[VS] Current Double Rinnegan SM Madara vs Obito's chakra powered DMS Kakashi

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Current Double Rinnegan SM Madara

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location:Current manga
restrictions: noone. Both are fresh with full power chakra
intel: manga
mindest: to kill
distance:100 meters

Scenario 1: Double Rinnegan SM Madara vs Obito chakra powered DMS Kakashi[no Rikudou chakra ]

Scenario 2: Double Rinnegan SM Madara with Gedo Mazou vs Obito chakra powered DMS Kakashi[no Rikudou chakra]

Scenario 3: Double Rinnegan SM Madara +Gedo Mazou vs Obito chakra powered DMS Kakashi[Rikudou chakra]

Scenario 4: Double Rinnegan SM Madara + GM +Buddha vs Obito's chakra powered DMS Kakashi[Rikudou chakra]

Imo, Madara wins Scenario 1, Scenario 2,
Kakashi wins Scenario 3
Scenario 4 -> Tie

Decide and comment who will win
 
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Madara gets beaten in every scenario where Kakashi has Rikudo Chakra. Without the chakra Kakashi gets raped.
 

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Madara gets beaten in every scenario where Kakashi has Rikudo Chakra. Without the chakra Kakashi gets raped.

I agree with that, but what about Fourth Scenario couldn't access to buddha along with Gedo Mazou combined with PS would be not enough ?

Don't forget Madara got Hashirama's Sage mode also and is restored to full chakra.
 

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I agree with that, but what about Fourth Scenario couldn't access to buddha along with Gedo Mazou combined with PS would be not enough ?

Don't forget Madara got Hashirama's Sage mode also and is restored to full chakra.

Lol. Madara being able to use the Mazo, Shinsuusenju, and Perfect Susanoo all at the same time is fanfiction. No reason to believe he can maintain all those at once.
 

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Lol. Madara being able to use the Mazo, Shinsuusenju, and Perfect Susanoo all at the same time is fanfiction. No reason to believe he can maintain all those at once.

I know but these are conditions for fourth Scenario, so please reffer to his scenario, considering all abiltiies I gave to Madara, call it fanfic or no
 

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Madara can't counter kamui in any scenario
I think limbo would be the biggest trouble to kakashi ,but it can't kill kakashi with one punch ,can it? So even if kakashi has no Intel ,if he got punched by invisible object ,he would get aware and use PS or intangibility
I think this is reasonable counter for kakashi to limbo
 

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I know but these are conditions for fourth Scenario, so please reffer to his scenario, considering all abiltiies I gave to Madara, call it fanfic or no

Kakashi still wins then. His Susanoo is buffed by a portion of Rikudo Senjutsu chakra, so its much stronger than Madara's. Shinsuusenju isn't going to cover that gap, and Gedo Mazo is a non factor. Not to mention Kamui Shuriken would warp parts of them away anyway. It'd warp half the Mazo's body away, and it'd take off chunks of PS and SS.
 

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Kakashi still wins then. His Susanoo is buffed by a portion of Rikudo Senjutsu chakra, so its much stronger than Madara's. Shinsuusenju isn't going to cover that gap, and Gedo Mazo is a non factor. Not to mention Kamui Shuriken would warp parts of them away anyway. It'd warp half the Mazo's body away, and it'd take off chunks of PS and SS.

sounds resonable ok, I can agree. However I disagree with Rikudou Senjutsu chakra. It was stated Sasuke has Rikudou chakra while Naruto has Rikudou Senjutsu chakra. Are they the same of different ? I am confused
 

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sounds resonable ok, I can agree. However I disagree with Rikudou Senjutsu chakra. It was stated Sasuke has Rikudou chakra while Naruto has Rikudou Senjutsu chakra. Are they the same of different ? I am confused

They both have Rikudo's Chakra, but Naruto can use Rikudo Senjutsu while Sasuke doesn't. Obito stole Rikudo chakra from Madara while he was in Rikudo Senjutsu Mode, and was able to form the Gudo Dama again. Obito transferred that power over to Kakashi. When he used it, his Raikiri became black, just how Sasuke's Chidori became black, and they were able to injure Madara/Kaguya, who can only be injured by Senjutsu or Physical Damage from Taijutsu.

So I'm inclined to believe that Rikudo's Chakra is Senjutsu, but Rikudo Senjutsu is a more refined mode using this chakra. To use it you do need all 9 Bijuu and Rikudo's Chakra, or just the Juubi, since it contains both Rikudo Chakra and the 9 Bijuu's chakra. Sasuke and Kakashi only have the chakra, that's why they don't have Naruto's abilities.
 

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Madara hides himself with Mayfly and lets Limbo rape Kakashi.
 

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They both have Rikudo's Chakra, but Naruto can use Rikudo Senjutsu while Sasuke doesn't. Obito stole Rikudo chakra from Madara while he was in Rikudo Senjutsu Mode, and was able to form the Gudo Dama again. Obito transferred that power over to Kakashi. When he used it, his Raikiri became black, just how Sasuke's Chidori became black, and they were able to injure Madara/Kaguya, who can only be injured by Senjutsu or Physical Damage from Taijutsu.

So I'm inclined to believe that Rikudo's Chakra is Senjutsu, but Rikudo Senjutsu is a more refined mode using this chakra. To use it you do need all 9 Bijuu and Rikudo's Chakra, or just the Juubi, since it contains both Rikudo Chakra and the 9 Bijuu's chakra. Sasuke and Kakashi only have the chakra, that's why they don't have Naruto's abilities.

ok, I got it, thanks for that nice and detailed explanation ;)
 

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Lol. Madara being able to use the Mazo, Shinsuusenju, and Perfect Susanoo all at the same time is fanfiction. No reason to believe he can maintain all those at once.

He can't. Perfect Susano'O is about the full extent of his Knead/Release output.​
 

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Current Madara is lying dead amidst all the previous kages and heroes of the world. Kakashi wins by default
 

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Madara wins, Kakashi hardly can't fight for long due to stamina, and he is certainly not killing this Madara before he runs out.
 

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Madara wins scenario 1&2, and loses scenario 3&4
 

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Kamui shits. Current Madara doesn't even have sm seeing as his Hashirama boob is gone.
 

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Kakashi can sense the limbo clones and maybe Kamui them, but what good does that do?

Anyways, kakashi wins.

Only jins can beat kakashi imo.
 

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Madara takes this, he's not clumsy enough to get caught in Kamui and is too fast.
 

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The fight is closer then people think but Kakashi should win
 
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