current gaara vs current sasuke

[genii96]

Madara used the same Susano'o when he was owning the Kage, don't know why you can't comprehend that. Lower part shows the makings around it, so the seal was complete. Lightening the sand allowed Gaara sand to get in Susano'o and pull Madara out. Other than that Gaara has done nothing to Susano'o. No one else sliced the same amount of the tree in one swing as Sasuke, but what sword feat does Madara stage 3 Susano'o have? Obviously I'm not taking about Perfect Susano'o so don't bring that up. Those five sword couldn't get through Gaara sand, one slice of Sasuke's would've killed Gaara their. Onoki survived the Meteor with no armour.

okay, a v3 susanoo of a base madara,and a v3 susanoo of a sage mode madara would not be the same in power,it is not so hard to understand. The size might be the same,but the power will be different. When sasuke used juugo's cursed seal to power his susanoo,it didnt get bigger,but it would obviously get stronger.

The markings at the lower end were only horizontal,wheras the upper end was both horizontal and vertical,the lower end wasnt complete

how does making sand lighter help in getting it into a susanoo?,the size of the sand remains the same,it dosent get smaller,it just got lighter. If it could breach susanoo when it was normal it would breach it when it was lighter the only difference is lack of powr but increased speed. When he lightened Ay,he got a boost in speed,but lost his power,and as such onoki had to stay on his shoulder to make him heavy again when he was about to hit madara,Ay didnt get smaller,the island didnt get smaller,neither did the sand.

Sasuke sliced that tree because he had a bigger sword than the rest of the shinobis, the roots have no durability,shinobis cut the roots as well,sasuke's susanoo sword is bigger than a normal ninja's sword obviously,so it it can cut a bigger root compared to normal ninjas.

Gaara wasnt even looking when he blocked those susanoos,if sasuke were to attack he would simply make a bigger defence to block it. You keep ignoring the fact that sasuke is at least 4x stronger thanhe should be,he is boosted by a yinyang chakra from naruto,further increased by juugo's cursed seal. Hinata deflected a juubi's tail with the chakra she got,fodder shinobis were actually doing damage to the juubi. This was before yinyang cloak came in.

Your reason for saying he would've sliced through that defence was because of sasuke cutting a large wooden root,i am pretty sure those 5 susanoos would cut that root if they attacked together anyway.

Unless you are saying sasuke was not affected by the chakra he got from naruto or juugo.

Onoki was in the air when the meteor hit the ground,so he didnt take the hit,yet was almost killed. Gaara,madara and muu were on the ground when it hit,gaara got back up,the other two died.

 

[slimreaper]

okay, a v3 susanoo of a base madara,and a v3 susanoo of a sage mode madara would not be the same in power,it is not so hard to understand. The size might be the same,but the power will be different. When sasuke used juugo's cursed seal to power his susanoo,it didnt get bigger,but it would obviously get stronger.

The markings at the lower end were only horizontal,wheras the upper end was both horizontal and vertical,the lower end wasnt complete

how does making sand lighter help in getting it into a susanoo?,the size of the sand remains the same,it dosent get smaller,it just got lighter. If it could breach susanoo when it was normal it would breach it when it was lighter the only difference is lack of powr but increased speed. When he lightened Ay,he got a boost in speed,but lost his power,and as such onoki had to stay on his shoulder to make him heavy again when he was about to hit madara,Ay didnt get smaller,the island didnt get smaller,neither did the sand.

Sasuke sliced that tree because he had a bigger sword than the rest of the shinobis, the roots have no durability,shinobis cut the roots as well,sasuke's susanoo sword is bigger than a normal ninja's sword obviously,so it it can cut a bigger root compared to normal ninjas.

Gaara wasnt even looking when he blocked those susanoos,if sasuke were to attack he would simply make a bigger defence to block it. You keep ignoring the fact that sasuke is at least 4x stronger thanhe should be,he is boosted by a yinyang chakra from naruto,further increased by juugo's cursed seal. Hinata deflected a juubi's tail with the chakra she got,fodder shinobis were actually doing damage to the juubi. This was before yinyang cloak came in.

Your reason for saying he would've sliced through that defence was because of sasuke cutting a large wooden root,i am pretty sure those 5 susanoos would cut that root if they attacked together anyway.

Unless you are saying sasuke was not affected by the chakra he got from naruto or juugo.

Onoki was in the air when the meteor hit the ground,so he didnt take the hit,yet was almost killed. Gaara,madara and muu were on the ground when it hit,gaara got back up,the other two died.

not that it matters

sasuke can go above that level so clearly he can duplicate that power on his own.

 

[genii96]

not that it matters

sasuke can go above that level so clearly he can duplicate that power on his own.

wrong,even if he can get the same size as that,the power will be much weaker. At least 4x weaker. The size of madara's v3 susanoo in base and sage mode are the same in size,but not power.

 

[slimreaper]

wrong,even if he can get the same size as that,the power will be much weaker. At least 4x weaker. The size of madara's v3 susanoo in base and sage mode are the same in size,but not power.

are you suggesting that susanoo was equal to PS? and why did sasuke make no mention of a power boost? pretty much everyone mentioned it when they first got the cloak.


I knew this would happen from the second sasuke got that chakra. people would use it to try to nullify his accomplishments

 

[genii96]

are you suggesting that susanoo was equal to PS? and why did sasuke make no mention of a power boost? pretty much everyone mentioned it when they first got the cloak.


I knew this would happen from the second sasuke got that chakra. people would use it to try to nullify his accomplishments

so because sasuke didnt mention it,it didnt happen?,when juugo used his cursed mark on sasuke's susanoo,did sasuke mention anything about it?,yet that was the only reason he could hurt obito.

It was said repeatedly that naruto's chakra gives a boost to everyone who gets it,why should sasuke different?

His power will be dramatically boosted just like everone elses,kakashi's kamui increased to the point of casually using it on a bijuu,when he almost passed out while using it on a naruto clone. Kamui is an ms tech and so is susanoo,so whay shouldnt sasuke be affected?.

Sasuke never displayed this level of power before the cloak,so why should you assume he had it?,and ignore everything else?.

Sasuke received naruto's cloak,and as a result his power will be amplified several times,he also received juugo's cursed seal power which will further amplify his powers. That is a fact.

 

[slimreaper]

so because sasuke didnt mention it,it didnt happen?,when juugo used his cursed mark on sasuke's susanoo,did sasuke mention anything about it?,yet that was the only reason he could hurt obito.

It was said repeatedly that naruto's chakra gives a boost to everyone who gets it,why should sasuke different?

His power will be dramatically boosted just like everone elses,kakashi's kamui increased to the point of casually using it on a bijuu,when he almost passed out while using it on a naruto clone. Kamui is an ms tech and so is susanoo,so whay shouldnt sasuke be affected?.

Sasuke never displayed this level of power before the cloak,so why should you assume he had it?,and ignore everything else?.

Sasuke received naruto's cloak,and as a result his power will be amplified several times,he also received juugo's cursed seal power which will further amplify his powers. That is a fact.

sasuke never displayed this power because he was never trying before. its clear he starts really trying here

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where he asks if naruto is done. clearly he hadn't been trying. he hasn't even hit his ceiling yet

 

[genii96]

sasuke never displayed this power because he was never trying before. its clear he starts really trying here

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where he asks if naruto is done. clearly he hadn't been trying. he hasn't even hit his ceiling yet

he only asked naruto if he had given up already and that he himself was heading out. Even if you were right and thats what he meant,he said that after he had recieved the cloak,thus his powers would have been amplified by that time,so that would simply have meant that he was now utilizing the enhancements the cloak gave him to the max,thus having a powerful susanoo.

You can't keep denying it,the cloak boosted his power to a great degree as well as juugo's own cursed seal. The proof is right there in the manga. Even if a normal sasuke's susanoo is the same size as it is now,it will be at least 5x weaker in terms of power,there is no argument about that.

 

[Brooks]

No point in arguing with someone like @genii96....he would still believe Gaara is stronger even if Sasuke can destroy Continents or Manipulate Time.​

 

[Netferarri]

Sasuke takes this due to his speed, he will be able to get Gaara before he even knows it. ​

 

[KingHashirama]

#GaarAin'tNoJinchuriki

 

[Champ]

okay, a v3 susanoo of a base madara,and a v3 susanoo of a sage mode madara would not be the same in power,it is not so hard to understand. The size might be the same,but the power will be different. When sasuke used juugo's cursed seal to power his susanoo,it didnt get bigger,but it would obviously get stronger.

The markings at the lower end were only horizontal,wheras the upper end was both horizontal and vertical,the lower end wasnt complete

how does making sand lighter help in getting it into a susanoo?,the size of the sand remains the same,it dosent get smaller,it just got lighter. If it could breach susanoo when it was normal it would breach it when it was lighter the only difference is lack of powr but increased speed. When he lightened Ay,he got a boost in speed,but lost his power,and as such onoki had to stay on his shoulder to make him heavy again when he was about to hit madara,Ay didnt get smaller,the island didnt get smaller,neither did the sand.

Sasuke sliced that tree because he had a bigger sword than the rest of the shinobis, the roots have no durability,shinobis cut the roots as well,sasuke's susanoo sword is bigger than a normal ninja's sword obviously,so it it can cut a bigger root compared to normal ninjas.

Gaara wasnt even looking when he blocked those susanoos,if sasuke were to attack he would simply make a bigger defence to block it. You keep ignoring the fact that sasuke is at least 4x stronger thanhe should be,he is boosted by a yinyang chakra from naruto,further increased by juugo's cursed seal. Hinata deflected a juubi's tail with the chakra she got,fodder shinobis were actually doing damage to the juubi. This was before yinyang cloak came in.

Your reason for saying he would've sliced through that defence was because of sasuke cutting a large wooden root,i am pretty sure those 5 susanoos would cut that root if they attacked together anyway.

Unless you are saying sasuke was not affected by the chakra he got from naruto or juugo.

Onoki was in the air when the meteor hit the ground,so he didnt take the hit,yet was almost killed. Gaara,madara and muu were on the ground when it hit,gaara got back up,the other two died.

I actually thought you were smarter than this Genii, smh. Madara Susano'o that got crushed by the Biju's was the same imperfect one he used against the Kage. Sasuke with Jugo in his Susano'o only added senjutsu to help harm Obito since that's his only weakness, nothing else. The lower part of the sand shield had the curse seal marking so it was complete, it got destroyed. You're grasping at straws. If Gaara didn't need Onoki then why did Kishi make panels with him telling Gaara to attack cause he made his sand lighter? Can't believe you're stooping so low to say a team effort by Onoki and Gaara, was just Gaara alone doing. That's like me saying Sasuke Final Susano'o sliced through Obito on his own. Obviously, Gaara wasn't looking he has a automatic defense with sand have you forgotten this? Sasuke doesn't need the Kyuubi chakra to make a full body Susano'o, he shown this when Obito slammed him in to ground destroying the cloak and Susano'o, then seconds later encased Susano'o around the Kyuubi with the cloak gone. Onoki was right under the Meteor when both of them hit, yet he survived, so did Dodai, Naruto clone.

 

[genii96]

No point in arguing with someone like @genii96....he would still believe Gaara is stronger even if Sasuke can destroy Continents or Manipulate Time.​

the funny thing about you sasuke fans,is,you are so quick to go on *****ing about sasuke's new powers,ignoring that he is being boosted to over 4x his normal power. Apparently sasuke is not affected by the chakra boost like every other shinobi and dojutsu users were. You call me a fanboy and claim there is no point debating,yet i am the one bringing manga scans to backup what i say,while all you do is fap and insult.

I actually thought you were smarter than this Genii, smh. Madara Susano'o that got crushed by the Biju's was the same imperfect one he used against the Kage. Sasuke with Jugo in his Susano'o only added senjutsu to help harm Obito since that's his only weakness, nothing else. The lower part of the sand shield had the curse seal marking so it was complete, it got destroyed. You're grasping at straws. If Gaara didn't need Onoki then why did Kishi make panels with him telling Gaara to attack cause he made his sand lighter? Can't believe you're stooping so low to say a team effort by Onoki and Gaara, was just Gaara alone doing. That's like me saying Sasuke Final Susano'o sliced through Obito on his own. Obviously, Gaara wasn't looking he has a automatic defense with sand have you forgotten this? Sasuke doesn't need the Kyuubi chakra to make a full body Susano'o, he shown this when Obito slammed him in to ground destroying the cloak and Susano'o, then seconds later encased Susano'o around the Kyuubi with the cloak gone. Onoki was right under the Meteor when both of them hit, yet he survived, so did Dodai, Naruto clone.

just because it is the same size dosent mean it's the same power,sage mode increases your current powers,that includes your susanoo. And sasuke was already pumped with yinyang chakra,so he is at least 4x stronger then normal. Senjutsu amplifies your powers,why do you keep ignoring that?,when the cursed seal was added to susanoo,why wouldnt it anplify it's powers? Is sm and base naruto the same power level?,is sm hashirama and base hashirama the same power level?,why would a senjutsu susanoo of sasuke be of the same power level as a normal sasuke susanoo?,is sasuke suddenly different from every other shinobi?,not to be affected by these chakra boosts?,really?.

I'l say this one las time,the markings at the lower end had just one line accross the circle,the markings at the upper end had 2 lines,vertically and horizontally,thus it wasnt fully completed nd it was used on madara,not his susanoo.

Gaara was waiting for naruto to enter sm and form the frs,so he was planning to attack anyway,onoki making his sand lighter simply made his sand reach madara quickly,probably to get madara before he realized their plan,restraining a susanoo with lightened sand is a lot harder than doing the same with normal sand.

If onoki stayed where he was,then he would have been right under the two meteors when they hit the ground,he was found a distance away. Dodai and naruto ran away from the meteor long before it hit the ground

 

[ReverseZero12]

Sasuke takes this. Gaara at most is on the same level as Mei. I don't know why people on the base overrate gaara and put him on the same level as sasuke.

 

[Champ]

just because it is the same size dosent mean it's the same power,sage mode increases your current powers,that includes your susanoo. And sasuke was already pumped with yinyang chakra,so he is at least 4x stronger then normal. Senjutsu amplifies your powers,why do you keep ignoring that?,when the cursed seal was added to susanoo,why wouldnt it anplify it's powers? Is sm and base naruto the same power level?,is sm hashirama and base hashirama the same power level?,why would a senjutsu susanoo of sasuke be of the same power level as a normal sasuke susanoo?,is sasuke suddenly different from every other shinobi?,not to be affected by these chakra boosts?,really?.

I'l say this one las time,the markings at the lower end had just one line accross the circle,the markings at the upper end had 2 lines,vertically and horizontally,thus it wasnt fully completed nd it was used on madara,not his susanoo.

Gaara was waiting for naruto to enter sm and form the frs,so he was planning to attack anyway,onoki making his sand lighter simply made his sand reach madara quickly,probably to get madara before he realized their plan,restraining a susanoo with lightened sand is a lot harder than doing the same with normal sand.

If onoki stayed where he was,then he would have been right under the two meteors when they hit the ground,he was found a distance away. Dodai and naruto ran away from the meteor long before it hit the ground

It literally is the same size as the one he used against the Kage. There's actually no proof Madara added senjutsu to his Susano'o. When Hashirama used Sage mode against Madara he summoned Shinsuusenju which is enormous. If Madara used Sage mode to enhance his Susano'o why is it the same size he used against the Kage? At minimum if Senjutsu enhanced Susano'o it should of made it bigger than Perfect Susano'o. Take Jugo senjutsu away from Sasuke's Susano'o he can't harm Obito. That's it. Manga showed me the seal marking were around the lower part at the time Madara destroys the sand pyramid. Manga showed me Gaara need Onoki help to pull Madara out of Susano'o, nothing you say will change that. Doesn't matter where Onoki was found he tanked the Meteor with no automatic defense.

 

[EternalFlame]

Sasuke comfortably wins this.

 

[Brooks]

the funny thing about you sasuke fans,is,you are so quick to go on *****ing about sasuke's new powers,ignoring that he is being boosted to over 4x his normal power. Apparently sasuke is not affected by the chakra boost like every other shinobi and dojutsu users were. You call me a fanboy and claim there is no point debating,yet i am the one bringing manga scans to backup what i say,while all

Fap? that's coming from someone who actually believes Gaara can take on any form of Sasuke? there is no need to get so emotional bro.​

 

[genii96]

Fap? that's coming from someone who actually believes Gaara can take on any form of Sasuke? there is no need to get so emotional bro.​

emotional?nah,and the sasuke i am arguing for is the one without naruto's chakra,you know the one that is at least 4-6x weaker than currently,and without susanoo legs?

 

[slimreaper]

emotional?nah,and the sasuke i am arguing for is the one without naruto's chakra,you know the one that is at least 4-6x weaker than currently,and without susanoo legs?

so the only 2 EMS users in history both use susanoo with legs and you're attributing it to the ninetails? yeah ok keep believing that

 

[genii96]

so the only 2 EMS users in history both use susanoo with legs and you're attributing it to the ninetails? yeah ok keep believing that

one used it without getting any chakra,the other couldnt until he was pumped up with chakra. Oh and even if sasuke does have a legged susanoo normally which ofcourse none of u can prove aside from using madara as a comparison,the power of his susanoo-yinyang chakra and senjutsu chakra=at least7-10x weaker than now. Or are you still gonna deny the power boost aspect?

 

[Shura]

Not debatable. Sasuke wins rather easily.​