashi could be power scaled without the sharingan is before Obito died, he basically had the sharingan for over 80% of his life.

And yes highly capable, and no he's not useless, he has proved himself useful this chapter by saving Sakura and Obito, but he Kage level without the sharingan, hell no. Blatant stupidity just aggravates me.

 

[ToshiZO]

Kakashi without his sharingan is not Kage level. And if you honestly believe he is without his sharingan, you're being an idiot.. There's no sugar coating it. You're using personal character anecdotes in replacement of manga facts and feats. Another thing, how are you going to pull facts out of your ass claiming that Kakashi can move at speeds of nanoseconds? Thats 1/1,000,000,000's of a secone (1 billionth). 60 nanoseconds is faster than the speed of light. The only time Kakashi could be power scaled without the sharingan is before Obito died, he basically had the sharingan for over 80% of his life.

And yes highly capable, and no he's not useless, he has proved himself useful this chapter by saving Sakura and Obito, but he Kage level without the sharingan, hell no. Blatant stupidity just aggravates me.

I don't know about self made levels.....but he would be able to take Tsunade who is a kage.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Thank you. People just band wagon the sharingan and believe Kakashi is fodder. This dude taught an Uchiha how to use the Sharingan. That's pathetic as fk lmfao but anyway, Kakashi has always been this good even when he was 13.

 

[Koro]

Current Kakashi is Batman, so he's in the top 10 by default.

 

[kimb]

I don't know about self made levels.....but he would be able to take Tsunade who is a kage.

Please tell me how current Kakashi beats Byakugou Tsunade? His chidori's accuracy which is his ace in the hole, has been reduced immensely, and now he has to depend on these 10/1,000 seen, supposed 1,000 jutsu of his. I don't even like Tsunade like that, but she solos current Kakashi.