[VS] Cracker>Doflamingo

[Passerby]

Luffy admits he cant match Cracker if he doesnt go all out and he called Cracker "strong" and IIRC he never called Doflamingo "strong"
Doffys hype and feats will die soon.
The Yonko, The 3 sweet commanders, The 3 Calamities, Weevil, Ichiji, Shanks Top 3 and Blackbeards Top 3 will dominate the Yonko Saga!

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Luffy called Sanji strong. Sanji>DD confirmed!

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Yeah the fact that big mom sent him knowing that luffy defeated doffy kinda implies it. Though I can't take a dude using crackers as an armor seriously

 

[TRE MERCER]

Luffy going all out still couldn't defeat DD.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Luffy going all out still couldn't defeat DD.

lol right?

 

[Love Cook]

It might be hard to imagine that a yonkou has three monster underlings that are stronger than Doflamingo, but the his bounty and Cracker saying: "Straw hat Luffy is the man who brought Doflamingo" heavily imply that he is stronger.

Why else come alone to try and fight him if you're out of his league ?

 

[TRE MERCER]

lol right?

Are you disagreeing?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Are you disagreeing?

I'm agreeing. I don't get why people are saying that Luffy needing to go all out against Cracker means he's stronger than Doffy when Luffy went all out against Doffy and still lost without help.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I'm agreeing. I don't get why people are saying that Luffy needing to go all out against Cracker means he's stronger than Doffy when Luffy went all out against Doffy and still lost without help.

Also just because she's getting cracker on Luffy does not mean he's stronger than DD either

 

[Punk Hazard]

Also just because she's getting cracker on Luffy does not mean he's stronger than DD either

Yup. Could very well be her overestimating Cracker.

 

[Bogard]

Depends on how the fight would go. I'm pretty certain it'd be interrupted but hopefully it goes far enough(with Luffy using G4) like it's implied so far(he sent Luffy flying quite a distance and he is saying there is no other way than going all out)
Considering Doflamingo got crushed by G4, as long as Cracker performs even a little bit well against it, it'd confirm it yeah, but as mentioned most likely it'd be interrupted probably by Big Mom's vivre card

 

[LBeezy]

Luffy admits he cant match Cracker if he doesnt go all out and he called Cracker "strong" and IIRC he never called Doflamingo "strong"
Doffys hype and feats will die soon.
The Yonko, The 3 sweet commanders, The 3 Calamities, Weevil, Ichiji, Shanks Top 3 and Blackbeards Top 3 will dominate the Yonko Saga!

@ 1st bolded... Never did that happen. Lol

@ 2nd bolded... I completely agree.

 

[LBeezy]

Luffy going all out still couldn't defeat DD.

False.

 

[Punk Hazard]

False.

No, it's 100% true. Luffy went all out, and the result was him laying on the ground as Doflamingo marched towards him. When the only reason you won is because dozens of people kept you alive during the fight, then you lost fr fr.

That fight was Luffy and Law and Colosseum fighters vs Doflamingo.

 

[LBeezy]

No, it's 100% true. Luffy went all out, and the result was him laying on the ground as Doflamingo marched towards him. When the only reason you won is because dozens of people kept you alive during the fight, then you lost fr fr.

That fight was Luffy and Law and Colosseum fighters vs Doflamingo.

Doflamingo and co.*

It was never a 1v1 from the start of Dressrosa.

So given Luffy at full strength and health vs a Doflamingo at full strength and health... I say Luffy would win.

IMO of course..

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doflamingo and co.*

It was never a 1v1 from the start of Dressrosa.

So given Luffy at full strength and health vs a Doflamingo at full strength and health... I say Luffy would win.

IMO of course..

Except Luffy at near full vs Doflamingo half dead resulted in Luffy laying on the ground unable to move while Doflamingo had more than enough strength to kill him at this point. Luffy wasn't significantly injured by anyone who wasn't Doflamingo himself, so the company on Doflamingo's part is irrelevant to Luffy's status.

If they went one on one, it'd end the same way: Luffy on the ground unable to move, and Doflamingo primed to finish him off, except this time Luffy won't have dozens of people helping him.

 

[LBeezy]

Except Luffy at near full vs Doflamingo half dead resulted in Luffy laying on the ground unable to move while Doflamingo had more than enough strength to kill him at this point. Luffy wasn't significantly injured by anyone who wasn't Doflamingo himself, so the company on Doflamingo's part is irrelevant to Luffy's status.

If they went one on one, it'd end the same way: Luffy on the ground unable to move, and Doflamingo primed to finish him off, except this time Luffy won't have dozens of people helping him.

Luffy may not have been significantly injured, true.. but the amount of haki and energy he already wasted would be full at 100%... leading his Gear 4th to last longer, hence that last attack he needed to defeat Doflamingo would be landed, if not more attacks as well..

It would be Doflamingo on the ground unable to move at the end bro.

 

[OG sama]

Lets look at Crackers hype:

-Has the second highest bounty known in the series.

-Is a Yonko Top 3 Commander

-Luffy said he was strong, and looked pretty serious about it.

-Those Trees were hyping the hell out of him.

-Big Mom sent Cracker because(she thinks at least) Luffy soloed Doflamingo. Not only that But she views him as strong enough to beat the guy who soloed Mingo.

-Luffy said he didn't know how to defeat him without going all out, implying he needs Gear 4.

-Doflamingo was defeated two arcs ago and this is the Yonko saga.

Conclusion: With all this hype it sounds like oda really wants us to know that Cracker is stronger than Doflamingo. Being a top 3 yonko commander means he probably is because this is the level most people believe Doflamingo is close to.

Side note: Anybody thinking Doflamingo level should be a threat to Luffy when Yonko are involved is seriously playing themselves. Luffy wont need help this time around. And why should he? If he needs help just taking down a commander he has no business challenging Yonko.

Doffy tards expect Luffy to lose to show how beneath Doflamingo he is in an arc about a yonko? Sorry that's not how oda rolls.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Side note: Anybody thinking Doflamingo level should be a threat to Luffy when Yonko are involved is seriously playing themselves. Luffy wont need help this time around. And why should he? If he needs help just taking down a commander he has no business challenging Yonko.

This isn't consistent with the manga or Oda's words. He's stated that he doesn't quite know how Luffy will get around Kaido because there's no way he can beat him in a recent interview. Robin stated that the Yonko are nothing like they people they've faced so far. If Cracker can push Luffy, as people here are saying will happen, then he's definitely not ready for a Yonko.

Saying "Luffy's name with the Yonko" is a purposeful piece of misinformation. His name being brought up in a conversation with Yonko is only to say he's not on their level yet, by characters and by Oda himself, which defeats the point you're trying to convey by misstating what's happening.

 

[ToshiZO]

Lets look at Crackers hype:

-Has the second highest bounty known in the series.

-Is a Yonko Top 3 Commander

-Luffy said he was strong, and looked pretty serious about it.

-Those Trees were hyping the hell out of him.

-Big Mom sent Cracker because(she thinks at least) Luffy soloed Doflamingo. Not only that But she views him as strong enough to beat the guy who soloed Mingo.

-Luffy said he didn't know how to defeat him without going all out, implying he needs Gear 4.

-Doflamingo was defeated two arcs ago and this is the Yonko saga.

Conclusion: With all this hype it sounds like oda really wants us to know that Cracker is stronger than Doflamingo. Being a top 3 yonko commander means he probably is because this is the level most people believe Doflamingo is close to.

Side note: Anybody thinking Doflamingo level should be a threat to Luffy when Yonko are involved is seriously playing themselves. Luffy wont need help this time around. And why should he? If he needs help just taking down a commander he has no business challenging Yonko.

Doffy tards expect Luffy to lose to show how beneath Doflamingo he is in an arc about a yonko? Sorry that's not how oda rolls.

@bold no she doesn't. The world knows the Doffy loss as a Luffy/Law combo.