Could Trump be described as a Marxist takeover?

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Does no one remember the idea that he was nominated so Hillary would win? But then it backfired...

Trump will lead the way to a democratic-socialist paradise because of his failures. He is spark that will ignite the flame that will bring the Republican Party down.
I remember it very well. I was called stupid for suggesting it as people like yourself trumpeted that Trump was going to win the Republican nomination and talked him up, just as Hillary's own e-mails discussed doing. Be careful who you sleep with, kiddo.

Of course, Trump had a field-day with this strategy, as it was obvious that Hillary would suspect she could easily win against Trump and advance him as a pied piper. These people are stupid.

What many did not count on, myself included, was just how prepared Trump was for the Presidency and how effective he would be. The number of CEO resignations is absolutely staggering as people who sold American businesses out abroad have been driven out of their offices and contracts for new business construction (industrial) have gone through the roof. Measures have been put in place to begin reigning in the Federal Reserve and (potentially) re-tying the currency to Gold or another backed standard. It won't happen overnight, as the team has been very diligent in protecting the held value of assets (in a market meltup, retirement accounts and other such things evaporate). The liberation of North Korea from the CIA was another completely unexpected turn that is glorious, as well as the avoidance of nuclear war with Russia via current events in Syria. That time-bomb is being defused.

Business is returning to not just America, but the world. China wants to get out from under the trade deficit even more than we do. Korea has been trying to streamline their own economy for a decade, now, and has been hampered by bad trade deals, the list goes on. These are not just the actions of Trump, but of an entire team of people - most of whom you probably will never hear the names of - who have been working to put an end to the greatest series of injustices and crimes ever committed in the history of our world (probably.... what history we think we know, at least).
 

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Dude it’s all rhetoric. Also, to be fair, all presidential addresses use 8th grade level vocabulary. I took several linguistic and rhetoric courses in college. His speech patterns are for your attention and then just reinforcement like all good rhetoric.

It’s not wisdom, get off his nuts.


Your argument is invalid. Demand a refund on your degree. It will earn you no points with me.

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I remember it very well. I was called stupid for suggesting it as people like yourself trumpeted that Trump was going to win the Republican nomination and talked him up, just as Hillary's own e-mails discussed doing. Be careful who you sleep with, kiddo.

Of course, Trump had a field-day with this strategy, as it was obvious that Hillary would suspect she could easily win against Trump and advance him as a pied piper. These people are stupid.

What many did not count on, myself included, was just how prepared Trump was for the Presidency and how effective he would be. The number of CEO resignations is absolutely staggering as people who sold American businesses out abroad have been driven out of their offices and contracts for new business construction (industrial) have gone through the roof. Measures have been put in place to begin reigning in the Federal Reserve and (potentially) re-tying the currency to Gold or another backed standard. It won't happen overnight, as the team has been very diligent in protecting the held value of assets (in a market meltup, retirement accounts and other such things evaporate). The liberation of North Korea from the CIA was another completely unexpected turn that is glorious, as well as the avoidance of nuclear war with Russia via current events in Syria. That time-bomb is being defused.

Business is returning to not just America, but the world. China wants to get out from under the trade deficit even more than we do. Korea has been trying to streamline their own economy for a decade, now, and has been hampered by bad trade deals, the list goes on. These are not just the actions of Trump, but of an entire team of people - most of whom you probably will never hear the names of - who have been working to put an end to the greatest series of injustices and crimes ever committed in the history of our world (probably.... what history we think we know, at least).
Well this is all bullshit.

Jobs are being outsourced at an even higher rate than before, even with the massive tax break to the rich.

More than 10,000 federal contractor jobs have been sent overseas and over 90,000 (certified by the Department of Labor) as lost to outsourcing or trade competition and the trend keeps going in that direction.




While that's happening, because Trump still has not divested from his companies, he's personally enriching himself by bailing out a Chinese-government-owned cellphone maker only 72 hours after the Chinese government promised to invest $500 million into an Indonesian project with Trump's businesses.





The irony deepens since Trump is at the same time pushing for an "America First" trade policy and campaigned as one of his core message about the malpractice of the Chinese foreign trade.


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Well this is all bullshit.

Jobs are being outsourced at an even higher rate than before, even with the massive tax break to the rich.
No, they are not.

More than 10,000 federal contractor jobs have been sent overseas and over 90,000 (certified by the Department of Labor) as lost to outsourcing or trade competition and the trend keeps going in that direction.
Federal contractors. That's not the economy. Those are the brakes on the economy.

While that's happening, because Trump still has not divested from his companies, he's personally enriching himself by bailing out a Chinese-government-owned cellphone maker only 72 hours after the Chinese government promised to invest $500 million into an Indonesian project with Trump's businesses.
*yawn*

He did what, now? Donald J. Trump gave what order to do what with which held assets?

There is a reason ZTE was given what it was, and it has to do with national security concerns related to Apple. This one is a bit far over the horizon, though. What it boils down to is that Apple and a few other phone providers have been collaborating to build a surveillance network that creates a constitutional crisis, particularly when it has been paired with facebook and google to produce an Orwellian nightmare system.

This isn't just Trump.

The irony deepens since Trump is at the same time pushing for an "America First" trade policy and campaigned as one of his core message about the malpractice of the Chinese foreign trade.
You're a bit slow to catch on. What happened with steel?



This has been an ongoing case which was developed over the course of 2017 and was reviewed by government panels at the beginning of 2018. Contrary to how the media portrays it, it was not just an arbitrary decision by DJT. We had investigators come through our factory as part of the investigation into the impact of steel imports.

The impact can't be overstated. U.S. primary ore smelt has effectively vanished. Almost all U.S. steel is recycled from Chinese steel imports. Not only is this a disaster for the U.S. economy, it is an enormous security vulnerability and an even greater burden on the Chinese economy, which must compete with American steel market prices for its own construction projects and population of over twice as many people.



This news is not as small as it appears. There are only a handfull of primary and secondary processing facilities for steel in the United States, and even this relatively small foundry of only 250 people will drastically impact construction in the midwest while opening up space in primary melt facilities.



The fact they are considering a SECOND facility in the south-east, and that these represent the first expansions of steel processing capability in over a decade should be notable.

The case of Aluminum is even more dire:



What is somewhat buried within the numbers is that ALL U.S. Aluminum is secondary source. There is no primary ore refinement conducted in the U.S. of Bauxite or other commercial alumina sources. To call this a national security concern is the understatement among understatements in the context of economic warfare.

Other aspects of what I am speaking will become clear as Fast and Furious re-breaks, again. Weiner was just served his indictment and a bunch of fun things are getting ready to happen all across the board. When you begin to see what had to be done in order to free the world, you will understand why I stand in awe of the fact we are not currently killing each other over corn sprouts. That is precisely what was set up as the contingency for if the peasants ever got rowdy and caught onto their plan.

Fasten your seat belt. We're about to touch-down with reality, and the winds are choppy.
 

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No, they are not.
Um, yes they are. I just linked you a study.



Federal contractors. That's not the economy. Those are the brakes on the economy.
Did you not read the rest of what I said? 90,000 jobs were lost. Those were not federal contractors.

You stated a falsehood that jobs were on the rise based on nothing.

*yawn*

He did what, now? Donald J. Trump gave what order to do what with which held assets?
Yawning at Trump's corruption? What a surprise....




There is a reason ZTE was given what it was, and it has to do with national security concerns related to Apple. This one is a bit far over the horizon, though. What it boils down to is that Apple and a few other phone providers have been collaborating to build a surveillance network that creates a constitutional crisis, particularly when it has been paired with facebook and google to produce an Orwellian nightmare system.
What a nice assumption with no supported evidence.



You're a bit slow to catch on. What happened with steel?




This isn't just Trump.

This has been an ongoing case which was developed over the course of 2017 and was reviewed by government panels at the beginning of 2018. Contrary to how the media portrays it, it was not just an arbitrary decision by DJT. We had investigators come through our factory as part of the investigation into the impact of steel imports.

The impact can't be overstated. U.S. primary ore smelt has effectively vanished. Almost all U.S. steel is recycled from Chinese steel imports. Not only is this a disaster for the U.S. economy, it is an enormous security vulnerability and an even greater burden on the Chinese economy, which must compete with American steel market prices for its own construction projects and population of over twice as many people.



This news is not as small as it appears. There are only a handfull of primary and secondary processing facilities for steel in the United States, and even this relatively small foundry of only 250 people will drastically impact construction in the midwest while opening up space in primary melt facilities.



The fact they are considering a SECOND facility in the south-east, and that these represent the first expansions of steel processing capability in over a decade should be notable.

The case of Aluminum is even more dire:



What is somewhat buried within the numbers is that ALL U.S. Aluminum is secondary source. There is no primary ore refinement conducted in the U.S. of Bauxite or other commercial alumina sources. To call this a national security concern is the understatement among understatements in the context of economic warfare.

Other aspects of what I am speaking will become clear as Fast and Furious re-breaks, again. Weiner was just served his indictment and a bunch of fun things are getting ready to happen all across the board. When you begin to see what had to be done in order to free the world, you will understand why I stand in awe of the fact we are not currently killing each other over corn sprouts. That is precisely what was set up as the contingency for if the peasants ever got rowdy and caught onto their plan.

Fasten your seat belt. We're about to touch-down with reality, and the winds are choppy.
This entire section has absolutely no relevance to what I just said. You just segued into an entirely different topic. I just explained to you in detail how Trump is personally enriching himself by selling out to the Chinese government and bailing out a major telecom company while introducing an America first bill.

Your response was: "well he puts some aluminum tariffs on China." And? How does that excuse Trump using government money to bailout a major Chinese telecom company so that they can funnel their own money into his business through a project in Indonesia? You just made a red herring.
 
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Um, yes they are. I just linked you a study.
That's cute.

Did you not read the rest of what I said? 90,000 jobs were lost. Those were not federal contractors.
Read your source. Yes they were.

You stated a falsehood that jobs were on the rise based on nothing.
*yawn*



Outside of a select few who remain inside of an echo-chamber, what I am saying basically constitutes an established fact of common knowledge.

If we want, I can go into further economic studies and dissertations on what has been going on in the past year.





What is very interesting in the second is the critique of the trade imbalance debate. Notably, it targets a lack of Chinese consumption as a cause of the trade deficit. It, however, misses precisely what has been accomplished through the tariffs. The error made in discussing foreign trade is the belief that Chinese manufacturers are selling their goods in the U.S. at prices competitive for their cost to produce. This is in error - virtually everything sold in America that is made in China is sold at prices far beyond what it would be sold for, domestically, and at windfall profit margins. Worse, this places the Chinese CONSUMERS in competition with American consumers for the supply of manufactured goods. There is no competition - the American wins out and is awarded the production of Chinese companies when demand in China is nowhere near saturated.

By edging out the slight price advantage Chinese products command on American shelves, the Chinese are forced into a scenario where their manufacturers will not see a great price advantage on the shelves of American stores until the price has dropped well into territories that bring them into competition with domestic sales contracts (part of the problem is, again, not just the shelf price, but the contract price to bring it to the shelf) both within the U.S. and within their own country. Chinese department stores and retail chains are competing for factory output just as American stores are - and the Americans can generally command a very high price and have first pick among the world's factories. Brands don't always own factories, or as they branch into related fields, simply contract an existing factory with the associated product line. With the new policies in place, things re-balance toward stores choosing to source from their domestic markets.

China has wanted to get out from under the trade deficit for some time, as well. But this was impossible as U.S. manufacturing regulations made starting a new factory effectively illegal and U.S. mining production was in free-fall.

Yawning at Trump's corruption? What a surprise....
No, at your stupidity.

What a nice assumption with no supported evidence.
You misunderstand the intent of my statement. We are not arguing. You are being told what is up. Some things I will choose to source, other things, I am not going to bother for the time being. I have, in the past, invested large amounts of time in explaining things in great detail with full sources, analysis, and conclusions.

You are not here to learn, you are here to pump an agenda. As such, I am simply here to give a counter. Well, and to search for my ninja, but that is another story. I'm actually fairly certain that's already been achieved and my antics here, unnecessary. But, punching people in the face is fun.

This entire section has absolutely no relevance to what I just said. You just segued into an entirely different topic. I just explained to you in detail how Trump is personally enriching himself by selling out to the Chinese government and bailing out a major telecom company while introducing an America first bill.
We are no longer talking about the telecom issue. That was already dealt with, and we were moving onto your general theme. Do try to keep up.

Your response was: "well he puts some aluminum tariffs on China." And? How does that excuse Trump using government money to bailout a major Chinese telecom company so that they can funnel their own money into his business through a project in Indonesia? You just made a red herring because that's all you can do as a response.
See above.

However, I will indulge you one last time.



The issue is that ZTE has suspended its primary operations due to sanctions placed on it for selling materials to Iran and North Korea. Even CNN understands the complexity of this ordeal:



For those interested:

ZTE's business became untenable after a US government order banned American companies from exporting technology to the Chinese smartphone maker. ZTE is heavily dependent on US-made components, especially Qualcomm chips and Google's Android software stack.

Last year, ZTE admitted to an elaborate multi-year scheme to sell US-made technology to Iran and North Korea in violation of US sanctions laws. ZTE paid $890 million in penalties and said it was in the process of disciplining dozens of senior company officials who had orchestrated a scheme to violate US sanctions laws.

But last month the Trump administration accused ZTE of continuing to lie to the US government even after last year's guilty plea. The company told the US government that the guilty executives had received letters of reprimand and had had their 2016 bonuses reduced. But the US now says that was a lie—many of the employees received full bonuses, and they didn't receive letters of reprimand until early 2018—after the US government challenged ZTE on the issue.

In the April 15 order activating the export ban against ZTE, US Commerce Department official Richard Majauskas wrote that ZTE had demonstrated a "pattern of deception, false statements, and repeated violations." A July 2017 letter to US officials was "brimming with false statements," he said.

Since 2011, Majauskas argued, ZTE had "employed multiple strategies in an attempt to conceal and obscure the true nature and extent of the company's role" in transactions that moved US-made technology to Iran and North Korea. "As a result of the conspiracy, ZTE was able to obtain hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts with and sales from Iranian entities to ship routers, microprocessors, and servers" that were subject to US export restrictions.

Now... let's go on a little adventure, shall we?







Gizmodo verified the ban was in place through an independent test. It’s unclear, however, whether Apple is responsible or even has knowledge of the ban. The company did not respond to an email or voice mail message. When queried, Apple Support directed Gizmodo to Apple’s Features Availability page—which was entirely pointless since Iran has never been listed there.

Hint: Iran isn't supposed to have iPhones. Neither is North Korea supposed to have the technology for them.

ZTE was a sub-contractor in a much more elaborate scheme.

Why does Google have servers in North Korea?
 

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That's cute.



Read your source. Yes they were.



*yawn*



Outside of a select few who remain inside of an echo-chamber, what I am saying basically constitutes an established fact of common knowledge.

If we want, I can go into further economic studies and dissertations on what has been going on in the past year.





What is very interesting in the second is the critique of the trade imbalance debate. Notably, it targets a lack of Chinese consumption as a cause of the trade deficit. It, however, misses precisely what has been accomplished through the tariffs. The error made in discussing foreign trade is the belief that Chinese manufacturers are selling their goods in the U.S. at prices competitive for their cost to produce. This is in error - virtually everything sold in America that is made in China is sold at prices far beyond what it would be sold for, domestically, and at windfall profit margins. Worse, this places the Chinese CONSUMERS in competition with American consumers for the supply of manufactured goods. There is no competition - the American wins out and is awarded the production of Chinese companies when demand in China is nowhere near saturated.

By edging out the slight price advantage Chinese products command on American shelves, the Chinese are forced into a scenario where their manufacturers will not see a great price advantage on the shelves of American stores until the price has dropped well into territories that bring them into competition with domestic sales contracts (part of the problem is, again, not just the shelf price, but the contract price to bring it to the shelf) both within the U.S. and within their own country. Chinese department stores and retail chains are competing for factory output just as American stores are - and the Americans can generally command a very high price and have first pick among the world's factories. Brands don't always own factories, or as they branch into related fields, simply contract an existing factory with the associated product line. With the new policies in place, things re-balance toward stores choosing to source from their domestic markets.

China has wanted to get out from under the trade deficit for some time, as well. But this was impossible as U.S. manufacturing regulations made starting a new factory effectively illegal and U.S. mining production was in free-fall.



No, at your stupidity.



You misunderstand the intent of my statement. We are not arguing. You are being told what is up. Some things I will choose to source, other things, I am not going to bother for the time being. I have, in the past, invested large amounts of time in explaining things in great detail with full sources, analysis, and conclusions.

You are not here to learn, you are here to pump an agenda. As such, I am simply here to give a counter. Well, and to search for my ninja, but that is another story. I'm actually fairly certain that's already been achieved and my antics here, unnecessary. But, punching people in the face is fun.



We are no longer talking about the telecom issue. That was already dealt with, and we were moving onto your general theme. Do try to keep up.



See above.

However, I will indulge you one last time.



The issue is that ZTE has suspended its primary operations due to sanctions placed on it for selling materials to Iran and North Korea. Even CNN understands the complexity of this ordeal:



For those interested:

ZTE's business became untenable after a US government order banned American companies from exporting technology to the Chinese smartphone maker. ZTE is heavily dependent on US-made components, especially Qualcomm chips and Google's Android software stack.

Last year, ZTE admitted to an elaborate multi-year scheme to sell US-made technology to Iran and North Korea in violation of US sanctions laws. ZTE paid $890 million in penalties and said it was in the process of disciplining dozens of senior company officials who had orchestrated a scheme to violate US sanctions laws.

But last month the Trump administration accused ZTE of continuing to lie to the US government even after last year's guilty plea. The company told the US government that the guilty executives had received letters of reprimand and had had their 2016 bonuses reduced. But the US now says that was a lie—many of the employees received full bonuses, and they didn't receive letters of reprimand until early 2018—after the US government challenged ZTE on the issue.

In the April 15 order activating the export ban against ZTE, US Commerce Department official Richard Majauskas wrote that ZTE had demonstrated a "pattern of deception, false statements, and repeated violations." A July 2017 letter to US officials was "brimming with false statements," he said.

Since 2011, Majauskas argued, ZTE had "employed multiple strategies in an attempt to conceal and obscure the true nature and extent of the company's role" in transactions that moved US-made technology to Iran and North Korea. "As a result of the conspiracy, ZTE was able to obtain hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts with and sales from Iranian entities to ship routers, microprocessors, and servers" that were subject to US export restrictions.

Now... let's go on a little adventure, shall we?







Gizmodo verified the ban was in place through an independent test. It’s unclear, however, whether Apple is responsible or even has knowledge of the ban. The company did not respond to an email or voice mail message. When queried, Apple Support directed Gizmodo to Apple’s Features Availability page—which was entirely pointless since Iran has never been listed there.

Hint: Iran isn't supposed to have iPhones. Neither is North Korea supposed to have the technology for them.

ZTE was a sub-contractor in a much more elaborate scheme.

Why does Google have servers in North Korea?
Jesus Christ, you sure love writing walls of text that can be summarized in like a sentence. Quit sandwiching the argument with unneeded jargon.

*Yawn*

Fine, they were federal contractor jobs, which means the government and Trump had a direct hand in outsourcing those jobs. I don't see how outsourcing those jobs makes it any different as to whether or not they were contractors? Loss of jobs is loss of jobs.


Also, dude, learn to read. Your article doesn't show anything new. The market has been on the rise since Obama has left and whatever gains since have been marginal.

Even the article says that whatever gains will happen under Trump would be a temporary boost from the tax plan which still hasn't taken effect until next year, and that was his only major legislation thus far. There is no policy that he could have passed which would have effected the market this early in his presidency. Please, sit your ass down. You're giving him undeserved credit.

Also, have you heard of the term "bubble?" That's what we're in right now. We're in one giant inflated bubble. So when you look at history, every single time there's been tax cuts for the rich, and deregulation, which is exactly what we've seen the Trump administration do, there's called a "Boom and Bust Cycle." So everything takes off and it looks like the economy is doing well and then crashes.

Ok, great. What a pointless adventure as none of those articles gave any reason as to why Trump all of a sudden is doing favors for China in helping this specific telecom company, which was sanctioned for reasons you've linked 6 articles on.

Let me take you on an adventure now:



"A billion-dollar Indonesian property development with ties to US President Donald Trump has become the latest project in China’s globe-spanning Belt and Road infrastructure project – just as Washington and Beijing are tussling over trade.

A subsidiary of Chinese state-owned construction firm Metallurgical Corporation of China (MCC) signed a deal with Indonesia’s MNC Land to build a theme park outside Jakarta as part of the ambitious project, the company said on Thursday.

The project includes Trump-branded hotels, residences and a golf course, as well as other hotel, shopping and residential developments.

The deal is the latest to raise questions about the extent of Trump’s financial exposure to Beijing."



"However, according to MNC company materials and Indonesian news reports citing statements by MNC officials, the project has since at least 2016 banked on Chinese loans from the state-owned Chinese Export and Credit Insurance Corporation (Sinosure). AFP reported that the project could see up to $1 billion in backing from the Sinosure and Chinese companies. The Trump Organization has been signed on the develop a luxury hotel and golf course on the resort since 2015."


So to summarize, you got nothing.

All you did was link me articles that explain the history behind ZTE and explaining current events. None of them shed any light as to why Trump did what he did for such a notorious company, which coincidentally happened right after China invested $500 million into an Indonesian project with the Trump's businesses.

It's ok if you don't want to talk about ZTE anymore since all you did was deflect and write walls of text that didn't touch upon the corruption. Or you can just admit what Trump is doing is nefarious and corrupt and we can at least be on agreement with something. Pretending like this topic is over only makes you look like a brainwashed Trumpist that ignores anything bad Trump does.
 
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Has anyone else noticed that Narushima hasn't been posting much? It's a shame because I feel like him and Aim64C would get along well since they have a lot in common.
 

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Jesus Christ, you sure love writing walls of text that can be summarized in like a sentence. Quit sandwiching the argument with unneeded jargon.
You're stupid.

Fine, they were federal contractor jobs, which means the government and Trump had a direct hand in outsourcing those jobs. I don't see how outsourcing those jobs makes it any different as to whether or not they were contractors? Loss of jobs is loss of jobs.
Do you understand how contractors work, idiot?

Also, dude, learn to read. Your article doesn't show anything new. The market has been on the rise since Obama has left and whatever gains since have been marginal.
Learn to read, fool.

Even the article says that whatever gains will happen under Trump would be a temporary boost from the tax plan which still hasn't taken effect until next year, and that was his only major legislation thus far. There is no policy that he could have passed which would have effected the market this early in his presidency. Please, sit your ass down. You're giving him undeserved credit.
You're not making any sense. We're losing jobs, but the economy was growing and unemployment took a sharp turn down in 2017... but not because of anything Trump did as he's done nothing substantial but outsource jobs.

Would you start speaking something coherent?

Also, have you heard of the term "bubble?" That's what we're in right now. We're in one giant inflated bubble. So when you look at history, every single time there's been tax cuts for the rich, and deregulation, which is exactly what we've seen the Trump administration do, there's called a "Boom and Bust Cycle." So everything takes off and it looks like the economy is doing well and then crashes.
You have, absolutely, no idea what a bubble is.

A bubble is when market assets are over-valued from their fundamental trade values. The whole economy was in a bubble after 2010, and has been ever since. To understand this, we have to go well beyond the confines of this conversation and branch into fiat currency systems and debt-leveraged assets where I can loan you and your friend a thousand dollars and then sell the loans, after your first couple payments, for $800 per to your retirement fund. Loop Capital. Keep that name in the back of your mind. Will make headlines, soon. Who financed Obama's bid for Senate?

Anyway - now you are saying that things look good. But nothing of consequence was done. But when this crashes, it will be Trump's fault.

Again, we defused what you had set up. Nice try, though.

Ok, great. What a pointless adventure as none of those articles gave any reason as to why Trump all of a sudden is doing favors for China in helping this specific telecom company, which was sanctioned for reasons you've linked 6 articles on.
Of course it does. Do you think ZTE set out, on its own accord, to begin selling things to Iran and North Korea? How did they get beneath trade restrictions and regulations? Who set up the shipments? Who brokered the agreements?

That testimony is, very much, worth preventing the destruction of that company. Especially now that Iran and North Korea are no longer hostile states. Strings cut.

Let me take you on an adventure now:
Please tell me you are gainfully employed as a janitor. You have no future in the tourism industry.

So to summarize, you got nothing.
Oh, we have everything.

As you just quoted, the Trump name has been signed onto that venture since 2015, long before any of this was done. Like almost everything you post, it is completely vapid and devoid of any logic.

Panic at the Disco. It's time to get the party started. I hear Gitmo is beautiful this time of year. You'll have to be sure to write.

All you did was link me articles that explain the history behind ZTE and explaining current events. None of them shed any light as to why Trump did what he did for such a notorious company, which coincidentally happened right after China invested $500 million into an Indonesian project with the Trump's businesses.
A project which the Chinese have been heavily involved with since the beginning. A project which has dozens of other companies working to develop it. If you are going to push this as extremely suspicious, then let's look back at Uranium One and question why Hillary is not being hung for treason.

Would be interesting if we have more than coincidence on that, wouldn't it? Mueller. Weiner's indictment unsealed. Huma. Fast and Furious. Panic at the Disco.

It's ok if you don't want to talk about ZTE anymore since all you did was deflect and write walls of text that didn't touch upon the corruption. Or you can just admit what Trump is doing is nefarious and corrupt and we can at least be on agreement with something. Pretending like this topic is over only makes you look like a brainwashed Trumpist that ignores anything bad Trump does.
You haven't really proven that Trump has done anything bad. That is the key problem with your position. You are simply saying "Trump did bad thing bad babd baddybadbababababababadfbafaopdfgaoifhjpaeiuhtrgiupASDHvp ujHFENTPDHViup ENGIUSDcvEgSdviUdguS" Then try and create a story out of nothing to prove it.

In address to that story, I explained how there is an ongoing investigation into how North Korea and Iran ended up with technology they are not supposed to have, and that ZTE was part of that. Why would POTUS sanction ZTE and then turn around to un-sanction them? Because China invested in a project where Trump Hotels will also be built? Well, sure, if you're retarded. The rest of us would see the sanctions as a form of leverage to be used to elicit compliance from the Chinese in pursuing those who set ZTE up in North Korea and Iran.

Now that we have what we need, there is no need for the sanctions, and this is not about destroying Chinese businesses or careers.

Have you bothered to understand the meaning of Covfefe? It's yiddish. You idiots actually believe the President is using his twitter account like an average drone. Nothing is said on that account purely for the sake of expressing an emotion or sentiment. Spelling matters.

Isn't it funny, POTUS tries so hard to be KJU's friend. Maybe, some day, that will happen. What book did Rodman give to KJU when he visited?

Do try to keep up.
 

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The irony of this statement is baffling.

You really are a braindead fanatic.
If Trump Hotels were the only thing being built, a prime feature, or this were some kind of key construction bid on Trump's end going on, you might have a point.

However, the reality is that the construction is going to go on, regardless. These are but one of many ongoing projects and the decision by China to begin purchasing U.S. manufactured auto (car) parts, is far more substantial, economically, than this side-show in Indonesia. Further, Trump is no longer the owner of Trump hotels. All of his financial assets have been passed down. One could argue he is making decisions to help the Trump brand - but, again, these decisions are far from exclusive to the Trump brand. The construction projects in Indonesia merely feature a Trump line of hotels among many other hotel lines and many other businesses and industries being constructed, there.

You're basically saying: "Because China invested in this multi-billion dollar venture by multiple economies, Trump is trying to bail out ZTE."

By the way, watch Ohr. She applied for a ham radio license to chit-chat with the Russians and British about the Steele dossier. Why ham radio? Because every cell phone is transparent to the NSA. Of course, the 'tards never heard of echelon, or talent_keyhole, so they thought they were safe.

You people are stupid.
 

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If Trump Hotels were the only thing being built, a prime feature, or this were some kind of key construction bid on Trump's end going on, you might have a point.

However, the reality is that the construction is going to go on, regardless. These are but one of many ongoing projects and the decision by China to begin purchasing U.S. manufactured auto (car) parts, is far more substantial, economically, than this side-show in Indonesia. Further, Trump is no longer the owner of Trump hotels. All of his financial assets have been passed down. One could argue he is making decisions to help the Trump brand - but, again, these decisions are far from exclusive to the Trump brand. The construction projects in Indonesia merely feature a Trump line of hotels among many other hotel lines and many other businesses and industries being constructed, there.

You're basically saying: "Because China invested in this multi-billion dollar venture by multiple economies, Trump is trying to bail out ZTE."

By the way, watch Ohr. She applied for a ham radio license to chit-chat with the Russians and British about the Steele dossier. Why ham radio? Because every cell phone is transparent to the NSA. Of course, the 'tards never heard of echelon, or talent_keyhole, so they thought they were safe.

You people are stupid.
so all pipole are stupid...exept you armc4....ok mr smarta$$!!!!!!...
 

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so all pipole are stupid...exept you armc4....ok mr smarta$$!!!!!!...
No, no - you're about to find out what you and "Lightbringer" are part of.

Everyone get your barf bags ready. NXIVM is just the beginning. Why did the FBI implant spies in Donald Trump's campaign? Why did Allison Mack tweet a picture of Abramovic? Why did Podesta e-mail Hillary about spirit cooking with Abramovic?

It is normal to be so pissed and disgusted during such reveals as to void the contents of your stomach.

I encourage all to consider, very carefully, their allegiances - not to political or religious institutions, but to the values which you hold dear to your hearts. Those values will remain where the institutions have betrayed all of them.
 

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No, no - you're about to find out what you and "Lightbringer" are part of.

Everyone get your barf bags ready. NXIVM is just the beginning. Why did the FBI implant spies in Donald Trump's campaign? Why did Allison Mack tweet a picture of Abramovic? Why did Podesta e-mail Hillary about spirit cooking with Abramovic?

It is normal to be so pissed and disgusted during such reveals as to void the contents of your stomach.

I encourage all to consider, very carefully, their allegiances - not to political or religious institutions, but to the values which you hold dear to your hearts. Those values will remain where the institutions have betrayed all of them.
Wow, you can really make a conspiracy out of everything. Were you one of the people that believed in Pizzagate?
 

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No, no - you're about to find out what you and "Lightbringer" are part of.

Everyone get your barf bags ready. NXIVM is just the beginning. Why did the FBI implant spies in Donald Trump's campaign? Why did Allison Mack tweet a picture of Abramovic? Why did Podesta e-mail Hillary about spirit cooking with Abramovic?

It is normal to be so pissed and disgusted during such reveals as to void the contents of your stomach.

I encourage all to consider, very carefully, their allegiances - not to political or religious institutions, but to the values which you hold dear to your hearts. Those values will remain where the institutions have betrayed all of them.
hey hey dont talk with me like i was in heated debate for long time with you...ok???.


but nvm i'll answer you :

FBI implanted spies is game to fool low IQ pipole like u...they jusr want you to tink that FBI spy even on poresidents...


-alson mock tweeted a pic of abramovic to get lot of views and folowerz like you....


now im going to sleep dont annoy me plz..(dont write me plz..)
 

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Wow, you can really make a conspiracy out of everything. Were you one of the people that believed in Pizzagate?
A bit before my time. I was off researching other issues that end up dovetailing with what is going on.

See, there is a reason I want Peter Munk's head on a platter, and there is a reason I am going to get it. Tuzla Air Base. KLA. Bosnian Ambassador. Al Qaeda monument. Clinton.

Bunch of U.N. guys got their pee-pee smacked for getting involved in *** trafficking over there. Of course, this was all well known by officials and it took quite a bit of effort from some dedicated individuals to get it covered. But there's a particular ring of clubs and hotels run by Munk. Things happen there.

hey hey dont talk with me like i was in heated debate for long time with you...ok???.


but nvm i'll answer you :

FBI implanted spies is game to fool low IQ pipole like u...they jusr want you to tink that FBI spy even on poresidents...


-alson mock tweeted a pic of abramovic to get lot of views and folowerz like you....


now im going to sleep dont annoy me plz..(dont write me plz..)
Why, yes, any time someone talks to you, you must immediately drop what you are doing and react to it. Plug into a wall outlet and you won't have to worry about your battery usage.
 

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A bit before my time. I was off researching other issues that end up dovetailing with what is going on.

See, there is a reason I want Peter Munk's head on a platter, and there is a reason I am going to get it. Tuzla Air Base. KLA. Bosnian Ambassador. Al Qaeda monument. Clinton.

Bunch of U.N. guys got their pee-pee smacked for getting involved in *** trafficking over there. Of course, this was all well known by officials and it took quite a bit of effort from some dedicated individuals to get it covered. But there's a particular ring of clubs and hotels run by Munk. Things happen there.



Why, yes, any time someone talks to you, you must immediately drop what you are doing and react to it. Plug into a wall outlet and you won't have to worry about your battery usage.
u weren't talking, u were just writing wall of bull$hits....now go plug into ur wall of text outlet and say 3 times : i won't worry about battery usage cuz i'm a keyboard warrior, i won't worry about battery usage cuz i'm a keyboard warrior, i won't worry about battery usage cuz i'm a keyboard warrior....then u will achieve quick mental recovery...
 
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