[Question] current Gray vs current Natsu

[Dãrth1]

Yeah I do think about gray being half demon and half human

This would be cool, having a 4 dragon slayers and 1 devil slayer on the guild, now, WHERE IS THE STUPIDGODSLAYER

 

[seeid salih]

saying base natsu loses to gray is ridiculous... I mean he didn't use flame lightning mode on the twin dragons and he beat them both and gray had it rough with rufus... I doubt gray could take out one of the four dragons on a one on one battle...

 

[Silent Soul]

LFD Natsu >> Gray >> Base Natsu (for now).

I smell new power up for Gray. From the beginning he was portrayed as someone around same level as Natsu, but Natsu clearly surpassed him with Lighting Flame mode. I think that Grey is supposed to be equal with Dragon Slayers so i think that he in near future will get new power up (maybe curse), because i think that he is half Demon (If my prediction that Silver is his father is true).

Gray>>Base Natsu is really one the most absurd things I've seen in a while. Current Gray lacks feats while Base Natsu has some of the best feats since the time skip. I do give you that FT power levels are crap so it's hard to really tell.

LFD Natsu>>>Base Natsu>>Gray

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Gray>>Base Natsu is really one the most absurd things I've seen in a while. Current Gray lacks feats while Base Natsu has some of the best feats since the time skip. I do give you that FT power levels are crap so it's hard to really tell.

LFD Natsu>>>Base Natsu>>Gray

Like you said FT power level don't use 1% of logic, and as you see they don't even train. So i will explain my thoughts about Gray >> Base Natsu.

1. Back in the first chapters of manga, Gray was able to beat mostly of the fodders with just physical strength, unlike Natsu who needed his magic, this even was pointed out by Lucy. Now, you will probably say, but that was back in the first chapters. Yes, it was, but as i said, they don't train and all of them should grow equally in their strength.

2. Back in the Tower of Heaven arc, Natsu lost to Fukuro (or was it draw? i can't remember on top of my head). After that Gray pop in and beat Fukuro, but Fukuro this time was alot stronger since he absorbed Natsu. Again it was way back then, but as i said expect that Natsu god LFD, they with mostly other character grow equally in power.

3. And finaly fight with Grimoire Hearth. Gray vs Ultear and Natsu vs Zancrow, even thought these two fight have 0 logic, they both win their fights, the only difference is that Gray was able to took down Ultear, who is significantly more powerfull than Zancrow and in more or less same manner.

 

[Dãrth1]

Like you said FT power level don't use 1% of logic, and as you see they don't even train. So i will explain my thoughts about Gray >> Base Natsu.

1. Back in the first chapters of manga, Gray was able to beat mostly of the fodders with just physical strength, unlike Natsu who needed his magic, this even was pointed out by Lucy. Now, you will probably say, but that was back in the first chapters. Yes, it was, but as i said, they don't train and all of them should grow equally in their strength.

2. Back in the Tower of Heaven arc, Natsu lost to Fukuro (or was it draw? i can't remember on top of my head). After that Gray pop in and beat Fukuro, but Fukuro this time was alot stronger since he absorbed Natsu. Again it was way back then, but as i said expect that Natsu god LFD, they with mostly other character grow equally in power.

3. And finaly fight with Grimoire Hearth. Gray vs Ultear and Natsu vs Zancrow, even thought these two fight have 0 logic, they both win their fights, the only difference is that Gray was able to took down Ultear, who is significantly more powerfull than Zancrow and in more or less same manner.

Still, Gray don't have Dragon Force or LDFM, so he needs Devil slayer powers to be able to compete with Natsu, cause they were supposed to be rivals, its not like Sasuke and Naruto, but its similar

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Still, Gray don't have Dragon Force or LDFM, so he needs Devil slayer powers to be able to compete with Natsu, cause they were supposed to be rivals, its not like Sasuke and Naruto, but its similar

Natsu don't have Dragon Force. He was able to enter in twice, but both times with help. He ate lacrima in Tower of Heaven arc and Jellal gave him flame of rebuke. He can't enter it on his own.

I didn't say that Gray is equal to Natsu in his LFD form, i'm talking about Natsu without that form.

 

[Dãrth1]

Natsu don't have Dragon Force. He was able to enter in twice, but both times with help. He ate lacrima in Tower of Heaven arc and Jellal gave him flame of rebuke. He can't enter it on his own.

I didn't say that Gray is equal to Natsu in his LFD form, i'm talking about Natsu without that form.

Dude, if he needs power, he need to master DF, as Sting and Rogue did, or he isn't gonna be a complete dragon slayer

 

[skydragonslayer]

if natsu takes the fight seriously, he'll win, he's a beast