[Theory] Crackpot theory! Gremmy is the soul kings brain!

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Well, its a day ending with a Y. you know what that means. Its time for another crackpot theory or rant about Gremmy Thoumeaux! and today, a very special one! BOTH AT ONCE! On to the theory!


Basically, Gremmy is the soul kings brain. Heres a bunch of reasons why.

1, Why would the soul kings brain be around?: There are at least 3 pieces of the soul king running around, so i can easily believe that there are more we didn't realise where pieces. For instance, we didn't know Gerard was the heart until Askin said so.

2, Why would the Gremmy be a piece of the soul king?: Askin describes Pernida and Gerard as "Possessing unimaginable power". While this particular wording does more or less the opposite of applying to Gremmy, you must admit that he was about as Hax as is possible to get without just being omnipotent. His powers where FAR more impressive than the average sternritter, and i cant see Yhwach giving Gremmy those abilities and others something worthless like the Iron or the Roar. In addition, nowhere in the fight is it directly stated that Gremmy was given his powers by Yhwach, though that doesn't prove much.

3, Why would he be specifically the brain?: Gremmy's real body is a brain in a jar. No explanations are given as to why Gremmy is a brain in a jar, and it has always confused me why. Both Pernida and the Mimihagi take the form of arms, so it isn't unreasonable to assume that the soul kings brain would be an actual brain. Also, it removes the question of "Why did Yhwach decide to give the strongest ability he had to a brain in a jar?"

4, Why would the brain be separate from the Soul king?: The Soul king has been stated to have done things in the past, such as giving Ichibe the title "monk who calls the real name". However, when we finally see it it is basically a statue and doesn't react to anything, even being sliced in half. as both of its arms are missing, any piece of the Soul king that becomes its own entity causes that piece to be removed from the main body. A the Soul king doesn't react to anything, it is rather safe to assume its missing a brain, which would be gremmy.

5, Why the hell would the brain be a quincy?: Gremmy is a Quincy. While that sounds like a flaw in this argument, of the 4 characters that have came from the soul king (Mimihagi, Pernida, Gerard and Yhwach), three of them have been Quincys, and This makes it seem as though all the pieces of the soul king are Quincys, so it would make sense that if the Soul kings brain was around, it would be a quincy as well. (and possibly the soul king himself, but thats a theory for another day).


Next week on Crackpot Theories with Your Creepy Stalker: Was Shaz Domino really Espada #8, Szaelapporo Granz in disguise? Is Yhwach's Moustache a separate entity with it's own sternritter ranking? Was BG9 one of Bambietta Basterbine's science projects in high school? Learn the answers to these questions, and more, Next Week. They're all No. Shaz Domino is actually Zomari, Yhwach's Moustache is actually a member of the Espada (number -1), and it was Lilloto who build BG9 in high school. All Bambietta had was a baking soda volcano.
 
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while your theory looks good how ever you forgetting the part the links all of those soul king parts together, that they WONT go down that easily like gremmy, if he was really the brain he should have been the hardest to deal with in my opinion

i still believe that king's parts are all external limbs and heart being the only case of it like i dont think there will be some dude who will be the kidney of the soul king as well or this wont end any time soon :p .

and if gremmy really was part of the king then he would have been "revived" as well, no?


looking forward more of your theories.
 

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I'm looking forward to next week's theory, Yhwach's beard surely has some mystery to it.

OT: you should probably put epithets with the names (at least during the first mention) I had to Google Gremmy just to find out he's the imagination guy.
The theory actually makes sense, if Kubo had a clearly defined style theories would be easier but alas it's Kubo
 

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while your theory looks good how ever you forgetting the part the links all of those soul king parts together, that they WONT go down that easily like gremmy, if he was really the brain he should have been the hardest to deal with in my opinion

i still believe that king's parts are all external limbs and heart being the only case of it like i dont think there will be some dude who will be the kidney of the soul king as well or this wont end any time soon :p .

and if gremmy really was part of the king then he would have been "revived" as well, no?


looking forward more of your theories.
Pernida and Gerard went down pretty damn easy before being revived by the auswhalen.

also the lloyd brothers where the soul kings kidneys (they always bugged me, they had their power from non yhwach sources as well). in seriousness, really the only organs that matter are the brain and heart for this kind of metaphorical stuff. the only other bits i would be looking for are the eyes and the shadow, and one of those is almost certainly yhwach.
 
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I kinda would agree but I I feel askin is more in that general direction, I feel like he wanted to fight kenpachi not Grammy, think about it the power to make any thought a reality? Why would you attempt to make yourself stronger than kenpachi why not just think him dead how much harder can it be? Literally just he's alive and he's dead or he's banished to another existence? Look at how powerful Pernida is he almost soloed kenpachi I can't believe the soul kings mental capacity weaker then his left arm...askin kinda looks like a brain nerve ending.
 

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Logically speaking that should not be the case. For starters Gremmy has been beaten ages ago. It would really be redundant at this point to reveal that he would also be a part of the Soul King as it doesn't matter either way considering he's already gone. If he really was a part of the Soul King or Kubo should have revealed it at that time or he should have moved the battle to the current point in the story. Then again Kubo isn't really the best story teller.

Secondly however we are talking about the Soul King's brain. Arms are just limbs and despite the importance of the hart, on itself it's just an organ. The brain however controls everything. If the Soul King doesn't have a brain in him, no heart and no arms, what point was there even in killing him? He was already all over the place. Also Gremmy essentially killed himself by trying to imagine the extent of Zaraki's power, which made him implode. So the brain of the Soul King goes down for a reason like that?

Lastly there have been a few instances the Soul King showed some kind of awareness or at least situations were we can deduce that from. For example I think it was Ichibi who once said the Soul King wanted to meet Ichigo. What would now be the Soul King if all his vital body parts are all over the place?
 

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Just because gremmy died rather early, it doesn't mean he cant he a piece of the soul king. and didnt exactly last very long before being revived by the aushwalen.
 

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Just because gremmy died rather early, it doesn't mean he cant he a piece of the soul king. and didnt exactly last very long before being revived by the aushwalen.
The point is that for Pernida and Gerard it was revealed what they were and are on the moment what was and is likely their final battle. You are posting links to the fight they had with the Zero Squad, but in the end they were the ones who won that battle. The fact that Gremmy wasn't resurrected by Auswählen likewise or that Yhwach didn't take him with him to the Soul King's palace for that matter says enough. He takes the arm and the heart, even resurrects them, but leaves behind the brain? Now Gremmy is already gone, what point would there even be in stating that it's the Soul King's brain? I mean:

"remember Gremmy, he was the Soul King's brain!"

"So? He died ages ago"

At this point it loses all meaning, such a revelation would have zero impact on the story because it doesn't matter anymore. Unless of course the brain somehow becomes relevant again, but then it would have made much more sense to have Gremmy be one of the final Quincy instead of someone like Askin Nakk Le Vaar.
 

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I seriously find this soul king concept shitty. Seriously who is he?, a guy who pieces out his organs and transform them into a quincy?
And if gremmy was a SK's brain then kubo would have told us from the mouth of him or from a diff. character, it would be shitty if it reveals now
 

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havnt read bleach in ages, but i was looking forward to getting to know more about the Soul King.
However after reading some of the spoilers you gave, i find it highly dissappointing. I wonder if fairytail is doing better.
 

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Well, its a day ending with a Y. you know what that means. Its time for another crackpot theory or rant about Gremmy Thoumeaux! and today, a very special one! BOTH AT ONCE! On to the theory!


Basically, Gremmy is the soul kings brain. Heres a bunch of reasons why.

1, Why would the soul kings brain be around?: There are at least 3 pieces of the soul king running around, so i can easily believe that there are more we didn't realise where pieces. For instance, we didn't know Gerard was the heart until Askin said so.

2, Why would the Gremmy be a piece of the soul king?: Askin describes Pernida and Gerard as "Possessing unimaginable power". While this particular wording does more or less the opposite of applying to Gremmy, you must admit that he was about as Hax as is possible to get without just being omnipotent. His powers where FAR more impressive than the average sternritter, and i cant see Yhwach giving Gremmy those abilities and others something worthless like the Iron or the Roar. In addition, nowhere in the fight is it directly stated that Gremmy was given his powers by Yhwach, though that doesn't prove much.

3, Why would he be specifically the brain?: Gremmy's real body is a brain in a jar. No explanations are given as to why Gremmy is a brain in a jar, and it has always confused me why. Both Pernida and the Mimihagi take the form of arms, so it isn't unreasonable to assume that the soul kings brain would be an actual brain. Also, it removes the question of "Why did Yhwach decide to give the strongest ability he had to a brain in a jar?"

4, Why would the brain be separate from the Soul king?: The Soul king has been stated to have done things in the past, such as giving Ichibe the title "monk who calls the real name". However, when we finally see it it is basically a statue and doesn't react to anything, even being sliced in half. as both of its arms are missing, any piece of the Soul king that becomes its own entity causes that piece to be removed from the main body. A the Soul king doesn't react to anything, it is rather safe to assume its missing a brain, which would be gremmy.

5, Why the hell would the brain be a quincy?: Gremmy is a Quincy. While that sounds like a flaw in this argument, of the 4 characters that have came from the soul king (Mimihagi, Pernida, Gerard and Yhwach), three of them have been Quincys, and This makes it seem as though all the pieces of the soul king are Quincys, so it would make sense that if the Soul kings brain was around, it would be a quincy as well. (and possibly the soul king himself, but thats a theory for another day).


Next week on Crackpot Theories with Your Creepy Stalker: Was Shaz Domino really Espada #8, Szaelapporo Granz in disguise? Is Yhwach's Moustache a separate entity with it's own sternritter ranking? Was BG9 one of Bambietta Basterbine's science projects in high school? Learn the answers to these questions, and more, Next Week. They're all No. Shaz Domino is actually Zomari, Yhwach's Moustache is actually a member of the Espada (number -1), and it was Lilloto who build BG9 in high school. All Bambietta had was a baking soda volcano.
I have a question, if the soul king is in pieces in Ywach's army then what the hell is the soul king anyway? Both arms, a heart and I think his eyes are all part of the Quincy army so what was at the palace? A torso? with no heart? How'd Ywach get so many pieces of the SK?
 

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I have a question, if the soul king is in pieces in Ywach's army then what the hell is the soul king anyway? Both arms, a heart and I think his eyes are all part of the Quincy army so what was at the palace? A torso? with no heart? How'd Ywach get so many pieces of the SK?
Magic, duh. Yhwach's almost certainly a part of the soul king himself, so it makes sense why Pernida and Gerard would work with him.
 

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Man if Ywach is part of the Soul King too I quit. Or maybe it'll turn out Ichigo is really the Soul King's Zanpakuto this whole time dun dun dunnnnnn
maybe ichigo's zanpakuto was previously owned by SK then, also reveals why only ichigo can do transformations like final getsuga tenshou with his zanpakutou!!
Please don't make this a theory.

The Soul King isn't really a Shinigami, and it doesn't seem to be concious, there's no reason for it to have a Zanpakuto
 
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