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You know that clones can device a strategy. Why they all need to attack Obito at the same time?

10 000 clones, 10 percents of them can make Obito busy until his intangibility reach his limit and entering cooldown time. How long Obito want to fight in intangibility mode bcus it's not effective to kill all clones let alone original Naruto.

Konan doesnt have that kind of luxury.

But against Amenotejakra? He can switch with huge objects.

Tobious faced thousands of paper tags before using izanagi. So are you implying that he can throw thousands of clones at him for 5 minutes straight instantaneously?

Konan is the only shinobi in the entirety of the manga who can hit his 5 minute limit. Period.
 

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10/10 thread.
Nothin but MangaFacts!!!
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You know that clones can device a strategy. Why they all need to attack Obito at the same time?

Because he can keep it for five minutes intangibility. If it isn't consecutively, then the interval time will start all over again. Making his intangible time as long as his chakra can hold him.
10 000 clones, 10 percents of them can make Obito busy until his intangibility reach his limit and entering cooldown time. How long Obito want to fight in intangibility mode bcus it's not effective to kill all clones let alone original Naruto.

Konan doesnt have that kind of luxury.
Konan had way more paper bombs than naruto did produce a clone. Even with a strategy, the clones have to be constantly active non stop for the cooldown time to work. If any of the shadow clones stop and take a break, the user can use that time to wait without kamui.

Konan's papers did have the luxury because she kept the papers flowing nonstop.
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Konan is the only shinobi in the entirety of the manga who can hit his 5 minute limit. Period.
How long is that Gojo thing?
It still has to become solid at one point, read the manga again :lol
Kakashi did solid his attack when it is hitting Kaguya body while his body is intangible. But Naruto has thousand of clones that is stronger even than Kaguya bone (manga fact : his clone stuck the bone and broke it) so the building is kinda fodder compared to Kaguya bone :lol . Back to thousand of clones, it can just each beam up Oodama rasengan and cover the area where the Kamui user stood/fly, so if he is back he is dead :lol
Kakashi's raikiri was the only one not intangible, while kakashi himself was. That's why Kaguya couldn't even touch kakashi so why would naruto? Ash bone is suppose to crumble, just like it did when it hit Obito and Obito is a fodder compared to ash bone.
 
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Because he can keep it for five minutes intangibility. If it isn't consecutively, then the interval time will start all over again. Making his intangible time as long as his chakra can hold him.

Konan had way more paper bombs than naruto did produce a clone. Even with a strategy, the clones have to be constantly active non stop for the cooldown time to work. If any of the shadow clones stop and take a break, the user can use that time to wait without kamui.

Konan's papers did have the luxury because she kept the papers flowing nonstop.
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How long is that Gojo thing?

How long is five minutes? You make it look like one hour.

Continues attacks from Naruto's clones can help achieved that. As Obito just standing there.

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But sure battle like that wont happen as Obito will teleport inside out more than he stayed intangible forever.

But as I said before intangibility alone is not enough without counter, countering effort mean obito need to solidify his body.

To teleport also, he need to solidify his body and Naruto clones is fast and can exploit that.
 
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How long is five minutes? You make it look like one hours.

Continues attacks from Naruto's clones can help achieved that. As Obito just standing there.

5 minutes is really long in a fight. Just look at professional fighting, and time space ninjutsus make 5 minutes look like 5 hours.
Just look at it this way...
Pretend the papers being thrown at Tobious are represented as naruto's shadow clones. How many papers (aka shadow clones in this scenario) is being thrown at Tobious here? Thousands have been launch and minute hasn't even gone by.
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Also like you said too, what if the user is intangible while moving around and attack like Tobious and kakashi?
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5 minutes is really long in a fight. Just look at professional fighting, and time space ninjutsus make 5 minutes look like 5 hours.
Just look at it this way...
Pretend the papers being thrown at Tobious are represented as naruto's shadow clones. How many papers (aka shadow clones in this scenario) is being thrown at Tobious here? Thousands have been launch and minute hasn't even gone by.
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Also like you said too, what if the user is intangible while moving around and attack like Tobious and kakashi?
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I can see and agree Kamui can be problematic to fight bcus it trickiness. I can see what you said here.

But it bcus we never saw massive numbers of clones fought with Obito.

I still give 50/50 for this kind of battle.
 

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I can see and agree Kamui can be problematic to fight bcus it trickiness. I can see what you said here.

But it bcus we never saw massive numbers of clones fought with Obito.

I still give 50/50 for this kind of battle.

For me it just depends on how long naruto can produce and keep attacking. But if they decides to neglect intangible+Raikiri or intangible+statue chains to warp naruto then rsm naruto wouldn't need a shadow clone to beat he/she/them.
 

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naruto has intangible power
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who cares about a fodder tech...

base Gai>kamui...

pedo'/kakashit aint shit tbh..

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Pleps, Naruto attacks are senjutsu frog kata and there is no way for Kamui user to know exactly where it is going to land on their body.

Kakashi attack become solid and Naruto just attack at the solid point which will eventually damage Kakashi.

Naruto is fast enough to blitz Kaguya who has faster reflect than instant space swap attack coming from Sasuke. While Kakashi attack was caught Kaguya off guard and hit her. Naruto can just simple blitz Kakashi before he could even phase his body and Naruto also know the trick of Kamui.

Naruto fought with Kaguya for like many hours while Obito or Kakashi didnt have enough of chakra to even able to keep up. Naruto tank THE WORLD ATTACK from Kaguya, so there is nothin Kamui user really work on him :lol
Even Gai attack keeps Obito in check :lol while Naruto attack are senjutsu aura based attack and cant be seen :lol
 

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This is why im not for participation trophies.
 
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