Current Jubi is probably stronger than the previous

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I wonder how the OP will take it once Minato gets depowered when plot requires for him to return the Yin Chakra back to Kurama Lol

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

What I interpret from T Bogard's post:
The Juubi the Sage faced was composed of 9 infant/undeveloped bijuu. The Juubi, although incomplete, that Obito became one with consisted of the chakra of 7 fully developed bijuu and some chakra of 2.

 

[7PathSage]

Title says it all. I believe the current Juubi is stronger than the one RS faced. Illogical you say if Obito claims he is incomplete? Not at all, but i'll try to keep it short:

- RS created 9 small Bijuus from the original Jubi(we see that on

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). So like natural humans, Bijuus have grown and developed themselves time after time, centuries after centuries to become what they became.

Their chakra and power-level greatly increased in comparison, so it's highly probable that the current Juubi is stronger than the previous one despite the fact he doesn't have all of current Kyubi's and Hachibi's chakra

Thoughts?

They DID look like child versions of themselves. Makes sense, good call! Its hard to confirm tho because we limited knowledge as to what happened after they were separated and how strong they may have been. We would need more history on when they were separated to when they were sealed and/or when the first Jin lost control.

Chronicling the lives of the tailed beasts as youngins till current NVT would make an amazing fan fic!!!

 

[GrayParadise]

I wonder how the OP will take it once Minato gets depowered by returning the Yin Chakra back to Kurama Lol

Wont make a difference. Minato fans will do the sensible thing and use his prime condition during Versus threads, like any sensible fan would do.

The exact same thing with Madara fans. They use his Edo for in battle threads all the time, because that's his strongest presence, his prime. So it's reasonable that Minato would do the same.

 

[Bogard]

It's possible that that could be the case. Not sure if it is, though. But there's nothing really to go against it. The final form of the second Juubi could be superior to the originals.

Nah dont think so ,we"ll see...plausible tho xd

That actually sounds quite plausible, but this will be mere speculation on your part until we gain more information about Rikudō Sennin's backstory.

But this is possible, but I highly doubt kishi would think this hard.

Thanks guy. Not saying it's true for sure, but logically it's definitely possible

Really though, we can't possibly make this assumption.

Assuming that logic one could also make the case that by making the tailled beast born babies they could have been born with a summed up power inferior to that of the original Juubi.

I'll make a thread explaining this.

Oh really? Looking forward for your thread then

What I interpret from T Bogard's post:
The Juubi the Sage faced was composed of 9 infant/undeveloped bijuu. The Juubi, although incomplete, that Obito became one with consisted of the chakra of 7 fully developed bijuu and some chakra of 2.

Exactly

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Wont make a difference. Instinct fans will do the sensible thing and use his prime condition during Versus threads, like any sensible fan would do.

The exact same thing with Madara fans. They use his Edo for in battle threads all the time, because that's his strongest presence, his prime. So it's reasonable that Minato would do the same.

Sensible fanboys? quite the oxymoron Lol

 

[Transcendence]

It's possible, but I doubt Kishi would take that route.

 

[AlphaScythian]

most likely not, but its a plausible excuse if kishi would want to hype this juubi

 

[Bogard]

Wont make a difference. Minato fans will do the sensible thing and use his prime condition during Versus threads, like any sensible fan would do.

The exact same thing with Madara fans. They use his Edo for in battle threads all the time, because that's his strongest presence, his prime. So it's reasonable that Minato would do the same.

Please don't reply to the troll. You're better than that. You only feed him, although he would still continue Lol

 

[SasukeNeverSoloed]

GOD of NB disapproves of this threadU_U

/your thread has been captured and solo'edU_U

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

I can see the logic in what you are saying, although it's debatable. Indeed the Nine Tailed Beasts appeared as 'cubs' when Rikudo Sennin Seperated the Juubis Chakra, although it's worth noting that there is nothing that states they actually had less Chakra. It's plausable that their child-like appearances were reflections of their child-like consciousnesses as they had just been created and Rikudo Sennin appeared their Father Figure.

Good thread. Am perplexed as to why all these threads keep becoming slanging matches tho, i'm keeping out of it..

 

[Bogard]

I can see the logic in what you are saying, although it's debatable. Indeed the Nine Tailed Beasts appeared as 'cubs' when Rikudo Sennin Seperated the Juubis Chakra, although it's worth noting that there is nothing that states they actually had less Chakra. It's plausable that their child-like appearances were reflections of their child-like consciousnesses as they had just been created and Rikudo Sennin appeared their Father Figure.

Good thread. Am perplexed as to why all these threads keep becoming slanging matches tho, i'm keeping out of it..

Thanks for your honest opinion. Concerning the chakra, while it's true that nothing clearly shows they didn't have the same quantity i just assume that through their development while growing, they could have achieve more power, strength and with their size and growth influing in their stamina and chakra

Don't worry about others. Seems that their "god" of internet made them lose IQ especially when the supposed "god" always fail in his theorys Lol

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

GOD of NB disapproves of this threadU_U

/your thread has been captured and solo'edU_U

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and there is no 'God of NB'. Jheesh i personally bow to no one (Natural Born King here). I respect people who come with theories worth thinking about, regardless of whether or not i agree with them, but why troll the guys thread??

 

[Waltz]

So like natural humans, Bijuus have grown and developed themselves time after time, centuries after centuries to become what they became.

Their chakra and power-level greatly increased in comparison, so it's highly probable that the current Juubi is stronger than the previous one despite the fact he doesn't have all of current Kyubi's and Hachibi's chakra

Thoughts?

The Bijū are manifestations of specific portions of the Jūbi's chakra and those levels of chakra remain eternally constant as it is their composition. Banbutsu Sōzō: Yōton's objective is to stimulate vitality within the forms, thus making them 'alive' and thus initiating growth/

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. The Hachibi has already highlighted the superiority of the from that the Jūbi faced the Sennin as opposed to the current one and is obvious....

It's lacking it's largest portion of chakra. ​

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Thanks for your honest opinion. Concerning the chakra, while it's true that nothing clearly shows they didn't have the same quantity i just assume that through their development while growing, they could have achieve more power, strength and with their size and growth influing in their stamina and chakra

Don't worry about others. Seems that their "god" of internet made them lose IQ especially when the supposed "god" always fail in his theorys Lol

Reading comprehension: Post# 44 was referring to himself. Lol

Read harder next time

 

[Booker]

You mean the guy with multiple troll accounts which all theorys have been proven wrong so far beside the obvious ones? Lol

Thank You

Most of his theories were ripoffs/obvious, and the whole troll accounts thing really is a black mark on his character.

 

[ImNoOne]

Current Juubi is weaker than Original

People are saying that now that he has became the Jubii Jin, Obito is as strong as the So6P. But this is axiomatically wrong and proven by the Manga.

Firstly we have to analyze what happens when a Jinshuriki is striped of his Bijuu chakra. As the last of it's chakra leaves the Jin's body the Jin dies. This happen to all the 7 Jins that Akatsuki captured, it also happened to Kushina and it also happened to the Hachibbi Jins when 3rd Raikage sealed the 8 Tails after a rampage.

It's an undeniable manga fact that when bijuus leave their Jins, the Jin dies instantly.

Now we know that Rikudo divided Juubi's chakra amongst the Bijuus. But we also know for a fact that after doing so, HE DID NOT DIE. This means by manga logic and facts that he did not divided all his Juubi chakra amongst the Juubi's. If he had the conversation he had with the Bijuus could have never taken place. Further more we know that he lived with the Bijuus for quite some time, at least enough time for them to love him.

So the only obvious conclusion is that what the Bijuus took from the Juubi via the Sage was not the chakra but the personality. That is what was fully divided amongst them. The Sage split the Juubi's personality into 9 and gave it to the Bijuus. The remaining chakra that he conserved to himself makes the differential between current (Juubi + Nine Tails + 8 Tails) - Original Juubi.... NEGATIVE!

PS: I'll make another thread pertaining the why's and the implications of this.

 

[Bogard]

The Bijū are manifestations of specific portions of the Jūbi's chakra and those levels of chakra remain eternally constant as it is their composition. Banbutsu Sōzō: Yōton's objective is to stimulate vitality within the forms, thus making them 'alive' and thus initiating growth/

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. The Hachibi has already highlighted the superiority of the from that the Jūbi faced the Sennin as opposed to the current one and is obvious....

It's lacking it's largest portion of chakra. ​

I'm not that convince concerning the chakra point, but nice point concerning Hachibi's statement. It indeed kind of prove the original Jubi was still stronger, but don't forget he was talking about his final form, so what if the current one is in his final form as well? Would the comparison still stand?

Thank You

Most of his theories were ripoffs/obvious, and the whole troll accounts thing really is a black mark on his character.

No problem. It's just the truth Lol

 

[Booker]

OT: While I don't see it happening, I agree that it's possible.

P.S. Somebody in this thread keeps posting because he's butthurt Bogard won't reply to him... Hmmmm.

 

[itachi4real]

Re: Current Juubi is weaker than Original

Yea yea yea we know....