Curious Facts of the Invasion from Obito Uchiha toKonoha

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I will divide the topic into sections which are as follows:

1) Age of Obito
2) Obito Recovery Time
3) Achievements of Obito
4) Battle of Obito Experience

Obito Age

Previous Topic with Rejected Theory

First of all, I had previously published a similar thread where I put forward a theory about Obito's age but it was wrong wrong. Why?

Answer: Because Kishimoto was wrong in his Manga. Yes, Kishimoto was wrong not only in a vignette (panel) but in a whole chapter. Here are two options, either the Databook is wrong or the Manga. Depending on your choice we will get the age of Obito.

If the Databook is wrong, then all ages from most charecters are wrong and Obito would be 18 years old. If it is the manga that is wrong, then 2 whole chapters are the ones that are wrong and Obito would be 14 years old. In the previous thread I took as erroneous the Databook, but in this new theory which it is more certain will take as erroneous the Manga. If you like to read the previous topic, go ahead. It is in Spanish.


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Databook 4 gives us the age of Obito taking as a date on October 10 that is the birthday of Naruto. Obito's age is Exactly 17 years ago was the invasion of Konoha.

Obito in the war was 31 years old with 8 months and 17 years ago he was 14 years old with 8 months.

That's right, Obito was not 18 years old as I said before(and a lot say) but 14 years and 8 months almost 15 years. Now let's explain why the manga is wrong, I will mention some ages of ninjas when they graduated:

Gai 7 years
Asuma 9 years
Obito 9 years
Rin 9 years old
Kakashi 5 years
Kurenai 9 years
Ebisu 10 years

This information I found in the 4th databook. It is necessary to emphasize that these ninjas are of the same generation only that all they graduated in different times. The chapter of the manga that is wrong is 599 where we see the chunnin exams of Team Minato (Rin, Kakashi and Obito) Why is it wrong?

Answer: The chapter shows many inconsistencies with the databook for example, Kakashi graduated to chunin at age 6. That is, the chunin exams were when Kakashi was 6 years old, but as we know, Obito and Rin graduated from the academy at 9 so they can not be on the same chunnin exam as Kakashi since they should be in the academy. The same for the others. Ebisu who also appears in chunin manga exams graduates from the academy at 10 years and at 17 of chunnin. He also can not appear since it still had 4 years to be a gennin.

Check the whole chapter and see that everything is wrong.

Obito Recovery Time

I will explain an approximate amount of time Obito recovering until Rin's death. Both Rin, Obito and Kakashi are of the same age but have months of difference but not years. We already know that Obito was 14 years and 8 months old when I attacked Konoha. Now we will see when it was supposedly died. Obito died when he was 13 years old:

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From 13 years to 14 years with 8 months there is a lapse of 1 year and 8 months or 20 months. That is the maximum time that Obito could had been in recovery. We know that Minato was not yet a Hokage when she (Rin) died. We know that Kakashi was not yet Ambu when she died. We also know that Kakashi entered Ambu under the direct orders of the Hokage who was Minato.

Then, Rin first dies, then Minato becomes Hokage and then Kakashi becomes Ambu to monitor Kushina's pregnancy. Kushina had Naruto on October 10, Minato was Hokage before receiving the news that Kushina was pregnant, so she was pregnant as on January 10 because her pregnancy lasted 10 months for having Kurama. Minato was already Hokage in January. Then Kakashi becomes Ambu when Kushina was pregnant following this theory.

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Then it can be said that Obito had that time of recovery and practice with Madara. That is, from February (His Birthday) to December (Before Rin's death and Minato as Hokage) in a period of 10 months at most since Obitp's false death. This is a range, not an exact date. Judging by the hair of Obito spent more than 8 months recovering until the day he went to rescue Rin and that for obvious reasons is from February (Obito Birthday) to December (Date in which Minato was not yet Hokage)

Analyzing the data collected; 10 months of the Hokage Commandment of Minato where Rin had already died. 8 months of recovery from Obito before going to save Kakashi and Rin.

So Obito was in recovery and training for a year and a half at least and a year and 8 months maximum.

Conclusion:
Following the theory, Kakashi becomes Ambu after January. Obito Recovering between 18 months and 20 months.

Questions let me know, ask me to improve it.

Obito Achievements

Obito's achievements after Madara died and attacked the village were:

1.- Learn the Rikudou Jutsus. And the Forbidden Jutsus of the Uchiha and the Inyouton no Jutsu.
2.- Obtained his MS
3.- Killing all Ambu who attacked Rin and Kakashi
4.- Take Kurama out of Kushina causing a certain death in a short time
5.- Control Kurama and summon him showing large reserves of chakra.
6.- Touch Minato.
7.- Pass the Kushina's birth and Konoha's barriers undetected.
8.- Killing the Ambu under the direct command of the Sandaime
9.- Master his Kamui and his Senju body.
10.- Assassinate the ninjas who abducted to Rin with null difficulty.
11.- Incredible durability for Hashirama cells.

Experience in Battle

With what was explained previously Obito was a ninja of classification S at the age of14 years. A totally strong ninja at a young age and in a period of 16 - 20 months since his supposed death. His Mangekyo Sharingan ability took him to another level whether or not has experience. He was undoubtedly an extraordinary ninja with the power and experience to face the Hokage. It is clear that Oito of the war is better than the 14 years, but certainly the 14 year was superior to all living ninjas at that time according to my opinion (less against Minato), was a ninja of the last category without Place to doubt

His experience was very good. For he devised everything to achieve his goal. Although it turned out to be failure, it did something that many could not.
 

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Obito Achievements

Obito's achievements after Madara died and attacked the village were:

1.- Learn the Rikudou Jutsus. And the Forbidden Jutsus of the Uchiha and the Inyouton no Jutsu. -Some people doubt this, he didn't have the rinnegan or jyubi.
2.- Obtained his MS-Itachi got it during the same age
3.- Killing all Ambu who attacked Rin and Kakashi
4.- Take Kurama out of Kushina causing a certain death in a short time
5.- Control Kurama and summon him showing large reserves of chakra.
6.- Touch Minato.-A lot of people can touch minato
7.- Pass the Kushina's birth and Konoha's barriers undetected.-Simple kamui can do that
8.- Killing the Ambu under the direct command of the Sandaime
9.- Master his Kamui and his Senju body.-Barely used senju powers because he was Yin dominant
10.- Assassinate the ninjas who abducted to Rin with null difficulty.
11.- Incredible durability for Hashirama cells.

Just put some comments down and I'd like to see your response.
 

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Obito Achievements

Obito's achievements after Madara died and attacked the village were:

1.- Learn the Rikudou Jutsus. And the Forbidden Jutsus of the Uchiha and the Inyouton no Jutsu. -Some people doubt this, he didn't have the rinnegan or jyubi.
2.- Obtained his MS-Itachi got it during the same age
3.- Killing all Ambu who attacked Rin and Kakashi
4.- Take Kurama out of Kushina causing a certain death in a short time
5.- Control Kurama and summon him showing large reserves of chakra.
6.- Touch Minato.-A lot of people can touch minato
7.- Pass the Kushina's birth and Konoha's barriers undetected.-Simple kamui can do that
8.- Killing the Ambu under the direct command of the Sandaime
9.- Master his Kamui and his Senju body.-Barely used senju powers because he was Yin dominant
10.- Assassinate the ninjas who abducted to Rin with null difficulty.
11.- Incredible durability for Hashirama cells.

Just put some comments down and I'd like to see your response.
I think that's an achievement even though he used Kamui. Who else can utilize Kamui besides Obito and Kakashi
 

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Obito Achievements

Obito's achievements after Madara died and attacked the village were:

1.- Learn the Rikudou Jutsus. And the Forbidden Jutsus of the Uchiha and the Inyouton no Jutsu. -Some people doubt this, he didn't have the rinnegan or jyubi.
2.- Obtained his MS-Itachi got it during the same age
3.- Killing all Ambu who attacked Rin and Kakashi
4.- Take Kurama out of Kushina causing a certain death in a short time
5.- Control Kurama and summon him showing large reserves of chakra.
6.- Touch Minato.-A lot of people can touch minato
7.- Pass the Kushina's birth and Konoha's barriers undetected.-Simple kamui can do that
8.- Killing the Ambu under the direct command of the Sandaime
9.- Master his Kamui and his Senju body.-Barely used senju powers because he was Yin dominant
10.- Assassinate the ninjas who abducted to Rin with null difficulty.
11.- Incredible durability for Hashirama cells.

Just put some comments down and I'd like to see your response.
1.- There is a Chapter where Madara starts to explain and mentions all what he is going to teach him.
2.- So? Itachi could have massacred his clan at 13, but Obito at 14 was going to destroy the whole village including Uchihas.
6.- As far? Not Raikage, not Killer Bee.
7.- Yes, reason that Kamui is HAX.
9.- Mastered it, reasons he has to not use it. Not my problem. He used it in the war.
 

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1.- There is a Chapter where Madara starts to explain and mentions all what he is going to teach him.
I mean rikudou jutsu is just coffin seal and gedo powers and inyouton is just chakra receivers that came from the statue. It's just finesse talking. It's not anything that requires a rinnegan or jyubi considering that none of them has either of it.

2.- So? Itachi could have massacred his clan at 13, but Obito at 14 was going to destroy the whole village including Uchihas.
Is awakening MS really an accomplishment though? All he needs to do is become depress even more than before.
6.- As far? Not Raikage, not Killer Bee.
Bee has, well at least he cornered him. Madara caught him too and Kakashi can.
7.- Yes, reason that Kamui is HAX.
But having a hax eye isn't much of an accomplishment though right? It's how you use it.
9.- Mastered it, reasons he has to not use it. Not my problem. He used it in the war.
He had control over it, mastering it is a bit of a stretch considering that all he did was bind naruto with it for like a second. And after seeing naruto break wood dragon, why would a small thing like that do anything?
Yeah number 7. My bad for not being clear.
It's okay but how is awakening an impressive eye an achievement when all it takes is intense emotions?
Like Sasuke/Itachi's amatersu. Great, you awakened such a powerful eye that can virtually burn anything including a full chakra monster biju by just starring at it.
Some people like the 3rd Raikage have to use physical strength with the most powerful move just to redirect or survive one blast of the biju powers while getting destroyed if it was multiple ones. Then Ms users over here looks at the biju and it's defeated with hardly an effort.
 
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It's okay but how is awakening an impressive eye an achievement when all it takes is intense emotions?
Like Sasuke/Itachi's amatersu. Great, you awakened such a powerful eye that can virtually burn anything including a full chakra monster biju by just starring at it.
Some people like the 3rd Raikage have to use physical strength with the most powerful move just to redirect or survive one blast of the biju powers while getting destroyed if it was multiple ones. Then Ms users over here looks at the biju and it's defeated with hardly an effort.
It's a cheap achievement, but he put in the effort and went through with it even if it does seems effortless. Would Kevin Durant think him winning a ring with GS an achievement? To him yes but others will question.
 

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It's a cheap achievement, but he put in the effort and went through with it even if it does seems effortless. Would Kevin Durant think him winning a ring with GS an achievement? To him yes but others will question.
Kevin durant was also as vital as Steph Curry is to the team. Otherwise the Cavaliers would've won yet another game. So KD put in serious hardwork and even more so during the finals as suppose to a benchwarmer that happen to be on the Golden state team bragging about his success in winning against the Cavaliers. Op team.

So Sasuke worked a little bit during his 3 tomoe years, but training isn't what got him the Mangekyo, it was sitting down and listening to the truth that forced that Mangekyo in his eyes. So just by listening, Sasuke awakened an eye that can one-shot a perfect jinchuuriki with a single glance. I'm not hating any particular character her, I'm just trying to get people's opinions. Well certain people's opinions.
 

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Kevin durant was also as vital as Steph Curry is to the team. Otherwise the Cavaliers would've won yet another game. So KD put in serious hardwork and even more so during the finals as suppose to a benchwarmer that happen to be on the Golden state team bragging about his success in winning against the Cavaliers. Op team.

So Sasuke worked a little bit during his 3 tomoe years, but training isn't what got him the Mangekyo, it was sitting down and listening to the truth that forced that Mangekyo in his eyes. So just by listening, Sasuke awakened an eye that can one-shot a perfect jinchuuriki with a single glance. I'm not hating any particular character her, I'm just trying to get people's opinions. Well certain people's opinions.
To be honest, it's still pretty impressive if you tell people about it. It doesn't really matter on how they achieved it. If a person ask what's your achievement and he said passed through a barrier, that's pretty impressive knowing it should be heavily guarded.
 

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To be honest, it's still pretty impressive if you tell people about it. It doesn't really matter on how they achieved it. If a person ask what's your achievement and he said passed through a barrier, that's pretty impressive knowing it should be heavily guarded.
I don't even know how he took out those anbu guards, I think kishi gave him a pass on that one.
 
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