[VS] Cracker>Doflamingo

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He already tried using gear 3 and it failed more miserably than the time he used it against Doffy....so him going to gear 4 is not him saving time since after him using gear 4 he will have to wait out 10 mins and take a breather where he won't be able to move.....so stop using this terrible excuse of him conserving time to justify him going straight to G4....Cracker is on the same level as Doffy if not stronger and if G2 and G3 didn't work on him what makes you think it will work on a guy who is a walking tank???
Just because 2 attacks were blocked doesn't mean he can't find a way around them.. He could try and speed up from behind for example. Gear 3 was innefective against Doffy bcs his evading skills were very high level. egardless of what Doffy was brabling g2 mae him bleed , even though he said it had no impact, those were the words of an arrogant man who saw everyone like cockroaches who were beneath him. Whitebeard also said he was fine when he had a gaping hole in his stomach.
 

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Last time i checked doffy rose one hand and ended up chatting with Croco-boy while sitting on the back of Whitebeard's top commanders. Don't blame me too much for staying with canon sources.

Mingo kicked and cut ruffy around, dodging everything the rubber boy threw at him. And when he finally got mingo with a punch, he didnt even have the decency to thank law for helping out with his room.
 
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It's a shonen anime, the next villain is more powerfull than the last.
I think Doffy is very overrated by fanboys. Don't hate please.
 

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It's a shonen anime, the next villain is more powerfull than the last.
I think Doffy is very overrated by fanboys. Don't hate please.

Foxy is more powerful than Enel? Foxy is more powerful than Crocodile? Hody is more powerful than the Admirals and Kuma? Is Caesar?
 

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It's a shonen anime, the next villain is more powerfull than the last.
I think Doffy is very overrated by fanboys. Don't hate please.

that is not true.

Just look at part 1 alone.

Luffy was handicapped in the fights he could easily win against Don Krieg and others and got buffed against Enel and Crocodile. Meanwhile he ran into Aokiji, Kuma and fought in the war of the best.

Luffy throughout part 1 was basically consistently at 1 base level (with the exception of the gear boost) and the enemies were formed around him.

I understand what you're saying though because you're right if you would look at DBZ, Naruto, Bleach and Fairy Tail etc. But the only enemy in part 1 who pushed Luffy to his limits in a 1 on 1 fight was really Rob Lucci. That was an unrestrained fight from both sides. All the others were or either weaker or stronger than Luffy and Oda compensated for that.

And it's a bit too early to to call the same pattern in part 2 since Hody was just a demonstration match, Ceasar was still on the easy side. and with Doflamingo he got help from Law. You could argue that it is some form of handicapping the bad guy again.

Maybe in 3 arcs time we would look back and say that Doflamingo still holds up pretty well. But on the other hand if Cracker now has an answer to G4 it would be safe to say that the coming enemies will surpass Doffy.

But One Piece doesn't follow the standard shonen route
 
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Foxy is more powerful than Enel? Foxy is more powerful than Crocodile? Hody is more powerful than the Admirals and Kuma? Is Caesar?
This time Luffy fight againts Yonko (the most f*ck powerful pirates in the world) and of course they have members in crew who is more powerful than a Shichibukai
So calm down and enjoy how your favorite is forget in this saga. Have a nice day.
 

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Can't wait for thousand arms Cracker

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A battle small fries like Doflamingo can't deal with :bouncy:

Maybe we'd even get the first King Kong Gatling :hyper:
 
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This time Luffy fight againts Yonko (the most f*ck powerful pirates in the world) and of course they have members in crew who is more powerful than a Shichibukai
So calm down and enjoy how your favorite is forget in this saga. Have a nice day.

Answer the question. Are Foxy and Caesar stronger than Admirals, Enel, and Crocodile?
 
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Answer the question. Are Foxy and Caesar stronger than Admirals, Enel, and Crocodile?

You compare this fodders who don't have any impact major in the series white Yonko and Shichibukai? This time is different.
 
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Can't wait for thousand arms Cracker

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A battle small fries like Doflamingo can't deal with :bouncy:

Maybe we'd even get the first King Kong Gatling :hyper:

That's true.
 

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You compare this fodders who don't have any impact major in the series white Yonko and Shichibukai? This time is different.

The fact that Oda does things that are "different" just shows that the pattern isn't 100% concrete to always happen, so it's not worth anything in argument.
 

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If you say so.

What do you mean "If I say so?" It's one or the other: Either every villain after is stronger, making Caesar and Hody and Foxy stronger than Admirals and Kuma, or the pattern isn't reliable.
 

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Foxy, Hody and Ceasar were practically background villains. Main villains were like Crocodile, Enel, Lucci, Moria, Doflamingo, etc. And no, that "every villain is stronger than the last" is wrong because Lucci was shown way after Enel but Enel is stronger than Lucci.
 
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What do you mean "If I say so?" It's one or the other: Either every villain after is stronger, making Caesar and Hody and Foxy stronger than Admirals and Kuma, or the pattern isn't reliable.
If you can see I don't give a f*ck about your obsession and arguments. Stop act like child.
Have a nice day
 

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Foxy, Hody and Ceasar were practically background villains. Main villains were like Crocodile, Enel, Lucci, Moria, Doflamingo, etc. And no, that "every villain is stronger than the next" is wrong because Lucci was shown way after Enel but Enel is stronger than Lucci.
Not sure why it matters considering Cracker isn't even the main villain of the current arc as opposed to Doffy. No, the reason why Cracker is stronger is because Big Mom(whose intel network has been the most highlighted and thus should know Doflamingo's strength) sent Cracker to deal with someone who defeated Doflamingo, and when it came down to it, he outperformed him when it came to fighting Luffy until g4, with a hyped battle coming this week :cool:
 

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Not sure why it matters considering Cracker isn't even the main villain of the current arc as opposed to Doffy.
This. Cracker isn't even a main villain so not sure why they are comparing him to a main villain like Doffy. xD
 

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This time Luffy fight againts Yonko (the most f*ck powerful pirates in the world) and of course they have members in crew who is more powerful than a Shichibukai
So calm down and enjoy how your favorite is forget in this saga. Have a nice day.

Lmfao I take it Cracker is > Mihawk as well then right? This time Luffy fights against Yonkous not some measly Shichibukai.

This time is different. This time is . This time...this...time..time...tuh.................
 

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If you can see I don't give a f*ck about your obsession and arguments. Stop act like child.
Have a nice day

Seems like you don't care since you got put in a corner with your terrible logic and realized that you either admit you're wrong which would make it seem like you are not the sharpest tool in the shed OR you could back your original logic which was just proven wrong meaning you would look ignorant....but that's none of my business :coffee:
 

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Not sure why it matters considering Cracker isn't even the main villain of the current arc as opposed to Doffy. No, the reason why Cracker is stronger is because Big Mom(whose intel network has been the most highlighted and thus should know Doflamingo's strength) sent Cracker to deal with someone who defeated Doflamingo, and when it came down to it, he outperformed him when it came to fighting Luffy until g4, with a hyped battle coming this week :cool:

But it took both law and luffy so why would it matter if she sent just cracker to defeat luffy... Imean the big angel guy from worst generation defeated a general who has same ranking as cracker .... So how would that mean that cracker is stronger then doffy ?
 
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