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The Match-Up: Edo Madara Uchiha VS Ftg Naruto Uzumaki
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The Quick: I read a Thread today where people were saying that the current Edo Madara (with "Perfect Susano'o) is unbeatable by anyone alive currently. I disagree!
Maybe "currently"... but I believe if Naruto has the power-ups that he could obtain during this war, that he could BEAT Edo Madara. So I leave it to NBase to decide...
PLEASE READ BELOW, MOST IMPORTANTLY THE POWER-UP ASSUMPTIONS.
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The Power-up Assumptions:
1) Naruto can now merge "completely" with the Karuma.
2) Naruto learned how to perform Minato's FTG technique.
3) Naruto knows how to use his seal on Edo Madara.
(Note: the fight would be one sided if Naruto didn't know how to use ANY Uzumaki Seals. The only ones I'll give him is the ones used to seal Karuma, but they are POWERFUL.)
*) Naruto does NOT have power/chakra from all the other Tailed Beasts. Some people may try to give it to him but this is unconfirmed.
The Theory: Naruto can AND WILL beat any shinobi with his father's technique, even Edo Madara!
(BONUS) The Ugly: Below are some of the most important attributes for both Shinobi. More importantly for Naruto, since 3 major powerups assumed in this Thread don't even exist (yet).
Read the comparisons below and post your opinion of the victor.
1) Edo Madara Attributes:
1) Madara is Edo so he needs to be sealed
2) Madara has a "Perfect Susano'o"
3) Madara has Rinnegan, and adversly EMS/MS/Sharigan techniques
4) Madara has Hashirama cells & Techniques & Healing
Special Madara "Notes": (Stolen from KellsFresh, yea I'm a lazy bastard)
1) He can use hashiramas wood to suppress tailed beasts.
2) Madara's susanoo looks like a giant monster compared to sasuke and itachi's.
3) Perfect Susano'o protected him from oonokis + tsunades combo attack, and broke him free from gaaras sand.
4) From Hashirama, he can heal automatically, 25 susano's, flower world, mokton bunshin.
5) He could use his sharingan to take control of the tailed beasts.
6) Madara was literally watchin from a mountain while 5 kages were fighting for their lives with clones.
7) Anyone forgot about his Gigantic Meotors? I haven't.
8) Tobi was so scared when he saw this coffin
2) Naruto “FTG” Attributes:
STRENGTH: (Do I honestly need to comment here?!?) SM;KM; “Plus Eye” Mode Combination; Full Karuma merge/transformation (not perfected YET)
POWER LEVEL (“PLUS EYE”): Complete merge with Karuma; Or in human form “Plus Eyes” combination of Kuubi Eye and Sage Eye (which was able to resist Nagato’s Rinnegan with chakra rod at close range. Incredible)
SPEED: Bijuu Chakra Speed > “A” (Note: & FTG Instant teleportation. Nuff Said)
QUICKNESS: I feel it is important to note here that Naruto’s quickness in performing jutsus is unmatched by any shinobi, b/c his most powerful techniques would not require hand signs eventually, adding to his “quickness”.
FTG. Rasengan (eventually). Sealing Techniques. Healing.)
REFLEXES: Naruto’s chakra capacity would allow him to be a shinobi with one of the quickest reflexes alive, if he is able to apply this enormous chakra reserve towards “vivifying” his entire body/nervous system, i.e. an extremely fast body flicker.
INTELLIGENCE: Increases b/c of the ability to learn information directly from the experiences of the 100,000,000 shadow clones he is now able to make with Karuma/Sage/Uzumaki Chakra. Simular to how he was able to learn Rasengan extremely quickly.
HEALING: Uzumaki/Karuma/Sage Chakra… Instant/No hand signs… Incredible possibilities here!
SENSING: Sage Mode negative emotions (unique, if anything else)
SUMMONS: The Legendary Toad Boss Gamabunta of Mount Myoboku. Colaboration jutsus Taod Oil Flame Bullet. Toad Gun. Food Cart Destroyer Technique. Nuff Said.
JUTSU ABILITIES:
WIND NATURE = Naruto still has room for improvement here in Wind Nature related attacks. He doesn’t even use wind chakra with his kunai like Asuma Sensei taught him yet! Also extremely effective against penetrating the defense of the only jutsu that has comparible speed to himself, Lightning Armor, as seen with Minato VS “A”. Wind > Lightning.
RASENGAN VARIATIONS = Regular, Big, Ultra, Mini, Wind, Multi, Nature, TBB… with the ability to create MORE VARIATIONS in the future.
PERFECT JINCHURRIKI = Helps him fight/defend against users of his worst Jutsu, GENJUTSU.
FROG KATA = Highly advanced form of Taijutsu
FTG L1 = S/T teleportation mixed with his speed in Kuubi Mode
FTG L2 = S/T teleportation with Rasengans/Wind Shurikens/TBB
FUINJUTSU = Sealing ability similar to Hashirama, to seal/control Tailed Beasts. The power of this is shown in the ability of the Sage of Six Paths to seal ALL the tailed beasts inside himself (1st Juubi Jinchurikki) and the fact that the Uzumaki Clan and Land of Whirlpools in general was destroyed because of the fear of this one technique.
-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage
:scorps:
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The Quick: I read a Thread today where people were saying that the current Edo Madara (with "Perfect Susano'o) is unbeatable by anyone alive currently. I disagree!
Maybe "currently"... but I believe if Naruto has the power-ups that he could obtain during this war, that he could BEAT Edo Madara. So I leave it to NBase to decide...
PLEASE READ BELOW, MOST IMPORTANTLY THE POWER-UP ASSUMPTIONS.
********************
The Power-up Assumptions:
1) Naruto can now merge "completely" with the Karuma.
2) Naruto learned how to perform Minato's FTG technique.
3) Naruto knows how to use his seal on Edo Madara.
(Note: the fight would be one sided if Naruto didn't know how to use ANY Uzumaki Seals. The only ones I'll give him is the ones used to seal Karuma, but they are POWERFUL.)
*) Naruto does NOT have power/chakra from all the other Tailed Beasts. Some people may try to give it to him but this is unconfirmed.
The Theory: Naruto can AND WILL beat any shinobi with his father's technique, even Edo Madara!
(BONUS) The Ugly: Below are some of the most important attributes for both Shinobi. More importantly for Naruto, since 3 major powerups assumed in this Thread don't even exist (yet).
Read the comparisons below and post your opinion of the victor.
1) Edo Madara Attributes:
1) Madara is Edo so he needs to be sealed
2) Madara has a "Perfect Susano'o"
3) Madara has Rinnegan, and adversly EMS/MS/Sharigan techniques
4) Madara has Hashirama cells & Techniques & Healing
Special Madara "Notes": (Stolen from KellsFresh, yea I'm a lazy bastard)
1) He can use hashiramas wood to suppress tailed beasts.
2) Madara's susanoo looks like a giant monster compared to sasuke and itachi's.
3) Perfect Susano'o protected him from oonokis + tsunades combo attack, and broke him free from gaaras sand.
4) From Hashirama, he can heal automatically, 25 susano's, flower world, mokton bunshin.
5) He could use his sharingan to take control of the tailed beasts.
6) Madara was literally watchin from a mountain while 5 kages were fighting for their lives with clones.
7) Anyone forgot about his Gigantic Meotors? I haven't.
8) Tobi was so scared when he saw this coffin
2) Naruto “FTG” Attributes:
STRENGTH: (Do I honestly need to comment here?!?) SM;KM; “Plus Eye” Mode Combination; Full Karuma merge/transformation (not perfected YET)
POWER LEVEL (“PLUS EYE”): Complete merge with Karuma; Or in human form “Plus Eyes” combination of Kuubi Eye and Sage Eye (which was able to resist Nagato’s Rinnegan with chakra rod at close range. Incredible)
SPEED: Bijuu Chakra Speed > “A” (Note: & FTG Instant teleportation. Nuff Said)
QUICKNESS: I feel it is important to note here that Naruto’s quickness in performing jutsus is unmatched by any shinobi, b/c his most powerful techniques would not require hand signs eventually, adding to his “quickness”.
FTG. Rasengan (eventually). Sealing Techniques. Healing.)
REFLEXES: Naruto’s chakra capacity would allow him to be a shinobi with one of the quickest reflexes alive, if he is able to apply this enormous chakra reserve towards “vivifying” his entire body/nervous system, i.e. an extremely fast body flicker.
INTELLIGENCE: Increases b/c of the ability to learn information directly from the experiences of the 100,000,000 shadow clones he is now able to make with Karuma/Sage/Uzumaki Chakra. Simular to how he was able to learn Rasengan extremely quickly.
HEALING: Uzumaki/Karuma/Sage Chakra… Instant/No hand signs… Incredible possibilities here!
SENSING: Sage Mode negative emotions (unique, if anything else)
SUMMONS: The Legendary Toad Boss Gamabunta of Mount Myoboku. Colaboration jutsus Taod Oil Flame Bullet. Toad Gun. Food Cart Destroyer Technique. Nuff Said.
JUTSU ABILITIES:
WIND NATURE = Naruto still has room for improvement here in Wind Nature related attacks. He doesn’t even use wind chakra with his kunai like Asuma Sensei taught him yet! Also extremely effective against penetrating the defense of the only jutsu that has comparible speed to himself, Lightning Armor, as seen with Minato VS “A”. Wind > Lightning.
RASENGAN VARIATIONS = Regular, Big, Ultra, Mini, Wind, Multi, Nature, TBB… with the ability to create MORE VARIATIONS in the future.
PERFECT JINCHURRIKI = Helps him fight/defend against users of his worst Jutsu, GENJUTSU.
FROG KATA = Highly advanced form of Taijutsu
FTG L1 = S/T teleportation mixed with his speed in Kuubi Mode
FTG L2 = S/T teleportation with Rasengans/Wind Shurikens/TBB
FUINJUTSU = Sealing ability similar to Hashirama, to seal/control Tailed Beasts. The power of this is shown in the ability of the Sage of Six Paths to seal ALL the tailed beasts inside himself (1st Juubi Jinchurikki) and the fact that the Uzumaki Clan and Land of Whirlpools in general was destroyed because of the fear of this one technique.
-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage
:scorps: